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Average American Lifestyle Called "Total Bull---t" by Environmentalist
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 9/09/02 | Marc Morano

Posted on 09/09/2002 4:03:23 AM PDT by kattracks

Johannesburg (CNSNews.com) - One of participants at the "People's Earth Summit," a parallel (protest) event to last week's United Nation's-sponsored Earth summit, said, "If anyone in a developing country looks to the U.S. and wants a lifestyle like the average American--it's total bull---t!"

Paula Snyder, an American who is traveling around the developing world to promote various Green causes, told CNSNews.com , "Greed is the enemy - the underlying problem is greed, and that leads into most of the problems with the ecological system and the political system."

The People's Earth Summit was held at St. Stithians College near the U.N.'s main summit site in Johannesburg.

"We're going to need 16 more planets if everyone aspires to be like an average American," Snyder added.

'Social change project'


Snyder is traveling throughout the developing world as part of her "social change project," sponsored in part by the Earth Island Institute and Patch Adams, the famed doctor, known for his social activism and irreverent style.

Snyder said she has learned through her travels that residents of the world's poorer nations only think they want to emulate America.

"They want what we have -- but they don't realize how ugly it is," Snyder said.

Snyder implored her fellow Americans to "stop using so much...stop driving everywhere or carpool, stop wearing clothes that have brand names on them, stop using paper napkins for everything, stop using paper cups, carry your own travel mug, read Julia 'Butterfly' Hill's book, One Makes a Difference . It's the little things that really do make change." Hill is the young woman who lived in a California redwood tree for two years to protest logging practices.

"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to," she added.

"A lot to learn"


Katie Silberman told CNSNews.com , "I think the developing world has a lot of lessons for us as Americans in terms of limiting our consumption and reducing our waste."

Silberman is from the Oakland-based Center for Environmental Health, the group that led the heckling of Secretary of State Colin Powell during his address last week at the Earth Summit. (see story: American Environmentalist: 'I'm Ashamed For My Country')

"The American way of life at this point is so overblown in terms of materialism and consumption," Silberman explained. "We actually have a lot to learn from the Southern Hemisphere in terms of community health," she added.

Silberman cautioned against too much growth in the developing world. "We live on this one small planet and it only has a certain carrying capacity," she said.b?

'The natural way'

Eleven-year-old Akshit Batra, an Indian representative of the "Children's Earth Summit," said "greed of the people" is destroying the earth.

"People are very corrupt, they are not worried about the environment, they are not worried about the next generation," Batra said.

He said U.S. citizens "should try to change their lifestyle according to the natural way and farmers should decrease the use of pesticides."

'Ecological debt'


Richard Navarro, the chairman of Friends of the Earth International (FoEi) spoke at a People's Earth Summit conferences entitled, "Earth Democracy: Your Earth Rights."

FoEi played a prominent role in the main summit, and Navarro was sharply critical of the summit's final outcome. He said the world gathering was "hijacked by free market ideology, by a backward-looking, insular and ignorant U.S...."

Navarro's speech to the "People's Earth Summit" focused on the "ecological debt" owed by the industrialized "North to the [developing] South" for the North's pollution and consumption habits.

"How can a person on this planet have more right than others to consume more?" asked Navarro.

According to Navarro, men also owe the women a "debt" for gender bias, and he spoke of the debt that a "white person has with colored persons and indigenous peoples" because of racial discrimination.

In fact, all of mankind has "a debt from our species to the rest of nature," according to Navarro.

"Other species take from nature only what they need to survive," he stated. "Which other species has the capacity to destroy the earth?" Navarro asked.

Navarro said that the September 11th terrorist attacks on the U.S. were a tragic criminal act, but he noted, "That very same day, there were 7,000 people dying of diseases related to water [sanitation]. Isn't that also a crime?"

'New equality'


Herbert Girardet, chairman of the British-based Schumacher Society, said he was unhappy with the main Earth Summit because it was reduced to the "lowest common denominator - in other words, what the Americans think is okay."

Girardet said the agenda of the People's Summit was not to look at "what is possible, but what is necessary."

"The Earth is in such a profound sense of emergency" and "we must create a new equality between human life and the natural world," explained Giradet.

People at the People's Earth Summit waved posters reading, "Earth Spirituality"; "Free Trade Means Famine"; and an anti-genetically-modified-food poster reading, "Seed to Bread, Farmer to Farmer."

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Snyder said she has learned through her travels that residents of the world's poorer nations only think they want to emulate America.

Yeah, in reality they want to continue to live in hovels and starve to death.

