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One Year After 9/11 - A Few Questions for the Islamists and their American Apologists
Speech Commentary Delivered at 9/11 Commemoration ^ | Wednesday, September 11, 2002 | Van Jenerette

Posted on 09/10/2002 8:36:20 PM PDT by Van Jenerette

One Year after 9-11 - Care to answer a few Questions?

Some tough questions for the Islamists
and their American Apologists
- my comments by Van Jenerette



"If you ask a man who beats his wife if he is still beating her, he will most likely tell you one of two things. First, he'll tell you that he never raised a hand to her. But, if you have the proof that he beat her, he will then tell you that she did something to provoke him and it was really her fault."

- Excuses to Give when You are a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing

   


...when 18-Muslim guys hijack airplanes full of ordinary people and crash them into buildings full of ordinary people, and tell us that they did it for Allah and Islam - it's pretty convincing for us to believe that they did it, well, for Allah and Islam. Now you come along and say it isn't true?
 

Some Simple Questions

"If Jihad; by definition does not include the concept of a violent 'Holy War', why do so many Islamic clerics and followers of the Muslim religion keep using it for justification of their killing of other people of other faiths or nations? Can these millions of readers of the Koran have it that wrong?"

 

On the 1st Anniversary of 9-11 many of us are really glad to hear that the NEA, the Saudi Royal Family, the University of North Carolina, and an assortment of other Colleges and groups are out to clear up misconceptions of Islam that most non-Muslim American's seem to have. What a crowd to share one bed! To advance the notion that Muslims' and Islam are against terrorism sounds like a bold and interesting initiative, especially since the 11 September terrorist attacks on the United States were done by people who were both Muslims and terrorists. That's a rough Public Relations job.

You've got to understand, many of us here in America get confused pretty easily when 18-Muslim guys hijack airplanes full of ordinary people and crash them into buildings full of ordinary people, and tell us that they did it for Allah and Islam - it's pretty convincing for us to believe that they did it, well, for Allah and Islam. Now you come along and say it isn't true? I mean, these guys were about to die, why would they lie? You can understand our confusion, can't you?

I realize that you think that many Americans are unfair if they make a connection of Islam with terrorism - That's not exactly a stretch; I mean it is a reasonable conclusion to make, given the terrorists had Islamic prayers and instructions along with quotations from the Koran with them? Honestly, if these hijackers left behind letters that said they took down the WTC and the Pentagon on instructions from their grandmothers- we'd probably suspect a connection to dear old granny. We just need some clarification - were these terrorists' Muslims or not?

By the way, one high level Arab said in an interview, "It is incumbent upon us, as Arabs and Muslims, women and men, not only to state but, more importantly, to demonstrate that Islam is a religion of peace, tolerance, love, compassion and mercy," I really wanted to ask you about that group that calls themselves the Islamic Jihad - aren't they terrorists? Why would they call themselves Islamic if they weren't and then add Jihad to their name if its not related to the terrorism that they do as an occupation? I mean, I didn't make up that name - they did! I'm getting lost here pretty fast...

Well, I must admit though, I've heard some people make the excuse that these terrorists; including Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda, have gone out and 'hijacked' Isalm. Wow, these guys do get around; planes, trains, maybe mail and an entire religion, all hijacked. Ask any Islamic mosque leader in the middle of America, you do have a PR problem. A really BIG one.

I can see why you want to promote a better image of yourselves. You aren't doing too good of a job right now with most of America. You are probably scratching your head about why many of us link Islam and Muslims to terrorisim, especially since we don't label someone like Timothy McVeigh as a 'Christian terrorist.' Well, I never heard him say that he brought down the Federal Building for Jesus or God, or Mathew, Mark, Luke, or John even, and I never saw a photo of him holding an AK-47, Grenades and a Holy Book like most 'self-proclaimed' Islamic terrorists' have done on a routine basis.

You have to understand, despite our low SAT scores, and low verbal and math scores, most of us do actually think on our own - once in a while, especially about serious things. I mean, despite American PS education we aren't that slow to catch on, all the time.

Well, I'd like to ask some simple questions that you could address next time you are interested in holding a 'setting-the-record-straight' session about Islam and Muslims. Okay?

Just relax, take deep breath and be yourself and answer these as honestly as you can and I'm sure that a lot of the confusion about Muslims, Islam and Terrorists can be cleared up, pronto!

