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This makes me so mad.
1 posted on 08/31/2002 5:22:40 PM PDT by Jimbaugh
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To: Jimbaugh
Big mouths will always look for a reason to badmouth a candidate. Of course, I always believed that it was because Simon had not advocated forced conversion camps for homosexuals that had some people here howling.
2 posted on 08/31/2002 5:24:58 PM PDT by Bella_Bru
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To: Jimbaugh; Poohbah
So much for the Reformistas and their busy switchboard.
3 posted on 08/31/2002 5:29:09 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Jimbaugh
Re elect Gov. Gay Davis!
4 posted on 08/31/2002 5:30:07 PM PDT by UbIwerks
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To: Jimbaugh
I think the saddest part of this story was that Rev. Lou Sheldon and his organization was so thrilled and excited to jump on this story and distribute it so fast with their righteously indignant commentary.

With friends like the Agape Press and Lou Sheldon .. who needs enemies ?

12 posted on 08/31/2002 5:48:57 PM PDT by Camber-G
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To: Jimbaugh
Great post. Thanks. I think this says it all. Go Simon!!!!
19 posted on 08/31/2002 6:48:03 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: ElkGroveDan
Ping
21 posted on 08/31/2002 6:48:26 PM PDT by Gophack
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To: Jimbaugh
So vote for Davis.
22 posted on 08/31/2002 6:53:04 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: .38sw; 1 FELLOW FREEPER; 101viking; 1lawlady; 2Fro; 357 SIG; 3_if_by_Treason; 45Auto; 4aardvarks; ..
REALLY IMPORTANT PING
24 posted on 08/31/2002 7:07:53 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: Jimbaugh
Well, I am still disappointed in Bill.

Unless I missed it, none of what has been posted here refutes that Simon supposedly said that

1) As governor he would proclaim a Gay Pride Day

2) That he supports making the Log Cabin Republicans an official GOP group

3) That he supports domestic partners for everyone, not just for gays.

4) That he would not try to change any of the already pro-gay legislation (didn't the rats just pass a gay foster care & adoption bill?)

Obviously, I will still vote for Simon, but this definitely makes him look like he is going to bring us down the same slipperly slope, just a little slower than Davis would. It just tends to soften up pubbies for inevitable gay onslaught.

The whole thing was just so unnecessary. It makes Simon look like just another two-faced politician who will say anything to get elected.

To top it off, it will not likely bring him in a single vote. Those who vote on the gay agenda are certainly not going to vote for Simon when they can have Davis, and it definitely will depress his voter base of support. What idiot is advising him, anyway????

In order to get elected, you have to energize your base. What he did is just the opposite. He's worlds ahead of Davis on every issue, but he was already having problems, and this sure doesn't help him, that's for sure.

32 posted on 08/31/2002 7:49:30 PM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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To: Jimbaugh
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BILL SIMON'S ANSWERS TO THE LOG CABIN REPUBLICANS OF CALIFORNIA QUESTIONNAIRE
Answers Submitted August 20, 2002

1. Governor Jerry Brown, by executive order, prohibited discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation in state employment. Every governor since has left this executive order in place. Will you?

Yes, I would. I believe that the state of California should be a progressive employer and provide protection for workers in case of discrimination. The executive order has worked well.

2. Will your campaign and administration hire gays and lesbians in all three branches of California government, and appoint qualified gays and lesbians to judicial positions, including senior positions?

I am committed to appointing the best people serve in positions high and low in my administration. I do not believe that inquiry into a person's sexual orientation is proper in the process of choosing staff. There are a number of gay and lesbian people in my business, and campaign. My record of including all people is very clear, and it would certainly continue in the Governor's office.

3. Would you support the continued recognition and involvement of gay Republicans in state party activities?

I support the continued recognition and involvement of gay Republicans in state party activities.

4. Would you back a state party charter for the Log Cabin Republican Party of California?

I would back a state party charter for the Log Cabin of California.

5. Log Cabin Republicans of California have been involved in the State Republican party for 25 years. What is your opinion about the good this organization has done in the State Party?

I believe that the Log Cabin Republicans have provided a voice for members of our party who find that the Democratic party does not represent them on a whole range of issues, whether they be the economy, education, personal liberty, or the environment. I am pleased that the Log Cabin Republicans have made substantial contributions to our party.

6. Although already permitted by sate law, are you prepared to endorse the right of gays and lesbians to visit their ill partners in the hospital?

I fully support hospital visitation, and other rights, for domestic partners. I am opposed to workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation.

