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The nation's tolerance is being carried too far (Where's The ANGER?)
New York Daily News ^ | 9/09/02 | John Leo

Posted on 09/09/2002 2:26:06 AM PDT by kattracks

Sociologist Amitai Etzioni sees one thing missing in all the polling data on American attitudes in the aftermath of Sept. 11 - anger.

Last week, Etzioni's Communitarian Network issued the report "American Society in the Age of Terrorism," an analysis of post-Sept. 11 polling. Unsurprisingly, the report finds more interest in family, spirituality and volunteerism and more trust in government, though "all these effects have begun to recede, and are predicted to decline further if no new attacks occur."

But "there can be little doubt that, by and large, the American people were decidedly low-key in their expressions of anger at those who attacked us" - a very unusual response to a mass slaughter, Etzioni says.

Why so little anger?

"It looks as though Alan Wolfe was right," Etzioni said. His reference is to Boston College sociologist Alan Wolfe, who wrote in his books "One Nation, After All" (1997) and "Moral Freedom" (2001) that nonjudgmentalism is not just an ethic confined to the media and other elites, it has become normal middle-class morality. He found that Americans are morally tentative and very reluctant to criticize others.

This makes the nation far more tolerant, but also constructs a laissez-faire morality - a presumption that even destructive acts deserve understanding rather than judgment.

The good side of this new ethic is that the nation refused to scapegoat Muslim-Americans for the Sept. 11 attacks. The bad side is that to avoid anger and judgment, a normal emotional response was diverted into an orgy of self-examination, much of it revolving around the notion that the U.S. somehow invited or deserved the attacks.

There is also a downside in the nation's overwhelmingly positive treatment of Muslim-Americans. Perhaps out of guilt over treatment of Japanese-Americans during World War II, the U.S. and its media have framed attitudes almost wholly in terms of hypertolerance and bias, rarely in terms of what allegiance a minority owes the rest of the nation in time of peril.

The Associated Press reported last week that violence against Muslim-Americans seems to have slowed to a trickle. But it was never more than a trickle in the first place.

The same is true of nonviolent acts of bias. The New Jersey Law Journal calmly analyzed the evidence in June and concluded that anti-Muslim acts are notably rare and statistically insignificant. It quoted an anti-discrimination lawyer saying that in terms of anti-Muslim bias, "basically we're not seeing anything."

Our elite press is ever alert to sniff out bias, but issues of allegiance and obligation get much less play. Some American mosques and Muslim schools are indeed troublesome places. The first plot to topple the World Trade Center was hatched at a Jersey City mosque. Does the nation have a right to expect that Muslim-Americans will report any such activity they happen to observe? Or that they will refrain from supporting foundations that subsidize terrorism?

We need a serious discussion about loyalty and assimilation. What we are likely to get, though, is yet another massive cloud of hands-off nonjudgmentalism.



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1 posted on 09/09/2002 2:26:06 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
We need a serious discussion about loyalty and assimilation

Bingo.

2 posted on 09/09/2002 2:32:06 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm
BUMP
3 posted on 09/09/2002 2:36:37 AM PDT by weegee
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To: sarcasm
Don't worry, be happy.
4 posted on 09/09/2002 2:38:38 AM PDT by AlligatorEyes
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To: kattracks
It's not politicaly correct.

If you get angry because someone murders your brethren, you need counciling.

5 posted on 09/09/2002 2:40:42 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: sarcasm
Is it allowed to obtain United States Citizenship so that travelling for deen becomes easier?

They require you to promise to bear arms for the country. The oath of allegiance is as follows: The Oath of Allegiance I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. If they require or ask you to bear arms against a muslim country, what should be the response. Their laws are against 4 marraige law of Islaam. Does the pledge cause any "Ilhaad" or any such anti-islamic view? Please answer according to Hanafi Fiqh.