QUESTION #1: Are there two versions of the Koran floating around out there. If so, what is the difference between the Koran that the Terrorists are reading, and the Koran that the rest of the Muslim world is reading? Is there an Original Koran and Revised Koran? If so, who is reading which version? I mean, someone has to have the Koran right and someone else has to have it wrong! Right?

QUESTION #2: There seems to be no shortage of Muslims who agree with Bin Laden and other Terrorism Inc. members, et. al. Maybe millions. Shouldn't you have a program for these 'wayward' Muslims and their followers who have 'hijacked' Islam about the true meaning of the Koran and Islam?

QUESTION#3: Does Islam means peace, or does it mean surrender or submission as I've read in Arabic?

QUESTION#4: Why are you making such a large effort to convince Christians and other non-Muslims in America that Islam is a peaceful, tolerant, kind, and respectful religion, but there is no such direct effort to convey the same messages into the Mosques, the Arab Muslim world; and especially to those Muslims in Gaza, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria, Tajikistan, the Philippines, the West Bank, Sudan, Chechnya, etc.?

QUESTION#5: Why are Christian churches, Christian worship and Christian preaching banned in so many Islamic nations if Islam is so tolerant of all faiths?

QUESTION#6: Why don't you have an information session or sermon, where you tell Osama bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, the Taliban and other Muslims who agree with them, that they have the Koran and the Prophet Mohammad all wrong?

QUESTION#7: Do you remember the author Salman Rushdie? Many of your religious leaders didn't waste anytime putting a price [FATWA] on his head and all he did is write a book that broke Islamic Law. Why don't you put a price on Osama Bin Laden directly and condemn him and other terrorist organizations as apostates for going against the 'peaceful, tolerant' Muslim Religion?

QUESTION#8: This is a very hard question that you may not want to answer. It is about Israel. Why haven't Muslims everywhere; including you'all (that's Southern for - All of You; up north it's pronounced Youse Guys), condemned the bombings of Disco's, Pizzeria's, or the killing of civilians and of school children in Israel?

QUESTION#9: Just what does the word 'innocent' mean in your language or the religion of Islam. This answer could clear up a lot of uneasiness for many of us in the USA. Like, is a U.S. Postal worker 'innocent'? How about a 2-year old baby on a plane with his parents? How about a fireman trying to save lives in a burning building, even if they are Muslims and he is a Christian - is he an 'innocent?'

QUESTION#10: If Jihad; by definition does not include the concept of a violent 'Holy War', why do so many Islamic clerics and followers of the Muslim religion keep using it for justification of their killing of other people of other faiths or nations? Can these millions of readers of the Koran have it that wrong?

QUESTION#11: This is a personal kinda question but, I'm still not sure as a Christian, if I'm considered a non-believer that Muslims should live in peace with or if I am an infidel that should be avoided or killed for my corrupt life style, or my religious belief of Jesus Christ and the Trinity of God. I'd sure like to know.

QUESTION#12: Finally, I do watch a lot of T.V., and I have a question, just who were those people and children out into the streets in the Middle Eastern part of the world that cheered the deaths of thousands of innocent people on September 11th. Those happy people couldn't have been Muslims or Islamic could they?

Sorry for the long list of questions. But, I would suggest some direct and specific answers that would help all of us in the USA to gain a new understanding of Islam and the Muslim world.

Not that I'm in a position to give you any tips, but most Americans like straight talk - not spin - so I would recommend that you avoid a history about the Crusades of the 11th and 12th centuries, after all Muslim armies did invade Europe and were stopped in central France in 732; or the U.S. foreign policy crap, or the rage of Muslims, or the Palestinians claims to the same lands as the Israelis, or comparisons to Christianity and Judaism, or US support for repressive undemocratic regimes such as Saudi Arabia; aren't most of the 55-57 Muslim nations around the world 'undemocratic? And please, no stories of poverty or hunger, or the CIA, or other 'look-behind-you' answers. Just straight talk goes over real big here in the United States.

Don't misread us because of some educated idiots at the University of North Carolina make their students read a well edited 'early' version of selections from the Koran - most of us realized that is like telling a battered wife that to better understand why her husband tried to kill her the police and the judge will read his love letters and watch video's of the wedding day and honey moon vacation. Oh, sure. We'll get a clear understanding of the who-whats-and-whys of wife killers from that exercise!