1 posted on 09/09/2002 4:03:23 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I was drinkin' muh mornin' beer when I readed this. It come out muh nose!

Wunder whut Paula looks like...

prisoner6

2 posted on 09/09/2002 4:14:00 AM PDT by prisoner6
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To: kattracks
Good morning and thanks for another great post. Nothing like a good cup of coffee and the rantings of the greenies to get me fired up for the day :)



3 posted on 09/09/2002 4:14:53 AM PDT by missycocopuffs
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To: kattracks; dighton; aculeus; Orual; general_re
""We're going to need 16 more planets if everyone aspires to be like an average American," Snyder added."

Jeez, is it up to 16 now? It started off, about six months ago, as one additional planet ... then, just before the HotAir Conference in Jo'burg it became three .... <

Now it's 16? All right, admit it ... which one of you out there is hoarding planets! This inflation has to stop ... quit hiding planets under your mattress!

4 posted on 09/09/2002 4:18:30 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: kattracks
"Average American Lifestyle Called "Total Bull---t" by Environmentalist"

Please allow me to fix what was obviously an editorial error:

"Average Environmentalist Called "Total Bull---t" by American"

5 posted on 09/09/2002 4:23:24 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: kattracks
Yeah what total BS living in my suburban 2750 sq ft home w/ my 3 car garage. Oh, and that 57 inch wide screen HDTV w/ satellite and DVD thats just total BS too. Air conditioning what a crock!! That refrigerator and dishwasher and disposal and built it oven and cooktop!! Total BS!! Wish I lived in a hut w/ no running water. I think dysentary is awesome!! We have made a slide from it in the backyard...It rools! Wackos in this world get all the coverage.
6 posted on 09/09/2002 4:24:25 AM PDT by Brasky
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To: kattracks
Hmmm..., no mention of global warming.

Because they know that the wheels are coming off of that little theory. Now, it's more general, so that no matter what, they can something to complain about. I think we'll see more of this. You'll see less specifics, because the truth is not on their side.

7 posted on 09/09/2002 4:25:49 AM PDT by THX 1138
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To: kattracks
This is from The Onion, right?
8 posted on 09/09/2002 4:28:32 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: kattracks
Snyder said she has learned through her travels that residents of the world's poorer nations only think they want to emulate America.

"They want what we have -- but they don't realize how ugly it is," Snyder said.

Yes, the rampant disease, poverty, famine, unchecked ecological ruin, and often violent political repression rife in the third world are so much more politically pure, so long as none of that spiritually corrupting capitalist cash is driving it.

9 posted on 09/09/2002 4:29:49 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: kattracks
Silberman cautioned against too much growth in the developing world. "We live on this one small planet and it only has a certain carrying capacity," she said.

Well at least she probably won't have any children (hopefully not through abortion)

10 posted on 09/09/2002 4:30:59 AM PDT by TxBec
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To: Brasky
And things have gotten SOooo much better since we listened to them and stopped using DDT that I think the little girl is right and we should stop using all other pesticides as well. Those people, they only THINK they don't want to get malaria. In greenie-land, malaria is cool!
11 posted on 09/09/2002 4:32:10 AM PDT by johnb838
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To: BlueLancer
All right, admit it ... which one of you out there is hoarding planets! This inflation has to stop ... quit hiding planets under your mattress!

Dude! They're all around you!


12 posted on 09/09/2002 4:32:29 AM PDT by uglybiker
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To: kattracks
You know these people have gone over the cliff when they start spouting this sort of tripe. When they are SERIOUSLY talking about electrification and water treatment being bad for the 3rd world, they've checked out of reality.
13 posted on 09/09/2002 4:36:09 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: kattracks
there were 7,000 people dying of diseases related to water [sanitation]. Isn't that also a crime?


We might note that these jerks were within ten miles of people who have no clean water to drink or food to eat. Yet, they did not bother to take any of those sickly little children a glass of fresh water or a sandwich.

Quite obviously, these sumbags have plenty of money to fly over there and stay at fancy hotels. But, they do not care enough to spend ten bucks to help some hungry children.

Evidently, caring is not their primary agenda. Socialism is.

14 posted on 09/09/2002 4:36:38 AM PDT by Doug Fiedor
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To: kattracks
I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said

Sure she does, then she wouldn't have to work like most of us BULLsh*t Average Americans - she could just live off our backs, if she doesn't already. What a steamin' pantload of crap!

15 posted on 09/09/2002 4:43:40 AM PDT by WIladyconservative
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To: kattracks
"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said.

This is the only true statement in this article.