Answer 5193

1. If your intention is solely to facilitate easier travel, you are permitted to obtain US citizenship. Although the oath of allegiance is un-Islamic in nature, it will not be treated as an 'Islamic oath'. Therefore, you are not compelled to execute the oath.
2. If you are called up to bear arms against Muslims, you are not permitted to do so by Islamic law.
3. The pledge does not constitute Ilhaad.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Muhammad Kadwa
FATWA DEPT.

CHECKED AND APPROVED CORRECT: Mufti Ebrahim Desai


6 posted on 09/09/2002 2:40:52 AM PDT by weegee
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To: exnavy
I'm getting angrier and angrier every day. What's wrong with me?
7 posted on 09/09/2002 2:42:06 AM PDT by thegreatbeast
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To: sarcasm
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8 posted on 09/09/2002 2:43:33 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: kattracks
I think a lot of people have been looking for a way to say this. Kudos to John Leo for finding all the words.
9 posted on 09/09/2002 2:45:18 AM PDT by Glenn
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To: weegee
Thanks much for that post about Muslim deception. These #$@*^% are decievers from the get go. They feel they owe the truth to no one except Muslims and even then they decieve (and kill) their Muslim "brothers" too.
10 posted on 09/09/2002 2:47:46 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: kattracks
No one polled ME. I'm still angry.

No appeaser, peacenik, Muslim apologist or Euroweenie better get near me Wednesday.

11 posted on 09/09/2002 3:04:05 AM PDT by petuniasevan
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To: kattracks
The American people have the attention span of a gnat.

Carolyn

12 posted on 09/09/2002 3:04:30 AM PDT by CDHart
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To: thegreatbeast
You're alive, awake and aware, that's all.
13 posted on 09/09/2002 3:06:02 AM PDT by petuniasevan
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To: CDHart
They wuz eddicatid in the publik skoolz!
14 posted on 09/09/2002 3:06:54 AM PDT by petuniasevan
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To: kattracks
Maybe issue a "Mind-Numbed Robot Alert!" There is no question that either a) mainstream Americans are pussies b) The media controls their thinking oc c) both a & b
15 posted on 09/09/2002 3:16:54 AM PDT by gr8eman
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To: thegreatbeast
I'm getting angrier and angrier every day. What's wrong with me?

Nothing, but you knew that already.

They had some psychologist on the news last night, talking about the emotions you might have on the anniversary of 9/11, and how to cope with them. I commented to my wife, "I have two feelings, anger and desire - desire for retribution."

I'm ready to see some serious retribution, soon. I'm not alone in this.

16 posted on 09/09/2002 3:18:12 AM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: kattracks
Many Americans have a seething rage that is supressed, but it still exists.

Unresolved anger is dangerous. It can build and will "act out" in unexpected ways.

That is one problem with the way our leadership has "encouraged" us to "deal" with the murderous atrocities--go on about your business. No, that was a mistake. We needed to see the bodies of those who jumped from the heights of the Twin Towers, followed by seeing the battles and exploding bombs, and dead bodies of Taliban/al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. We needed to see -- but we haven't seem much. So the seething rage remains, smolders under the surface. Another major attack on US soil might break the dam of rage. It is difficult to say. But the rage exists, though suppressed; and it will eventually surface.
17 posted on 09/09/2002 3:37:12 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
BOOKMARKED
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18 posted on 09/09/2002 4:04:54 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: TomGuy
"Many Americans have a seething rage that is supressed, but it still exists"
I've thought the same for some time now. As much as I hate to say iy, it's going to take another attack before most will let it out. At that time I wouldn't want to be a Muslim in this country...not that I'd want to be one in any country
19 posted on 09/09/2002 4:16:11 AM PDT by Far Right Of Left
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To: kattracks
laissez-faire morality - a presumption that even destructive acts deserve understanding rather than judgment.

And knee-jerk defensiveness.
Judgement is the 50c word for 'survival instinct'.

It has been beaten out of us as a society by Political correctness and multiculturalism.