I have to hand it to you though, you must have watched a few of Oprah's show of Islam 101 or the evening news with Dan Rather or Peter Jennings and figured they weren't doing a very good job. Those are some small shoes to fill.

Anyway, good luck with this enterprise. Us Americans would like nothing better than the truth about Islam and Muslims and the TRUE 'official' position of this 'growing' religion when it comes to terrorism and jihad.

Oh by the way; while you are at it, perhaps you can tape a "Understanding Islam" broadcast and send some shows to Muslim areas of the world to help set the record straight for some of the people who share Islam: You might consider instructing 'wayward' Muslims and their followers who have 'hijacked' Islam about the true meaning of the Koran and Islam. The bottom line is, I really don't care about the religion. Tell the Muslims about their religion. Now there's a new thought; just tell the Muslims who have their Koran, Islam and the Prophets' message all wrong - that they have it backwards and inside out. They seem to be the ones who need to understand the 'true' meaning of the Koran and Islam.

I am looking forward to some answers.

thank you,

Van Jenerette
Ph.D. Candidate, University of South Carolina
Joe Average American Citizen; who drives a Dodge Pick-Up Truck

 
P.S. I almost forgot, just one more question. There was a story about American Servicemen who were Muslim and one said he avoided the infantry because of the possibility of going to war against a Muslim nation. "Facing the thought of killing other Muslims was awkward for me..." says Abdelwahed, 37." - Newsweek, October 15, 2001 pg.40
So, can I conclude that a Muslim in the U.S. military, wouldn't have any problem or feel awkward with killing Christians or Jews or Buddists or Idolators or anyone else just as long as it wasn't a Muslim? I'm just curious...



Another POST SCRIPT Question: By the way, don't most Islamic countries practice HONOR KILLINGs? I figure any people who can kill their own daughters are capable of killing just about anyone...
 
 

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 911; islam; muslim; unc; wtc
Some old questions ... still not answered. Never forget...
1 posted on 09/10/2002 8:36:20 PM PDT by Van Jenerette
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To: Van Jenerette
Some tough questions for the Islamists and their American Apologists

Cigarette? Blindfold?

2 posted on 09/10/2002 8:41:03 PM PDT by Marylander
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To: Van Jenerette
1. There aren't two versions. There are different translations.

As there are different translations of the Bible.

Contemporary tranlations of both have contradictions within each.

Study harder. It's a beautiful experience. Keep an open mind.

M

3 posted on 09/10/2002 8:45:36 PM PDT by AzJP
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To: AzJP
Ooops, after reading Van's homepage, I see that we're both bright enough to realize his questions were rhetorical.

No loss. We've got the office tv working again, so it's back to baseball!

M

4 posted on 09/10/2002 8:58:00 PM PDT by AzJP
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To: Van Jenerette
Excellent work, Major.

I'm sure the Muslim answer will be "You don't need to know, all you need to do is submit to us. Or die."

5 posted on 09/10/2002 9:15:30 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Van Jenerette
Islam is a religion of peace? Tell that to the women who are stoned for committing adultery.
6 posted on 09/10/2002 9:48:44 PM PDT by Ipberg
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To: Van Jenerette
While I personally believe that Islam is a false religion in the sense that it teaches that Jesus was only a prophet and not the Messiah and Son of God, I think you are making too much of the connection between Islam and the terrorists.

For much of the last century, there were various liberal "Christian" groups who applauded all things Marxist. They traveled to Russia even during the days of Stalin and returned glowing with praise. They funded Marxist revolutionaries to overthrow non-communist countries and commit acts of brutality against the citizens who didn't join them quickly enough. They did all of these evil things in the name of "Christianity." Their actions had nothing to do with the true Gospel, but they claimed the label of "Christian" for their Marxist activities.

There will always be people in every country and every religion who just can't stand the fact that the world doesn't revolve around them. They hate seeing their neighbors living happy lives minding their own business. This hate drives these people to look for ways to destroy that which makes their neighbors content.

In America, these people gravitate to liberalism and the Democrat party. I'm not saying every liberal or every Democrat is this way, but the haters lead the movement. They see liberalism as the best way to destroy America and disrupt their neighbors' healthy, happy lives.