7. As governor, would you or your appointees to the UC Regents seek to repeal or leave in place the domestic partner employment benefits provided by the UC Regents?

I would leave them in place. The Regents of the University of California have concluded that offering this benefit assists the University in attracting the quality staff it is seeking.

8. Currently the California Public Employees Retirement System (PERS) offers health benefits, including medical, dental and vision insurance, to the domestic partners of eligible state employees. As governor, would you or your appointees to the governing board of PERS leave in place the domestic partner benefits currently offered by the provided through PERS?

Yes, I would. The California Public Employees Retirement System have concluded that offering this benefit is consistent with our history as a progressive employer and provides protection for workers in case of discrimination.

9. What is your position on AIDS funding in an era of severe budget cuts?

I believe that public health is an important function of government. AIDs funding is an important component of that effort. My own personal contributions to AIDs research and prevention indicate my support for funding.

10. Do you support existing state law, as passes by the voters, and the recent State Supreme Court ruling upholding this law, allowing the doctor-prescribed use of marijuana for medical purposes?

I supported the medical marijuana initiative, Proposition 215, when it was on the ballot in November 1996. I know that the federal government is opposed to the measure. As Governor, I would seek to find common ground with the federal government so that we can avoid politicizing this issue and instead rely on medical evidence in implementing the will of the people of California.

11. Currently before the State legislature is AB 1785, which would allow individuals to purchase needles and syringes from a pharmacy without a doctor's prescription. A significant portion of the medical community feel that this is a constructive response to controlling the transference of the HIV virus by the sharing of needles among addicts. What are your views on this legislation?

SB1785 repeals the requirement for a prescription to purchase hypodermic needles or syringes for human use if the purchaser is 18 or older in controlled circumstances. It has passed the State Senate and now is under consideration by the Assembly. It has been amended since its Senate passage, but is still opposed by the California Narcotics Officers Association, California Police Chiefs Association, and the California Peace Officers Association. I understand that this legislation would complement the 1999 legislation that which allows a local jurisdiction to distribute needles or syringes in a syringe exchange program upon declaring a local emergency exists due to a local public health crisis. I know that 44 states currently allow their residents to purchase syringes and needles without a prescription. I am hopeful that the author can resolve the issues with law enforcement.

12. Do you support or oppose company policies that offer workplace domestic partnership benefit programs?

Companies that decide to offer workplace domestic partnership benefit programs are exercising the freedom that employers have in our country to offer incentives to their employees so that the ability of the employer to attract a workforce that maximizes the employer's competitiveness is realized. In today's competitive world, I believe that all employers are well advised to do all that they can to attract employees who can contribute to the goals of the company, without regard to personal attributes or characteristics that are irrelevant to those goals.

13. Does your own company have a domestic partnership benefit program in place? If not, what has you company done to proactively offer you employees domestic partnership benefits?

My company presently does not offer a domestic partnership benefit program simply because there has not been a request for such. I believe our human resources policies are very responsive to the needs of our employees and we would be responsive in this area as well.

14. Do you support existing law on domestic partnerships?

I believe that any two people who fit the qualifications of the law should be able to have their relationship recognized by the state. However, I do not believe that sexual orientation should be a factor in the recognition by the state of such relationships. I would not support undoing any of the rights that currently are available under the law, but I believe those rights should be extended to others as well. In addition, I would be open about adding rights and responsibilities as would be appropriate and justified.

15. Currently before the State Legislature is AB 1080, which if enacted, would prohibit state agencies from entering into contracts with vendors who do not offer benefits to domestic partner employees. In your opinion, is this an appropriate exercise of state government?

There have several issues raised with regard to the bill as it is currently written, including how the state would verify that a bidder did in fact offer the same benefits to employees with registered domestic partners as it did to employees with spouses, the increased potential for litigation if this legislation did result in bids being disqualified, and the increase in contract costs to the state. I support portable health policies so individuals can choose their own coverage.

16. Would you seek to repeal or modify legislation signed by Governor Davis facilitating adoptions by same sex couples?

No, I would not seek to repeal this legislation.

17. Currently before the State Legislature is AB 2651, which establishes training guidelines for foster parents of gay and lesbian youth. In your opinion, is this an appropriate exercise of state government?

While this bill has been amended four times as it has proceeded through the legislative process, it has continued to address the same subject since its introduction. The bill makes explicit the current rights of children and providers in the foster care system relating to sexual orientation and religion. This appears to be a supportable concept; however, I would have to see the final language to be sure that the bill accomplished its goals and did so in a manner that enhanced the foster care system.

