Kill the white man?

TownHall.com ^ | 9/10/02 | Armstrong Williams

[kattracks]

"Kill the white man," was Eddie Murphy's memorable refrain as a Reggae singer hired to perform at a corporate conference in an old "Saturday Night Live" skit

Noel Ignatiev, a Harvard fellow and Marxist activist, now proposes that we adopt Murphy's refrain as the national anthem. Writing in the current edition of Harvard Magazine, Ignatiev argues that "abolishing the white race" (give or take a few murders, of course) "is desirable" because it would rectify the overt discrimination of the past. "Every group within white America," writes Ignatiev, ".has advanced its particular and narrowly defined interests at the expense of black people as a race." Presently, Ignatiev serves as a fellow at Harvard's WEB DuBois Institute.

Specifically, Ignatiev argues that the "social constructs known as the white race" confer unfair benefits upon those with white skin. And, indeed, this country's shared history of slavery has created some definite social hierarchies. These cultural divisions were sewn so deep into our social fabric, for so long, that even today there continues to be a wide achievement gap between blacks and whites.

Just one thing: encouraging our citizens to "abolish" an entire race keeps us from huddling together as a more perfect union. It also exacerbates racial tensions by encouraging people to regard themselves as tribes, rather than individuals, capable of succeeding or failing on their own merit. This sort of balkanization is never good for progress. Exhibit A: the Balkans.

Exhibit B: Cambodia during the late '70s, where dictator Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge army resolved to abolish the dominant tribe - in this case, the educated and the skilled - and create an agrarian utopia of the Marxist variety. Proclaiming, "What is rotten must be removed," Pot's regime slaughtered one quarter of Cambodia's population. This brutal and systematic purging effectively removed the sort of friction of ideas that ensures social progress. This is what happens when one tribe resolves to arbitrarily purge their "class enemies."

Somehow, this rousing point remains lost on the fellow from Harvard, who is quite comfortable calling for the purging of the white race. If Ignatiev were a foreign dictator, he would be compared to Pol Pot or Hitler or Stalin. In American academia, we reward him with a position at Harvard. How sad that America's premiere intellectual institution is touting this group hate.

Author David Horowitz put it succinctly on his Web site: "Suppose Frontpagemagazine.com ran a headline 'Abolish the black race? What do you think the reaction would be? But at Harvard, where demonizing whites is merely the standard curriculum, an article like this can appear in a glossy magazine.."

Of course, Ignatiev has no intention of retracting his statement. He remains hamstrung by the unwavering belief that the white race is essentially rotten and, therefore, beyond the pale of such subtle considerations as basic human rights. So he resolves to simply abolish them.

This sort of disregard for basic human rights never brings us closer to equality.

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[weikel]

This guy is just a reverse Nazi.

[Post Toasties]

A lot of Leftists are sick, dangerous people.

[cva66snipe]

I think the satire song was Kill the white people. The chorus was something like kill the white people but buy my record first. My favorites were Buckwheat, Tyrone Pone the Prison Poet, and Mister Robberson. He has Stevie Wonder down real well also.

[BlessingInDisguise]

cil whitey

[AmericanVictory]

Ah, the "science" of history turns against history, history as the triumph of technology over diversity and the rise, iin the West, of the entrepreneur/inventor, coupled with the movement from status to contract. Here we see the true Marxist identification with Luddite tribalism and why the Taliban and the Marxist are so comfortable, one with the other.

[DoughtyOne]

I believe that it would be a natural reaction for many to dismiss my comments regarding race on this forum, as ill-advised. Specificly, I have stated that it was very important that a few dominant white majority nations continue to exist.

I don't suggest that this be done out of some superiority status attributed to whites, but so that people of white ancestry would still be able to exercise self-determination from a position of numbers in a few nations. I support that same position for all nationalities or races.

I would submit that if folks think this Harvard professor is an anomoly, they think again. Think Zimbabwe. Think South Africa. Think long and hard about a world where no states are made up of a magority of white people and people such as this Harvard professor rule.