16 posted on 09/09/2002 4:46:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus
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To: kattracks
stop using paper napkins for everything, stop using paper cups

See where she is going. Next thing the envirocommies will try to take away paper for writing. Soon free thought itself will be deemed dangerous to mother earth.

17 posted on 09/09/2002 4:46:10 AM PDT by ChicagoRepublican
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To: kattracks
"Greed is the enemy - the underlying problem is greed, and that leads into most of the problems with the ecological system and the political system."

No, stupidity and the need to control others is.

The "invisible hand" of enlightened self-interest is still the most powerful weapon wielded by civilized man, and no amount of foaming rhetoric by the neurotic will ever change that.

We have not just gone through a couple of hundred years of the greatest burst of human ingenuity inventiveness and creativity, politically as well as scientifically, to hand things over to the insane... or have we?

18 posted on 09/09/2002 4:46:56 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: kattracks
Snyder is traveling throughout the developing world as part of her "social change project," sponsored in part by the Earth Island Institute and Patch Adams, the famed doctor, known for his social activism and irreverent style.

Snyder said she has learned through her travels that residents of the world's poorer nations only think they want to emulate America.

"They want what we have -- but they don't realize how ugly it is," Snyder said.

Snyder implored her fellow Americans to "stop using so much...stop driving everywhere or carpool, stop wearing clothes that have brand names on them, stop using paper napkins for everything, stop using paper cups, carry your own travel mug, read Julia 'Butterfly' Hill's book, One Makes a Difference. It's the little things that really do make change." Hill is the young woman who lived in a California redwood tree for two years to protest logging practices.

"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to," she added.

Ok, now I gotta ask.
1) How is she traveling? Surely not in an "evil jet" and certainly not first class,right?
2)She didn't mention toilet paper (maybe I should have left that one out...)
3)travel mugs are made of plastic, right? and books are made of paper? She's promoting them.. you heard her : )

19 posted on 09/09/2002 4:47:35 AM PDT by TxBec
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To: kattracks
Silberman is from the Oakland-based Center for Environmental Health, the group that led the heckling of Secretary of State Colin Powell during his address last week at the Earth Summit.

Katie Silberman

20 posted on 09/09/2002 4:47:45 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: BlueLancer; Orual; aculeus; general_re; kattracks
Snyder implored her fellow Americans to “stop using so much...stop driving everywhere or carpool, stop wearing clothes that have brand names on them, stop using paper napkins for everything, stop using paper cups, carry your own travel mug, read Julia ‘Butterfly’ Hill’s book, One Makes a Difference . It’s the little things that really do make change.” .... Snyder is traveling throughout the developing world as part of her “social change project” ...

Listen, you and your fellow globe-trotting pests should STOP burning up aviation fuel.

21 posted on 09/09/2002 4:48:18 AM PDT by dighton
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To: kattracks
"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to," she added.

You could have started by sharing some of that steak and lobster you are feasting on with some of the poor starving children down the street.

22 posted on 09/09/2002 4:48:36 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: RightOnline
Your rearrrangement of the headline was excellent. Every now and again a FReeper puts up a perfect post. This woman's "thinking" is right out of the pages of Karl Marx. She believes in "the dictatrship of the proletariat."

She knows, better than the people themselves, what they really want. Therefore, she and her fellow petty dictators have the "right" to tell the world what to do. And she claims the problem of the West is "greed." Does she think that the Robert Mugabes of this world are murdering, lying, thieving thugs out of the "goodness of their hearts"? Could "greed" be present among dictators? Your average African dictator makes Ken Lay of Enron look like a boy scout. (Actually, let's not restrict that to Africa. Arafat's stolen and stashed away about $1.3 billion. That sounds a tad -- what is the word -- greedy?

Congressman Billybob

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23 posted on 09/09/2002 4:50:28 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: kattracks
Yes, what we want is the lifestyle of Calcutta, India. Eighteen million people. They crap in the streets and die in the streets. When your airliner lands there and the door opens, you get the pungent aroma of the human waste of millions. Those are the good ol' days, folks.
24 posted on 09/09/2002 4:50:34 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Brasky
You bet! Give me a hearty bowl of sticks w/a side order of dirt.

Wash that down by lapping up some tepid river and you got some mighty-good eatin!

25 posted on 09/09/2002 4:51:35 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: ChicagoRepublican
Guess I'm just being a little dense this morning, but could someone explain the "stop wearing clothes that have brand names on them" statement?

And please....I already understand that trying to explain the statements of these wackos is a nearly fruitless venture. I'm just trying to figure out what this one has against brand-name clothing.