18. What is your philosophy about same-sex marriages?

Many people are cynical about those who seek public office, believing that they will say anything to get elected. It is my desire to help restore civility and honesty in the discussion of public policy. I will not say one thing in one situation and another in a different situation just to further my chances to get elected. In the primary campaign I stated that, "marriage is an institution that should remain between one man and one woman." I stand by that statement. However, I do believe that human beings enter into relationships with other human beings and that some of those relationships are deserving of recognition, not as the equivalent to marriage, or as a substitute for marriage, but in order to allow two individuals who have established a strong caring relationship to more fully function within that relationship.

19. Would your administration issue Gay Pride Day proclamations as past administrations have done?

Yes, in June 2003 I will sign a proclamation declaring Gay Pride Day.

20. Please examine your reasons for opposing AB 25?

I would not seek to repeal AB 25. I believe sexual orientation should be removed from the qualification under these provisions so that the benefits could accrue to other couples in a close relationship. As such, I am open to extending further benefits as appropriate and justified.

21. In the past you have said, "the state should not be in the business of trying to classify people or confer rights based on sexual orientation." What does that mean operationally? Would you seek to indo any, or all, current laws that distinguish sexual orientation (for example in employment, housing, health, domestic partnerships, etc.)?

A Simon Administration would strongly enforce laws that make it illegal to discriminate against people in employment, housing and health. I believe that the existing domestic partnership law is explicitly based on sexual orientation. I would prefer that it was not. As a general rule, I think the government should stay out of the business of classifying people based on their sexual orientation. It is a slippery slope that could be problematic in the future. However, I am supportive of the concept of a domestic partnership law, and I would not seek to repeal the current law.

22. SCA 9 is a proposed state constitutional amendment that, along with the current exemption for marriage and certain family members, would exempt people who live together (cohabitants) from higher taxes due to reappraisal of property if their partner has died or has been diagnosed with a terminal disease. Do you join Senators Ross Johnson, Tom McClintock, Bruce McPherson, and Ray Haynes in supporting this amendment?

This Constitutional Amendment would exclude transfers of personal residences from the current definition of purchase or change in ownership when the transfers occur between co-owners and cohabitants who have resided in the home for at least five years prior to the transfer and when the transfer is made because one party dies or is diagnosed with a terminal disease. This appears to be a supportable concept; however, I would have to see the final language to be sure that the measure accomplished its goals.

23. SB 1945 extends the period to file a complaint with FEHA from one year to three years after any hate crime is alleged to have been committer. Do you support such legislation?

This bill has been amended three times. In its current form it extends the one-year deadline for filing a verified complaint with State Department of Fair Employment and Housing alleging violations of the Ralph Civil Rights Act, to a period of time, not to exceed one year form the date the person aggrieved by an alleged violation, becomes aware of the identity of a person liable for the alleged violation, but in no case exceeding three years from the date of the alleged violation. This appears to be a supportable concept; however, I would have to see the final language to be sure that the bill appropriately accomplished its goals.

24. The following is legislation before the state Legislature that establishes legal equality for partners in civil unions/domestic partnerships. Which could you support and why? Which could you not support and why?

AB 2216: Inheritance of jointly owned property in cases where no will
exists:

At one time, this provision was included in AB 25; however, it was deleted at the request of the Governor. I do not have a position at this time.

AB 2777: Allowing county governments to use general county funds to pay spousal-equivalent benefits to a survivor of a county employee who dies:

This bill makes domestic partners of county employees in specified categories eligible for certain death benefits and survivor benefits subject to approval by the board of supervisors of the county. It only applies to Santa Barbara, Los Angeles and Marin Counties, all of which provide retirement benefits under the County Employees' Retirement Law of 1937. I support empowering local government to make their own decisions.

SB 1661: Mandating that private employers provide family disability insurance, either through private insurance or payment to the State Disability fund:

This is a highly controversial measure that creates, within the State Disability Insurance program, a family temporary disability insurance program to provide up to 12 weeks of wage replacement benefits to workers who take time off work to care for a seriously ill child, spouse, parent, domestic partner, or to bond with a new child.

I do not have a position at this time.
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33 posted on 08/31/2002 7:54:06 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: voa-davidk; Rockitz; Jimbaugh; CyberAnt; Saundra Duffy; Poohbah
Hey, voa-davidk, you posted the liberal propaganda on the 28th here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/741082/posts
39 posted on 08/31/2002 8:13:55 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Jimbaugh
I suspected this was the case. A pro-Simon bump for California.
44 posted on 08/31/2002 8:27:04 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Jimbaugh; *calgov2002; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Gophack; eureka!; ElkGroveDan; ...
I second that!