[Barnacle]

It is astonishing how those who should be institutionalized are instead influencing thought at institutions of higher education.

[Sabertooth]

Apologies for missing the fireworks of this weekend, gents.

This article raises a dilemma:

I don't much care how my kids or grandkids mingle ethnically, or whether they intermarry as long as they choose mates with whom they share good values. Perpetuating my Caucasian seed "unsullied" is not a big priority of mine. To me, being white is about as important as being 5'10" or having green eyes.... it's just part of the hand I was dealt.

Yet when someone calls for abolishing the white race, I find myself of more than one mind. One is to take it with a grain of salt, another is a glimpse what it's like to be a targeted ethnicity, and a third grows out of the second:

I'm concerned that statements like this are contributing to a siege mentality among some Caucasians, making them more susceptible to racial and racist appeals.

When I consider that people of my parents' generation took segregation as a matter of course, that in my lifetime some blacks weren't allowed to vote, and that these things are unthinkable today, it makes me appreciate how precious this moment in History truly is.

Racial polarization begets more polarization, and has been the norm in most societies throughout virtually the entire History of human civilization.

I don't know what it will take, but we can't let this moment slip away, because there's no guarantee of a second chance.

[DoughtyOne]

magority = majority (yikes)

[nightdriver]

"Ignatiev argues that "abolishing the white race" (give or take a few murders, of course) "is desirable" because it would rectify the overt discrimination of the past."

OK, so if "they" accomplish this, who would they have left to balme?

[Barnacle]

And so, what would Harvard’s reaction be to a white fellow proposing the elimination of a non-white race?

[DoughtyOne]

I couldn't agree with you more for the most part. The fact is that there is an underlying vein of racism runing through several miniorities in this nation. When you see a celebration because California's white occupants have dipped below 50%, it's a rather rude wake-up call. If it's okay for a sitting President and the Governor of the state to openly and publicly celebrate this, what's that say to you?

My wife is Hispanic. Generally I too could care less where people came from. The fact is, you and I in effect playing the game of life, and haven't even had a scorecard until recently. I don't relish having to consider what will happen if whites fall below 50% of this nation's populace, but I can tell you it won't be pretty. Take a look at the attitudes. There are folks out there who are itching to exert some pay-back.

Reparations, Aztlan and a number of splinter issues that don't even show up on our radar, do show up on other people's radar. It's a sad fact, but it's the real world we live in.

[DoughtyOne]

Who will Zimbabwe have to blame if many of their citizens starve due to the destruction of the white based food production? We're not talking rationality here. If we were, Marxism would be recognized by the university elite for the failed ideology that it is.

[cva66snipe]

True enough. Only one race in history by devine call was ordered to seperate itself from others. That no longer applies as all who believe in the Covenant of Christ are grafted branches into one. The persons values make the person & not the race. I happen to be white. I am proud of my heritage. If I were black I would be just as proud as this nations economy was built upon the backs of blacks especially in the south. This is true just as Egypt was built by the labors of the Jews. If I were Jewish I would be proud as that through my fore fathers faith generations upon generations are blessed.

[Jimbaugh]

What if I don't want to die?

[DoughtyOne]

If I were black I would be just as proud as this nations economy was built upon the backs of blacks especially in the south.

In some respects I agree with your comments.  In other respects I think it's a matter of perspective.

I was fortunate enough to have been raised by people who were color blind.  I spent the major portion of my life feeling the same way.  With regard to the most important aspects, I still do.  I try to treat everyone with respect, regardless of race, gender, religion et al.  But I do think it is important that we observe the society we live in, and evaluate that society based on reality, not what we wish were true.  And so I have had to recognize differences, evaluate people's actions based on these differences, and make conclusions based on those observations.

The balkinization process this nation has experienced over the last twenty years, is undeniable.  Academia has promoted this balkinization.  If kids weren't already balkinized by the time they entered our major universities, they most certainly were by the time they left.  No.  Whites have not been major participants in this effort.  They were taught sensitivity and to respect others, on penalty of outright ostracism from participation in certain societal programs.  But the vitriolic animosity exhibited by those on the left, does not mirror this thought process, or promote minorities to adopt the same mind-set.  The invention of the hyphenated American exemplifies this.  Instead of us all adopting this nation as our own, as in we're all United States citizens of equal status regardless of color, some have achieved a special elevated status.

