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Newsweek gives three historians print space so they can bash Bush about 9/11 (my title)
PRnewswire ^ | 9/1/02

Posted on 09/01/2002 7:42:31 AM PDT by Brian Mosely

Newsweek Interview: 'One of the Things I'm Most Disturbed By Since the Attacks Is the Tame Acceptance of the Idea That the Decision for War or Peace is President Bush's To Make By Himself,' Says Historian Schlesinger
September 11 'Will Take Its Place Along With Pearl Harbor, Which Is to Say It Will Be Very Vivid in the Memory,' Says Appleby
Sunday September 1, 10:06 am ET

NEW YORK, Sept. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- To assess the significance of September 11, Newsweek convened a round-table discussion with some of America's most distinguished historians: Joyce Appleby, a former president of the American Historical Association; Michael Beschloss, the presidential historian; Alan Brinkley, a professor at Columbia University; David Levering Lewis, the Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer of W.E.B. DuBois, and Arthur Schlesinger Jr., former special assistant to President John F. Kennedy. In the September 9 issue (on newsstands Monday, September 2) they discuss how 9-11 will be remembered in history, possible parallels with the cold war, and public appetite for nation-building. Some excerpts:



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1 posted on 09/01/2002 7:42:31 AM PDT by Brian Mosely
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To: Brian Mosely
>>One of the Things I'm Most Disturbed By Since the Attacks Is the Tame Acceptance of the Idea That the Decision for War or Peace is President Bush's To Make By Himself<<

This bothers me, as well.

Doesn't it bother you?

2 posted on 09/01/2002 7:44:26 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
One of the Things I'm Most Disturbed By Since the Attacks Is the Tame Acceptance of the Idea That the Decision for War or Peace is President Bush's To Make By Himself

This bothers me, as well. Doesn't it bother you?

On September 14th, 2001, Congress gave Bush complete authority to deal with the attackers and their ilk as he saw fit, so no, I don't have a problem with it.

I do have a problem with the unelected media looking down their snoots presupposing that somehow their knowledge and judgment superior to the President's.

It's the 'Bush is stupid' argument, and that bothers me.

3 posted on 09/01/2002 7:50:42 AM PDT by IncPen
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To: Brian Mosely; All
Boy, we've got 9-11 Bush hit pieces coming from all sides this week! The media paints the President as incompetent once again...I have been emailing these idiots all morning and hope other freepers will do the same. I also think that when the President comes out and makes his case to the American people, the journalists will look like fools once again.

My fellow freepers, many of these hit pieces on FR today are filled with "aides close to the President", unamed sources and "those that wish to remain anonymous"...it is my fondest wish that freepers will bury the media in email demanding that they name names and go back to the having two named sources. We can put a stop to this crap if we bury them in protest. It is not enough to merely carp on this web site.

4 posted on 09/01/2002 7:51:40 AM PDT by Wait4Truth
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To: IncPen
I am bothered by that, as well.

But Bush won't always be President. A person who can depose foreign leaders by his command alone, using our military forces without a Declaration of war, is an emperor.

The fact that it is Bush vs. Hussein makes the consequences of this deviation from the architecture of a Republic minimal in this case.

When Hillary is President, you may feel differently about it.

5 posted on 09/01/2002 7:55:09 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Wait4Truth
No doubt...remember that report earlier this week where it said that Bush signed off on Cheney's speech in Nashville about Iraq...well...looky here...

Newsweek: White House Distances Itself From Cheney Comment On Iraq: 'A Return Of [U.N.] Inspectors Would Provide No Assurance Whatsoever' of Saddam's Compliance With UN Resolutions
Card Says Specific Language Was Not Ordered By Bush; Veep Didn't Check His Iraq Facts With the CIA; State Department Never Saw the Final Text
Sunday September 1, 10:50 am ET

NEW YORK, Sept. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- When Vice President Dick Cheney gave a speech last week on the need to remove Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein from power and said that "a return of [U.N.] inspectors would provide no assurance whatsoever" of Saddam's compliance with U.N. resolutions, he took the White House by surprise, Newsweek reports in the September 9 issue (on newsstands Monday, September 2). Chief Political Correspondent Howard Fineman reports that President George W. Bush hadn't told him to say it.