Me? I still believe in profiling and discrimination.
Everyone is not equal and being judgemental is an essential part of a (long and) healthy life.

20 posted on 09/09/2002 4:22:48 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
Me? I still believe in profiling and discrimination.
Everyone is not equal and being judgemental is an essential part of a (long and) healthy life.


Well !!!!! Another week of sensitivity training for you!!!!

LOL

It is strange--how multiculturalism and sensitivity have actually caused desensitizing of the American people. Sort of a reverse, but intended, result, I'm sure.
21 posted on 09/09/2002 4:29:32 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: kattracks
calmly analyzed the evidence in June and concluded that anti-Muslim acts are notably rare and statistically insignificant. It quoted an anti-discrimination lawyer saying that in terms of anti-Muslim bias, "basically we're not seeing anything."

But any resistance or reaction is "too much" from the invaders' point of view.
They prefer to keep their ideological and physical weapons factories humming deep inside our society unhindered.

Hence the constant stream of complaints.

If I can tell you're a muslim, you better keep your distance.
And no, I don't mean if I imagine you're a muslim. I mean if you are an "in your face" muslim in my country, you better be prepared for a hostile reception from me.

22 posted on 09/09/2002 4:33:11 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: kattracks
Some people have TV, sports, and their booze & chips to help keep them quiet. And if they do speak out, there is the thought police telling them about hate crimes and forcing them to appologize for anything from giving someone a watermelon to the use of the word "niggardly." Yes, the teacher who taught that innocent word was forced to apologize.

Thus, it's no surprise that some people are frightened into silence. Surely expressing anger might cause them to lose their jobs or to be sue and lose their saving since even minor coments cause an uproar. Think Johnny Rocker. He was set up as an example.

As for me, I'm angry at the terrorists. At others also. I even hate greedy people who keep filing trivial lawsuits.

23 posted on 09/09/2002 4:33:12 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: kattracks
40 years of ever expanding political correctness and guilt has destroyed us as a country, along with western Europe. Nobody believes in targeting people just because they're muslims, but we've got to start getting a handle on who's coming into this country, why they're coming and most importantly, WHEN ARE THEY LEAVING. We have so many so-called leaders (sadly many of them Republicans) who are more worried about being "intolerent" than about our national security.

Just for comparison sake, look at the reaction to Pearl Harbor compared to the WTC reaction. I really dispair for our future.

24 posted on 09/09/2002 4:44:26 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: kattracks
Unsurprisingly, the report finds more interest in family, spirituality and volunteerism and more trust in government

This is sickening. The federal government's open-door policy allowed terrorists to wander freely within our country and murder thousands resulting in the people having MORE trust in government? Airport security in the United States has turned to frisking little old ladies in wheelchairs and the people have MORE trust in government?

25 posted on 09/09/2002 5:00:13 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: kattracks
The amazing thing is that the world looks at us as racist warmongers.
26 posted on 09/09/2002 5:21:03 AM PDT by Jhensy
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To: kattracks
This is actually a good thing. When you suppress anger the emotion becomes more intense when it finally does rise to the surface. Look out Muslims!
27 posted on 09/09/2002 5:23:24 AM PDT by The Scorpion King
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To: kattracks
His reference is to Boston College sociologist Alan Wolfe, who wrote in his books "One Nation, After All" (1997) and "Moral Freedom" (2001) that nonjudgmentalism is not just an ethic confined to the media and other elites, it has become normal middle-class morality. He found that Americans are morally tentative and very reluctant to criticize others.

Absolutely! Damn the government schools to hell.

I said it then and I'll say it again: it will take two or more 9/11's to shake off this moral malaise.

28 posted on 09/09/2002 5:24:14 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: petuniasevan
No one polled me either, and probably for the best. My reaction at the time was "Nuke Mecca."

My reaction now is "Nuke Mecca, Medina, Baghdad, Riyadh, Cairo, and use daisy cutters on Gaza, the West Bank, and Paris." Or better yet, build a wall encircling everything from Algeria to India, running just under Turkey (they're on probation) and then fill it with water.