The Democrats, the leftist Academia, the Hollywood crowd, the Unions, the globalists, much of the NGO crowd and others see this nation in terms of the majority segment of society, and the oppressed.  The sooner the majority segment of society can been reduced to minority status, the better.  But once that happens, another majority group will emerge.  Won't that be just as problematic?  Obviously not.  Why is that?

Did you know that by definition blacks and hispanics cannot be racist?  You and I may not accept that, but that's the way the left and the marxists see it.  And that means that we play by two sets of rules.  I am not making this up.  It is reality.  When the homsexual person was killed up north, it was a hate crime.  When the child was killed in Arkansas it was just another run of the mill crime.  When Reginald Deny was pulled from his truck, it was a random crime.  When whites were targeted in Seattle and Cincinattie (I believe I have those two cities correct), there was nothing racial about it.  It was random.

Look, you and I agree with what society should operate like.  But those who think it really operates that way are walking right into a buz saw.

When I watch people interviewed, participants in game shows, participants in reality based television shows, and people I run into, I pay attention.  Many minority members do exhibit the same thought processes that you and I approve of.  They see everyone as equals.  But there is a significant segment of society that does not see things this way at all.  Should we deny that and act as if it weren't true?

How do you think that Democrats and leftists garner the support they do considering the views they espouse in public?  They promote every devisive racial agenda program that comes along.  I submit that if folks in the minority groups operated by the same rules that whites are supposed to operate by, they would reject leftists outright.  The fact is, they support preferencial treatments on a host of issues.  No, not all of them, but most of them.  Some outlandish percentage of blacks vote for democrats no matter what.  That is reality.  You and I try to vote for the best man based on his support of our constitution and fare principles.  I am convinced that others vote for them based on what that candidate will do for their race.

You stated that this nation's economy was built on the backs of blacks, especially in the south.  While I do support blacks being just as proud as anyone else in their contributions to what made this nation what it is today, I do not believe the numbers of blacks that were present in the formitive days of this nation support your belief.  My preception is that blacks never exceded 5% of the US populace during the formative years of this nation.  Therefore I think it's a bit of a stretch to credit them for being responsible for the lion's share of this nation's formative economy.  Perhaps you or others can provide more substance to back up your belief.  If so I'll give it a look and consider the implications.

Thanks for the comments.

[cva66snipe]

My preception is that blacks never exceded 5% of the US populace during the formative years of this nation. Therefore I think it's a bit of a stretch to credit them for being responsible for the lion's share of this nation's formative economy.

I was refering to the pre 1860's south where the population ratio was much higher. Was slavery a bad thing for blacks? Yes & no. The slavery advanced their education & culture by 200 years or more. No race has existed that has escaped slavery. At the same time the people were not afforded the same rights endowed by our creator. Strange as it seems races and nations grow when challanged by adversity. No adversity means growing complacent. That problem now faces this nation square in the eyes. It's been nearly 60 years since our existance as a nation was on the line.

But does it even take a majority of one race for a nation to prosper? The most sucessfull race in this nation isn't white as in European or even a majority. Actually it is the most despised among most all other races through the ages. Yet America prospers still from the sons of Israel. My wife grew up in 1950's Rural Arkansas. Her grandmother told her when the Jewish merchants start leaving town the economy will bottom.

But the issues which you speak of is called Cultural Marxism. Bill Lind did a great article on it.

Click here to get to the link

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

Correct. This clymer should at least get his facts straight. Eddie Murphy as Tyrone Green with his Reggae band at a VFW. It was hilarious. Here's the song:

http://www.earthstation1.com/pgs/weirdness/des-Kill_The_White_People.wav.html

[scouse]

I heard this character on the Laura Ingraham show and he is an ex-steel worker who is quite adamant regarding his position.