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California: Body found near origin of fire - Chopper crashes while fighting blaze; pilot OK
Victor Valley Daily Press ^ | Sept 2,2002 | SCOTT VANHORNE/Staff Writer

Posted on 09/02/2002 8:40:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

LYTLE CREEK — Arson investigators found a man’s charred body near the start of a 350-acre wildfire while a helicopter pilot battling the blaze crashed into a dry creek Friday morning.

Firefighters had the Lytle Fire 10 percent contained by late Friday afternoon and estimated they would have it completely contained by Tuesday. Fighting the fire were 582 firefighters, 25 engines and five helicopters.

The fire remained about four miles southeast of Wrightwood in the Lytle Creek Canyon. The fire was threatening the Mount Baldy Ski area and the Cucagmonga and Sheep Mountain wilderness areas, according to Karen McKinley, fire information officer for the U.S. Forest Service.

The odd twists to the wildfire began about 6:15 a.m. when San Bernardino County Sheriff’s arson investigators found a burned body near where the blaze stared about 5:35 p.m. Thursday in Lytle Creek.

They suspect the man was a 70-year-old Chino Hills resident, but the body was so badly burned they must check dental records to confirm his identity, coroner’s officials said.

Investigators don’t know if the man’s death or a vehicle found nearby are related to the fire. They also haven’t concluded what ignited the blaze.

About 10:15 a.m., a water-dropping helicopter crashed into a dry creek near Green Mountain Ranch on Lytle Creek Road.

The pilot was able to land the helicopter upright, but some of the rotor blades broke in the crash, said Raymond Gomez, who saw the helicopter go down.

“You could almost hear the turbine bogging down,” he said. “Once he started coming down, he came down really quick.”

U.S. Forest Service Fire Information Officer Karen McKinley said hydraulic problems may have caused the helicopter to go down.

The pilot walked away from the crash uninjured.

The Forest Service grounded all aircraft battling the fire for a short time after the crash, but four airtankers and five helicopters were back at work by Friday afternoon.

Before the helicopter crashed, a water tender — a fire vehicle that hauls water — spilled gasoline, prompting a hazardous materials incident in the burned area, Forest Service Spokeswoman Ruth Wenstrom said.

It was unclear what caused the fuel spill, she said.

“It is unusual for this many things to be going on during a fire,” Wenstrom said.

The fire burned in an unpopulated area among heavy timber and steep terrain as ashes from the blaze rained down on West Cajon Valley.

“We don’t have any evacuations or any structures threatened at this time,” McKinley said.

McKinley said firefighters hoped to stop the fire’s northward progression at Stockton Flat Road, a dirt road that cuts through the forest.

McKinley said it’s impossible to say if the wildfire will affect tourism in the San Bernardino National Forest this Labor Day weekend.

“A lot of times smoke doesn’t keep people away,” she said.

Scott Vanhorne can be reached at scott_vanhorne@link.freedom.com or at 951-6276.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; fires
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1 posted on 09/02/2002 8:40:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So, this body they found - was it a guy in scuba gear?
2 posted on 09/02/2002 8:49:12 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I would doubt it!
3 posted on 09/02/2002 8:54:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Libertarianize the GOP; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Stand Watch Listen; freefly; expose; ...
ping
4 posted on 09/02/2002 8:59:44 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Chad Fairbanks
So, this body they found - was it a guy in scuba gear?

Damn, beat me to it. :)

5 posted on 09/02/2002 9:03:57 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Maybe it was spontaneous combustion??
6 posted on 09/02/2002 9:04:19 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Timesink
heh heh heh ;0)
7 posted on 09/02/2002 9:09:12 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Maybe it was spontaneous combustion??
8 posted on 09/02/2002 9:09:54 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Oops... perhaps an environ-mental whacko loaded up on soy and full of methane?
9 posted on 09/02/2002 9:10:31 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; madfly
This has been our hottest fire season yet. I'm not surprised to hear of many accidents. Fighting fires in a season like this one takes a heavy toll on the firefighters and equipment. I'm glad the pilot wasn't hurt.
10 posted on 09/02/2002 9:30:47 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: madfly
Thanks for the heads up!
11 posted on 09/02/2002 9:53:14 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Chad Fairbanks
My first thought!
12 posted on 09/02/2002 9:55:55 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It'll be interesting to hear what the cause of death was.

There's been too many fires for this season to be in any way normal, and we know that some of them have been set. Suppose this guy caught an arsonist red-handed.....

13 posted on 09/02/2002 10:00:22 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It sounds like someone was trying to cover a murder up.
14 posted on 09/02/2002 10:10:28 AM PDT by Aquamarine
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To: Aquamarine
That was my thought!

Or he might have caught the arsonist in the act!
15 posted on 09/02/2002 10:51:28 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
sorry for that junky post
18 posted on 09/02/2002 12:20:21 PM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Thanks! From the usfs website:

NEW - Curve (Angeles National Forest): 10,000 acres at 0 percent contained. This fire is 30 miles north
of Asuza. Extreme fire behavior with flame lengths of 100 feet was observed in mixed conifer forest and
heavy brush. Structure protection is in place for 200 residences and campers in the Coldbrook, Crystal
Lake and East Fort Road were evacuated. Two residences were destroyed.
19 posted on 09/02/2002 12:51:33 PM PDT by gc4nra
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We just might have an Auto-Darwining here ...
20 posted on 09/02/2002 12:55:39 PM PDT by strela
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