29 posted on 09/09/2002 5:30:02 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: The Scorpion King
This is actually a good thing. When you suppress anger the emotion becomes more intense when it finally does rise to the surface.

Spoken like a true Scorpio!

30 posted on 09/09/2002 5:34:05 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: kattracks
i'll be attending the memorial service in Shanksville on wednesday morning.
photo essay will follow sometime wednesday night/thursday morning.

should self-preservation be one of their priorities (oh please, let it not be so :-),
this would be a good area for the appeasers and rag-lovers to avoid this week.
solid red, and very pro 2A (not to mention Louisville Slugger) territory.

'course, the pussies never have spent much time out this way, dammit ...   

31 posted on 09/09/2002 5:55:49 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: A_perfect_lady
As mentioned, this September 11th will be very eery, something hardly imagineable on December 7, 1942.

That is, the commemorations, the school programs, the 'interfaith services' in most Freepers' hometowns over there, the nonstop TV programming, that we will all witness across the US and in Embassies around the world, will be devoid of one important factor (or reference to it).

THAT THERE WAS AND IS AN ENEMY.

The fact there was an enemy in the first place brought all of this ENEMY still is that we risk another attack, maybe in a fashion we would never imagine in our worst nightmare.

The American people have been psychologically de-balled. When you have no common thought against the ENEMY and a unified feeling of hatred at them and their attacks with an equally strong thirsty resolve to totally destroy them, you will NEVER win the war.

This is very discouraging but for sure it is very prevalent in the US now, even just one year shy of the attacks. The psyche of America has changed.

Thank you Oprah Winfrey.

32 posted on 09/09/2002 5:56:44 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: kattracks
This is why my TV will be off on 9-11, I don't want to have to witness their vapid little "ceremonies". I darn sure expect to see Bush in stocking feet, tip toeing into a mosque to pay his respects. I just don't intend to endure seeing anymore of that crap.
33 posted on 09/09/2002 6:00:22 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Aquinasfan
Sadly, you are true.

It looks like it would take a "9-11" disaster on American soil once every six months or so, because the time frame for America to have rememberance, outrage, resolve and hatred for the enemy, steeped in common sense in an atmosphere where the liberal PC crap-pushers have to keep their sniveling mouths shut for fear of a backlash.....last(ed) only about SIX MONTHS.

34 posted on 09/09/2002 6:00:25 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Aquinasfan; kattracks
I said it then and I'll say it again: it will take two or more 9/11's to shake off this moral malaise.

In our churches, our schools, our government and society in general, we have forgotten the source of morality (God). Instead, we have become afraid to challenge those who wish to define it for us, based on good-sounding, but ultimately absurdist ideas (such a tolerance for anything and everything, multiculturalism, pan-sexuality). In addition, even those who are 'religious' are now so uneducated about God's morality that we don't even understand the wisdom of it. We have become moral shadows of our former selves - and our society shows us this every day. Most people do not know what they believe anymore on moral principles, or why they do believe what they do. And when they do, they are afraid to stand up for what they believe in.

35 posted on 09/09/2002 7:44:53 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: kattracks
Where's the anger?
I wish I had one of these!


36 posted on 09/09/2002 9:47:15 AM PDT by rockfish59
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To: kattracks
I'M ANGRY. Just saw a slide show on 9/11 that made me want to cry. People just have forgotten how horrendous it all was. Americans are so complacent.
37 posted on 09/09/2002 9:52:50 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: kattracks
We didn't weep our way to victory in WWII, and we won't now.
38 posted on 09/09/2002 4:03:07 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: thegreatbeast
Did you happen to hear Rush speak to this very issue today? He lampooned us because we as a nation have become to PC to be angry at being attacked on 9/11, etc.
39 posted on 09/09/2002 5:28:20 PM PDT by exnavy
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