In the Middle East, these people gravitate to Islamic extremism. Selling oil has made the countries of the Middle East rich beyond the dreams of the great-grandfathers of almost all who are living there today. The people have food, clothing, shelter (with air conditioning), medical care, and education that their ancestors couldn't imagine. America hasn't been the "great Satan" to them. America has been the great customer who has elevated their standard of living. Admittedly, things there are not perfect. They don't have our freedoms, and I certainly wouldn't trade places with them. The government doesn't treat them as it should. However, those like Osama bin Laden and the Iranian Ayatollahs do not want to change their country to one that benefits the common man even more. Instead, they want to destroy those countries and put them back in a situation where the people are poor and dependent on demagogues like themselves.

I'm not advocating a "better understanding" of Islam or more recognition of Islam in our country. I would be most happy if more people would adopt the Christian religion when they come to America. However, "Islam" is only a vehicle for our real enemies. We must destroy those enemies, and to do so, we must recognize that they are using Islam only as a cover.

A Year Later
Bill

7 posted on 09/10/2002 9:53:45 PM PDT by WFTR
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To: WFTR
I think you are making too much of the connection between Islam and the terrorists.

Questions 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.

Did you see all the big name, heavy hitting Muslim clerics who stood up and condemned the 9/11 attacks? Did you see all the Muslims in the streets around the world condemning Bin Laden and his ilk for what was done? Did you see all the news reports about how the Muslims were working to turn Bin Laden over for justice?

Me neither.

8 posted on 09/10/2002 10:11:39 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: WFTR
I think you are making too much of the connection between Islam and the terrorists.

I wish you were right, but everything I have been exposed to about this 'religion' including my time in the U.S. Army points in the other direction - Islam and this particular brand of terrorism is not only connected, but it is possible that only the practioners keep the slender boundary in place...

I think your point about Christian's is off base completely...but I'll save that for another day.

Best

Van - www.jenerette.com

9 posted on 09/10/2002 10:11:53 PM PDT by Van Jenerette
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To: Van Jenerette; Constitution Day
WOW..........excellent job!

Good read CD.......check it out.

MKM

10 posted on 09/10/2002 10:22:04 PM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: Van Jenerette
Great article! Would love to hear these questions asked during the 9-11 memorials ... oops! nevermind; that might offend some of our Muslim citizens.
11 posted on 09/10/2002 10:50:56 PM PDT by bjcintennessee
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To: Van Jenerette
My guess is that one day, the answer to your question about whether Islam means 'peace' or 'submission' will be decided. Most like it will be: "Islamic Nations, 'peace' will require 'submission' to US Forces". That's not meant to be a joke. I see no way to solve this problem until all the Islamic nations, whose people revel when innocent 'infidels' are killed, are brought to their collective knees in submission. It will need to be dealt with in such a severe way because it's a religion. They have to be made to realize that their way is wrong. Because, if we don't, it eventually will be done to us. They have no compunction in slaughtering millions because their Book says its ok: we're infidels; it's necessary for the greater glory of Allah. Ideologies, such as Capitalism, and Communism, are on the whole rational. Religions, on the other hand, are often anything but. We will have to crush them, and that necessitates be a long and difficult war with Islam. I asked myself most of your questions right after 9-11, after listening to the 'Islam, Religion of Peace' spew. I heard the loudest silence imaginable from Islam. It is not a religion of peace. It is a religion of death.
12 posted on 09/10/2002 11:43:15 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy
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To: Van Jenerette; Yehuda; StarFan; firebrand; Dutchy; nutmeg; AnnaZ; Mercuria
outstanding article!
13 posted on 09/11/2002 3:51:09 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Van Jenerette
Answer#1: American brought it on her self.
Answer#2: The Jews did it.
Answer#3: All because of Bush administration.
Answer#4: American brought it on her self.
Answer#5: The Jews did it.
Answer#6: All because of Bush administration.
Answer#7: American brought it on her self.
Answer#8: The Jews did it.
Answer#9: All because of Bush administration.
Answer#10: American brought it on her self.
Answer#11: The Jews did it.
Answer#12: All because of Bush administration.
14 posted on 09/11/2002 3:59:13 AM PDT by Kaafi
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To: Kaafi
You need to learn how to read.
15 posted on 09/11/2002 6:17:37 AM PDT by MadJack
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