6 posted on 09/01/2002 7:59:10 AM PDT by Brian Mosely
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To: Jim Noble
But Bush won't always be President. A person who can depose foreign leaders by his command alone, using our military forces without a Declaration of war, is an emperor.

That's how many of us felt about Clinton - remember the attack on the Sudan the night before Monica's Grand Jury testimony? Do you recall Denny Hastert saying in the days following that attack, "It's like he lobbed those missiles in there and then sent over the check. We had no idea it was going to happen"

The fact that Bush has his 'mandate' is proof of the difference between the two men. The point is he already has Congressional approval; he's not acting of his own volition. 600 legislators have said, "You have our consent".

When Hillary is President, you may feel differently about it.

I hope she is never President, that's for sure. If she acts with impunity, I'll feel different. If she acts with the advice and consent of Congress, I'll hold my nose and go along.

7 posted on 09/01/2002 8:10:07 AM PDT by IncPen
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To: Brian Mosely
It would nice to be able to revist what these amgazines were saying just prior to the Gulf War
8 posted on 09/01/2002 8:31:54 AM PDT by uncbob
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Time, Newsweek, and other similar mags were my news sources in the early/mid 80's; although they have a leftist slant, I could read between the lines, as most conservatives had to in those days. Thank G-d for the internet. Now we have other sources to rely upon. I don't know anyone who reads those mags anymore. I fact, I used to see these in doctor's offices; now, I never see them there, just women's mags and other non-news rags. At this rate, maybe one or more of these mags will go out of business. With the internet, even leftists no longer need these.....
9 posted on 09/01/2002 9:45:46 AM PDT by Malcolm
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To: Jim Noble
He already has"permission"to wage war against our enemies.On September 14,2001,a joint session of Gongress gave him a very wide latitude including first-strike!Mr.Brinkley seems to still be laboring over The LiboCrites PROPOGANDA that "W" is STUPID!!!
10 posted on 09/01/2002 10:15:36 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: IncPen
RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11 posted on 09/01/2002 10:16:14 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: Jim Noble
So, do we wait until it's too late? Until, as I saw on another site this morning, "half of Chicago lies in smoldering ruin" or "millions of our fellow citizens lie dying in agony?"

The Bible says, "Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof" or as Grandma used to say, "Don't borrow trouble." Our survival depends on taking out terrorists before they take us out. If we don't do that, none of these fears about future hitleries will matter. They say making sausage ain't pretty. Sorry, no Marquess of Queensbury Rules in this one.

12 posted on 09/01/2002 10:39:10 AM PDT by Let's Roll
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Brian... on another thread I brought up the definition of the word "antinomianism".

The gist of Antinomianism is that there are those who rise above the 'rules' that govern the unwashed masses and thus are immune to such petty things as ethics, morality or social norms.

This was the purview of the Clintons and their ilk (Streisand comes to mind).

It's also the basis of the "Bush is too stupid to be President" (or Nixon, or Ford, Or Reagan, or Quayle or Bush 41).

You must understand this concept to fully appreciate the bankruptcy of liberalism.
13 posted on 09/01/2002 10:47:08 AM PDT by IncPen
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To: Brian Mosely
Another "historian," Doris Kearns and LBJ mistress was resurrected by MSNBC for her "insights." I thought she was through, but apparently not. Anyway, I haven't seen Deshowitz in ages and I hope I won't. Maybe his negative numbers finally scared the networks. Or have I just been lucky in missing him?
14 posted on 09/01/2002 10:54:20 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: IncPen
I notice there is no quote from Michael Beschloss,wonder why?
Could it be because what he said didn't fall under the
catagory of "Bushbeating".

Also notice that Doris wasn't invited. Tsk, tsk.
15 posted on 09/01/2002 10:56:07 AM PDT by tet68
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To: Brian Mosely
What I want to know is if these three "unbiased" historians signed that petition against Clinton's impeachment. Anybody know the answer to that?
16 posted on 09/01/2002 11:34:36 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Schlesinger and Brinkley both did.They are both partisan hacks, and Art will do anything to polish the image of Camelot.
17 posted on 09/01/2002 11:44:19 AM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Let's Roll
>>So, do we wait until it's too late? <<

No, we don't.

I don't condemn W for acting to protect us, but I do condemn the parliament of whores that Congress has become for abdicating their power and their responsibility to every President since 1941.

18 posted on 09/01/2002 1:59:55 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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