26 posted on 09/09/2002 4:53:40 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: KS Flyover
Oh, thanks for the pic!

Can we say "spacey, clueless, needs a good xxxxxxing, squirrel-faced little broad?

Good Lord, DON'T let this type breed!

prisoner6

27 posted on 09/09/2002 4:54:34 AM PDT by prisoner6
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To: kattracks
Put a burka on her and deport her to Saudi Arabia.
28 posted on 09/09/2002 4:56:43 AM PDT by Trickyguy
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To: kattracks
"We live on this one small planet and it only has a certain carrying capacity," she said."

Any chance she will volunteer to evacuate?

"How can a person on this planet have more right than others to consume more?" asked Navarro."

It's called survival of the fittest fellow, now go get in your hovel, walk on your knuckles I've decided your not allowed to walk upright, there's a height restriction, one man is not allowed to be taller than another.

29 posted on 09/09/2002 4:58:56 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: kattracks

Here we see the true agenda of these leftist turds

1) I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to,"...

2) (see story: American Environmentalist: 'I'm Ashamed For My Country')

3) Navarro's speech to the "People's Earth Summit" focused on the "ecological debt" owed by the industrialized "North to the [developing] South" for the North's pollution and consumption habits.

4) According to Navarro, men also owe the women a "debt" for gender bias, and he spoke of the debt that a "white person has with colored persons and indigenous peoples" because of racial discrimination

If you speak to these people eventually you get to the heart of their agenda. They don't care about the environment, if they did they'd see that the US in particular is light years ahead of any third world cesspool in terms of cleaning up environmental damage. A casual comparison of the Mississippi and the Ganges rivers will show that.

30 posted on 09/09/2002 5:04:17 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: dighton; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer
Snyder is traveling throughout the developing world as part of her "social change project," sponsored in part by the Earth Island Institute.

"Earth Island Institute, founded by environmental leader David Brower, "covers the waterfront" on environmental issues worldwide. One of its signal victories was making tuna dolphin-safe, and their mark reminds people of that achievement while characterizing the intelligence and fleetness of the group."

31 posted on 09/09/2002 5:04:57 AM PDT by Orual
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To: prisoner6
"We're going to need 16 more planets if everyone aspires to be like an average American," Snyder added.

So transparent. Snyder's just trying to get somebody else to pay to develop HIS planet.

32 posted on 09/09/2002 5:13:25 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: kattracks
Eleven-year-old Akshit Batra, an Indian representative of the "Children's Earth Summit," said "greed of the people" is destroying the earth.

Wonder if Akshit is related to the aforementioned "Bullsh*t".

33 posted on 09/09/2002 5:24:23 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: kattracks
I wonder how many gallons of gasoline and jet fuel were used to shuttle people to and from this "environmental" conference in private jets, limosines and SUVs.

Remember the story last month where the delegates to the African Conference on World Hunger were munching on lobster and caviar and sipping expensive wine at their receptions?

These conferences remind me of the Hollywood fundraisers for homeless people where the stars purchase dresses worth thousands for the event, arrive in private jets to help the homeless and charge $20,000 for a speech at the dinner.
34 posted on 09/09/2002 5:25:15 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: kattracks
Why does anyone take these whiners seriously?
35 posted on 09/09/2002 5:26:14 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: kattracks
"We're going to need 16 more planets if everyone aspires to be like an average American," Snyder added.

Aw, what the heck, let's make it an even 20, just to be on the safe side.

36 posted on 09/09/2002 5:27:18 AM PDT by ladtx
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To: kattracks
I actually enjoyed this earth summit. They really let the mask slip and admitted that it's about redistribution of wealth, not the environment. Since the Soviet Union fell the commies needed some place to escape to, and they chose the environmental movement.
37 posted on 09/09/2002 5:35:03 AM PDT by WindMinstrel
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To: cincinnati65
I'm just trying to figure out what this one has against brand-name clothing.

I'm still trying to figure that one out myself. I think it's directed at either the idea that all this mass-market stuff (like Hillfiger and Polo) which is so popular with the 'urban class' is mass-produced in third world sweat shops by those evil resource-raping capitalist pig-dog corporations. It might also have something to do with driving the need for consumer status symbols--if we didn't hold these up as desirable items, the sheeple wouldn't want them.

