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This was printed at allamericangold.com back at the end of June, so it's no longer there. You'll just have to take my word for it! I just never got around to putting it up here, but I had some time so I thought I would do it now, if only for Grandpa Dave! This was printed before the terrible Oregon fires. I have traveled extensively in Oregon and have seen parts of the Kalmiopsis Wilderness area and the area around the Rogue River. Now I must also quietly say goodbye to them. They were exquisite.
1 posted on 08/31/2002 8:06:16 PM PDT by Justanumba
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To: Justanumba; Grampa Dave
"if only for Grandpa Dave!"

Well, then, why didn'tcha ping ol Grampa Rampa Dave already??? Yer slippin!(grin)

2 posted on 08/31/2002 8:31:21 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: Justanumba
They were lost due to the efforts of "greenies"...

I used to go to a couple of Boy Scout Camps, Pouch and Alpine, and now I think they were just using us to claer deadfall...

but then again they never burned, because a forest needs air and spave just like a kid that was ... nevermind!!

4 posted on 08/31/2002 8:49:23 PM PDT by Nitro
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To: Justanumba
Lost forests
Lost recreational opportunities
Lost wildlife
Lost lumber & paper products
Lost jobs
Lost exports to balance our trade deficit
Lost biomass to soak up CO2
Lost homes
Lost lives

Just some of the costs of radical environmentalism.

8 posted on 08/31/2002 8:54:24 PM PDT by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: Justanumba; Grampa Dave; Archie Bunker on steroids
Too late. Many of "my places" are gone and still burning tonight. Where I followed my dad around at 5 years of age.... Where my kids and I camped. .... The beautiful canopy of trees when I was 18 and...nevermind :<).

Just believe me, So. Oregon is a burned up mess and I've finally gotten the "lung and nose thing" going from over a month of smoke and ash and it all just in general ticks me off! Thanks for the article, Justanumba, good to see you!

36 posted on 08/31/2002 10:28:08 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: Justanumba
Earlier this evening I was reading last weeks Barrons and they had a article on the fires in the west and how it will depress second home values as it has in the past. We are no longer being effected by the smoke from the Biscuit Fire here in Eureka but we still have at least a month or more to worry about fire danger in the West.
42 posted on 08/31/2002 10:52:31 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Libertarianize the GOP; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Stand Watch Listen; freefly; expose; ...
Ping for Oregon and Arizona Blackened Acres.
500,000+ each.
43 posted on 09/01/2002 4:10:30 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Justanumba; madfly
ping for private property and capitalism!
45 posted on 09/01/2002 5:30:29 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: Justanumba
Great article.

Thanks to the insane enviral whackos, a so called good fire by their definition, a lightening fire struck in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness.

The Floristry Circus Klowns (not the fire fighters), forced the fire fighters to stay out of the wilderness as the good fires raged inside of the Kalmiopsis Wilderness. The fire fighters could only act when the two fires at that time, the Florence Fire and the Biscuit Fire threatened to consume the two Oregone up in smoke counties around the Kalmiopsis Wilderness.

Now that fire has consumed over 500,000 acres. The lesbo PR division of the Floristry Circus Klowns have down graded the size of the fire a few acres below 500,000 as another PR lie.

My grandchildren, age 18 months and 3 years old, even if they live to be 100, will probably never seen anything of real beauty in the Former Kalmiopsis Wilderness. That is the legacy of the Mentally Insane Green Jihadists in Oregon and their good fire agendas.

This excellent thread of yours, shows that this Burn Baby Burn insanity of the Mentally Insane Green Jihadists agendas in out of the Floristry Circus has contributed to fires like the Biscuit Fire for over 10 years.

Time to remove these criminally insane Green Jihadists from their illegal power and start locking them up with other serial killers in our prisons.
47 posted on 09/01/2002 6:30:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Justanumba; All
It appears that more than a few of the local folks are aware of the Forest Service's let it burn policy. I missed the original article but the letter to the editor caught my eye.

Letter to the Editor, Curry Coastal Pilot, August 31
"Editor: Your story on the Pistol River fire meeting (Aug. 21) alluded to "heated comments." They didn't come from anyone fighting the fire. Though with being called "incompetent, you don't know how to fight a wild fire, loggers could do a better job, you shouldn't be making minimum wage," I was amazed at their restraint." (snip)
"This isn't the biggest wildfire we've ever had in Oregon and it won't be out last. Let's hope they'll want to come back, when we need them."

The article:
FIRE MANAGERS CONFIDENT THEY WILL 'LASSO' FIRE
Published: August 21, 2002
By Charles Kocher
Pilot Publisher

PISTOL RIVER - Managers of the massive effort on the western flanks of the Biscuit Fire expressed confidence Tuesday night that they are about to "close the lasso" around the wildfire very soon.

But some residents of the Pistol River area, where the last fire lines are closing together, told officials they are worried about the east winds predicted for later this week.

"We're confident," said Steve Fry, incident team commander for the southwestern corner of the Biscuit Fire, "but it's going to take some time and we're very patient."

"We're looking fairly optimistic," agreed Scott Vale, incident commander on the northwest corner of the fire. "The good thing is we're aggressive about reducing the area where a fire could come out (of the contingency lines.) We could pick up any spillover rather quickly."

Some in the crowd questioned whether the fire management has been too patient and might lose a battle if the predicted east winds do push the fire out of their control.

"You've squandered five days of good weather," one man complained about the waiting game along the fire line in the East Fork of Pistol River. "You don't have a prayer of holding it in an east wind." (snip)
53 posted on 09/01/2002 7:43:11 AM PDT by Granof8
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