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1 posted on 09/06/2002 7:14:41 AM PDT by A. Pole
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I don't know - I think woman CAN be just as aggressive as men with domestic violence ( I know a lot of women who have whacked their men - I had an acqaintance once who stabbed her husband in the shoulder with a fork at a family dinner - amazing.)

But I do think when a man beats up a woman, for sheer physical strength he is a lot more likely to do a greater amount of damage. And the previous is the only serious injury from woman to man I personally ever heard of, while I know quite a few women who were badly beaten by their husbands, and a few had to leave to save their lives.

2 posted on 09/06/2002 7:56:27 AM PDT by I still care
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...lobbied key legislators to stop the research

There should be no social research that should be blocked. This just shows that the people pushing blocking research know that what they've been advocating is a lie.

Now, public funding for social agenda based research should be thoroughly curtailed. But privately funded research should also not be interfered with by the force of law.

4 posted on 09/06/2002 8:14:33 AM PDT by MrB
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The conference attendees will include a spectrum of the domestic violence industry, such as social workers, psychologists, nurses, military personnel, attorneys, law enforcement, researchers, advocates, marriage & family therapists, policy-makers, physicians, shelter & crisis center staff, survivors, etc.

Here is the part that most people miss. This isn't just bad legislation, IT'S AN INDUSTRY! Look at all of the people who make a living by things like this being perpetuated. The one's who are not government employees usually operate either with federal funding or are funded by some person or group that congress or the courts have ordered to pay for it. Riddle me this...excluding the military, what part of the federal government has ever had it's headcount or funding (in real dollars, not fuzzy math) reduced? I can't think of any. For instance, take the "family courts." Look at all of the public and private sector jobs that depend on the misery of caused by divorce and bitter custody battles. They should be more appropriately named the "anti-family courts" since they almost always destroy any families that come in contact with them.

It is NEVER reall about helping people...it's about to things...money and control. Take those two items out of the equation and all of the so-called caring people in the industry will go find something else to do for a living.

5 posted on 09/06/2002 8:35:15 AM PDT by Orangedog
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To: RogerFGay
Thought this would amuse you.
8 posted on 09/06/2002 8:49:15 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: A. Pole
It's really not groundbreaking. If one goes beyond headlines, sound bites, and slogans to actually explore the dynamics of domestic battery, most reasoned studies show it's not at all Woman=good man=bad. There are numerous identified "relationship patterns" that result in violence- the controlling, abusive dominant male is just one. There's also "situational" batterers, who hit only when drunk, there's "assentive" batterers, co-combatants who think hitting is OK if it's "within the rules" e.g, no hitting from behind, no hitting with objects, (Think O.J. and Nichole), there's batterers who believe it's OK to damage property but not people, many different patterns that make it more likely that certain people will start hitting. The "cycle of abuse" concept is not universal to all battery situations.

More to the point is the clear misuse of the entire process- perfectly safe litigants who misuse DVRO's for stategic advantage- he can't very well keep the stuff in the house if he can't get in! tee hee. And THAT is abuse.

11 posted on 09/06/2002 10:42:31 AM PDT by frodolives
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What do you tell a woman with 2 black eyes??? Nothing, you've told her twice already.
20 posted on 09/09/2002 5:29:12 AM PDT by Puppage
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Bookmark.
22 posted on 09/09/2002 6:04:45 AM PDT by copycat
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