God, where would we be without these enlightened liberal academics (especially the over-indulged twenty-something liberal spawn)...They're so much more 'enlightened' than you or I...</extreme sarcasm>

38 posted on 09/09/2002 5:44:17 AM PDT by RepoGirl
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To: kattracks
Snyder implored her fellow Americans to "stop using so much...stop driving everywhere or carpool,

Well, I drive almost nowhere, and when I do, I carpool. One!

stop wearing clothes that have brand names on them,

Though I haven't checked, I'm sure all the brand names on my clothing are sufficiently low class. Probably assembled in third world sweat shops, too, providing citizens of developing nations with wages they could not otherwise receive. Two!

stop using paper napkins for everything,

I don't use them for everything. Three!

stop using paper cups,

I don't use paper cups. Four!

carry your own travel mug,

I did, until I accidentally left it in another's vehicle. Plan on buying another before I travel anywhere. Five!

read Julia 'Butterfly' Hill's book, One Makes a Difference.

Why?

Okay, that's five out of six. Does that mean my lifestyle bs quotient is at an acceptable level? Or do I have to read that dang book first? If not, then I can say that being an environmentalist is easy.

39 posted on 09/09/2002 5:47:06 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: Brasky
LOL!
40 posted on 09/09/2002 5:48:21 AM PDT by correctthought
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To: Cincinatus
"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said.

Dang! All my wealth has gone into guns. Of course she can come around and collect them. :)

41 posted on 09/09/2002 5:49:50 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: kattracks
I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said.

Come get it.


42 posted on 09/09/2002 5:57:12 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: Cincinatus
I wish I could too.....I could take everything these enviro-wackos have, so I could live in opulence, while they live in squalor. According to their comments and desires (as well as my own), that appears to be a total win-win situation all around.
43 posted on 09/09/2002 5:59:31 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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"I wish I could make a total redistribution [of wealth]," Snyder said. "Things are going to change. They have to," she added.

Proof positive these people have never worked a day in their life, have been spoiled rotten to the point of a bona-fide neurosis, not to mention brainwashed at taxpayer expense via our public educational system.

Things are going to change, but not the way you think, the time for your nonsense has passed and gone away, thankfully.

44 posted on 09/09/2002 6:07:39 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: kattracks
Reading this has changed my life. After I quit my job and burn all of my belongings, I shall weave a set of hemp clothing and wander to South America where the living is good. Hrmm, those villages that cow Sally Struthers is always wallowing through look pretty enlightened, and the combination sewer/well of the muddy trench is pretty efficient.

Spotted owls taste just like chicken.
45 posted on 09/09/2002 6:11:41 AM PDT by Neckbone
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To: kattracks
Brand names verboten?

She probably means that our clothing should be manufactured by noble Arizona native-Americans on primitive looms, and by northeastern liberal ladies on spinning wheels.

All clothing should be biodegradable and recyclable. Washing instruction labels would be blank so that soap won't pollute the waterways when the outfits turn into old crusties.

In fact, the ideal clothing for these whackos would be a couple of strategically-placed fig leafs so that we can all get back to the natural conditions of the Garden of Eden.

Leni

46 posted on 09/09/2002 6:11:45 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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Considering the new age enlightenment of these people, don't you mean the natural conditions of the great Earth-Mother Gaia when she was first born??
47 posted on 09/09/2002 6:17:26 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: RepoGirl
"I'm just trying to figure out what this one has against brand-name clothing"

It's called sew your own or better yet just cut 3 holes in a potato sack.

Other than that, we have a real problem until the public schools are put out of business. All these whackos are a direct product of them and we have millions of them that we have to deal with. The schools have made them incapable of reason and individual decision and they are quickly becoming a majority.
48 posted on 09/09/2002 6:18:08 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: kattracks
Snyder said she has learned through her travels that residents of the world's poorer nations only think they want to emulate America.

Mostly I think they'd settle for clean water and enough to eat, at least for starters.

49 posted on 09/09/2002 6:26:50 AM PDT by Salman
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To: Congressman Billybob
she claims the problem of the West is "greed."

Just shows how ignorant these people are.
What they see as "greed" is the basic human nature to try to advance ourselves and increase our standard of living. "Greed" alone does not accomplish this - hard work, and the exceeding efficiency generated by a free capitalist society are what increases the standard of living for everyone.

Capitalism may use the "most" resources, but it also is the engine for the most efficient use of resources.

I need further statistics on this, but -
that old saw about "America is 5% of the world's population and uses 25% of the resources" or some such. The rest of the statistic is never quoted. America produces over 30? (need this number) percent of the world's gross output of goods and services. This points to the overwhelming efficiency of the free capitalistic system that is the engine of liberty and standard of living.

I need numbers for other countries - how much of the world's resources do they use to produce what reduced amount of the world's output?

50 posted on 09/09/2002 6:31:56 AM PDT by MrB
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