But it did have a funny smell and certainly got a lot of reaction!

The people behind this dirty trick are part of the Manure in Sacramento. It needs to be cleaned out of the State Government. Simon is the man to do it!

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69 posted on 08/31/2002 10:10:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Saundra Duffy
I cannot believe Bill Simon's most prolific campaigner hasn't seen this yet!
I'll tell you one thing, I bet Bill Simon wishes he had a few more thousand Destroyers workin' on his behalf.

For Victory & Freedom!!!

81 posted on 09/01/2002 7:13:18 AM PDT by jla
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To: Jimbaugh
Lessons for Conservatives:

1.) Never jump on your candidate based on stories coming out of the liberal press. Nine times out of ten, they've got it wrong ... on purpose.

2.) Take Ronald Reagan's advice and don't bad-mouth a fellow Republican -- particularly if the DemocRat he's running against is as filthy dirty as Gay Doofus.
101 posted on 09/01/2002 8:51:42 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Jimbaugh
Bill Simon’s strong pro-family position
Sunday, September 01 @ 21:10:51 EDT Politics / Legislation


Over the last week, as many of you know, concerns have been raised over a questionnaire supposedly approved by gubernatorial candidate Bill Simon.

I have spoken with him during this time. The following letter addressed to Senator Ray Haynes, I believe, clarifies Bill Simon’s strong pro-family position.

Please feel free to share this information with your friends, family, church members and co-workers in California and throughout the nation.

Rev. Louis P. Sheldon
Chairman, Traditional Values Coalition



September 1, 2002

Honorable Ray Haynes
California State Senator
State Capitol Building
Sacramento, CA 95814

Dear Ray:

I want to express my appreciation for your recent letter of support. Your friendship and guidance during this campaign has been nothing less than invaluable. I look forward to working closely with you to provide California with the leadership we so desperately need.

I have always tried to be a caring and compassionate person and to understand the differing viewpoints of people from all walks of life. I want to set forth clearly and unambiguously my strongly held pro-family views that have recently been mischaracterized.

I signed the Marriage Protection Pledge on February 6, 2002, and stand by it. That pledge is to protect children by supporting the ideal of marriage, protect the importance and uniqueness of marriage and to uphold the pro-marriage, pro-child spirit of Proposition 22.

In the primary campaign, I stated that "marriage is an institution that should remain between one man and one woman." I stand by that statement. I supported Proposition 22 because I believe that marriage should only be between a man and a woman. Marriage is a special relationship designed to create a loving and caring environment for families to develop and thrive.

I opposed AB 25, which conferred rights based on sexual orientation, and I encouraged Governor Davis to exercise his veto power against it. Unfortunately, he signed it into law. That has been my clear position at all times because I do not believe that other relationships should be elevated to that of marriage. I oppose creating a special class of domestic partnership laws that is defined by sexual orientation or preference.

I do not support a proclamation for Gay Pride Day.

The best family environment for a child is a home with a mother and father. Much of my own personal charitable giving has been in promoting adoptions and working for an environment that helps children to prosper in a loving home. We know that there is a good supply of such homes waiting for children, and we should redouble our efforts to make adoption easier. I want to ensure that every effort is made for the best possible environment for children. Also, I oppose legislation imposing sexual orientation training guidelines for foster parents.

As a state legislator, you have been on the front lines in fighting against the strong, liberal bias in the Assembly and Senate. There are many laws we would like to repeal or change, but as you know, only the legislature can repeal laws. As governor I must focus on achieving real results for Californians, which is what I intend to do.

As governor, I would hire only the most qualified people for each position, as I have in my business.

On the subject of private companies providing workplace domestic partnership benefits, I believe in a free market that corporations can make their own decisions on pay, benefits and working conditions. However, I strongly opposed AB 1080, which would prohibit state agencies from entering into contracts with vendors who do not offer benefits to domestic partner employees. This is another example of government mandates that drive away businesses and cost jobs for our citizens. I support portable health policies so individuals can choose their own coverage.

This letter should clear up any misunderstandings about my positions on the above issues. As a strong pro-family candidate, I took clear stands on these issues during the primary campaign. I will continue to do so, and as governor, I will unequivocally affirm my support for these and other major issues that concern the people of California.

Sincerely,

William E. Simon Jr.


 

106 posted on 09/02/2002 11:16:16 AM PDT by Jimbaugh
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