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Fox News Allows Attack on Prophet Muhammad (CAIR Action Alert)
CAIR Action Alert (via email) ^ | 19 September 2002 | CAIR

Posted on 09/19/2002 7:14:35 PM PDT by Stultis

In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful

CAIR ACTION ALERT #347

FOX NEWS ALLOWS ATTACK ON PROPHET MUHAMMAD
Sean Hannity fails to challenge Pat Robertson's Islamophobic rhetoric

(WASHINGTON, D.C., 9/19/02) - CAIR today expressed concern about what it says is a pattern of anti-Muslim bias by Fox News Channel citing Wednesday night's "Hannity & Colmes" program as an example of how the network promotes anti-Muslim hate. On that program, host Sean Hannity seemed to encourage televangelist Pat Robertson in his venomous attack on Islam and on the Prophet Muhammad.

About the Prophet Muhammad, Robertson said: "This man was an absolute wild-eyed fanatic. He was a robber and a brigand. And to say that these terrorists distort Islam, they're carrying out Islam." Instead of challenging those hate-filled remarks, Hannity said: "Reverend, how widespread do you think that fanatical interpretation is? Do you think it's mainstream? Or do you think it's the majority of Muslims?"

After Robertson replied by calling Islam "a monumental scam," Hannity said: "So Islam is a threat bigger than what most people are willing to say publicly?... Do you think it's inevitable, then, that the world is going to be in conflict, perhaps even at war, with Islam for many decades to come?"

In the program's second segment, Robertson said: "[The Quran, Islam's revealed text] is strictly a theft of Jewish theology…I mean, this man [Muhammad] was a killer. And to think that this is a peaceful religion is fraudulent."

"Our office receives daily complaints from concerned Muslims and people of other faiths who say that Fox's news and views on Islam, Muslims or the Middle East are neither fair nor balanced. Venomous and hate-filled remarks like those made by Robertson, and Sean Hannity's failure to challenge those remarks, poison the minds of ordinary viewers and can incite acts of violence against American Muslims," said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad.

Awad added that in just the past month, there was a shooting attack on an Ohio mosque, vandalism at Islamic center under construction in Virginia and the revelation of a detailed plan to attack some 50 Florida mosques. He also called on American religious and political leaders to repudiate defamatory attacks on the faith of Islam.

As other examples of the network's anti-Muslim bias, Awad cited Fox's inflammatory coverage of last Friday's "terror scare" in Florida, talk show host Bill O'Reilly's comparison of the Quran to Hitler's "Mein Kampf" and the network's tendency to ambush and abuse those Muslims who do appear on its programs. He did however note that Fox's "On the Record" with host Greta Van Susteren often presents fair and balanced coverage of Muslims and Islam.

In a recent CAIR survey, 45 percent of Muslim respondents said Fox News was the media outlet that exhibited the most biased coverage of Islam and Muslims. CAIR is seeking to counter anti-Muslim hate in American society with its Library Project, a campaign to encourage Muslim individuals and groups to sponsor 18-item "library packages" of books, videos and audio cassettes about Islam and Muslims for distribution to as many as 16,000 public libraries nationwide. The package contains books such as "Muhammad," a biography of the Prophet Muhammad by Yahiya Emerick. SEE: www.libraryproject.org

ACTION REQUESTED: (As always, be POLITE. Fox is likely to use hostile comments to further harm the image of Islam and Muslims.)

1) Contact Fox to request that they offer fair and balanced coverage of issues related to Islam, and that the network not promote or encourage Muslim-bashers such as Robertson.

CONTACT:

Mr. Roger Ailes
Chief Executive Officer
Fox News Channel
1211 Avenue of the Americas, Lowr C1
New York, NY 10036-8701

FAX: 212-556-8219

E-MAIL: roger.ailes@foxnews.com
COPY TO: cair@cair-net.org, brian.lewis@foxnews.com, robert.zimmerman@foxnews.com, meade.cooper@foxnews.com, bill.shine@foxnews.com, hannity@foxnews.com, colmes@foxnews.com, comments@foxnews.com, Viewerservices@foxnews.com

CALL FOX COMMENT LINE: 1-888-369-4762
CALL HANNITY & COLMES: 212-301-3289
FAX HANNITY & COLMES: 212-301-4222

2) Help educate the American public about Islam by taking part in CAIR's Library Project.
GO TO: www.libraryproject.org

- PLEASE POST, COPY AND DISTRIBUTE -

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TRANSCRIPT OF HANNITY & COLMES
FOX NEWS NETWORK
September 18, 2002 Wednesday

GUESTS: Pat Robertson
HOSTS: Sean Hannity, Alan Colmes

COLMES: I'm Alan Colmes. We're back on HANNITY & COLMES.

Coming up tonight, why is one prison in California denying black inmates their right to have visitors? Is this discrimination veiled in the guise of security? We'll debate that. First, joining us now, the chairman and founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network, the Reverend Pat Robertson.

Reverend Robertson, always good to have you on the program. PAT ROBERTSON, CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING NETWORK: Hey, it's a pleasure as usual.

COLMES: All right, sir. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops president, William Gregory, said yesterday that it would be difficult to justify preemptive attack under Roman Catholic teachings on warfare. Where do you stand on that?

ROBERTSON: I would tell the good bishop to read the book of Habakkuk in the Old Testament and see what it says about those who kill and pillage and rape and hurt innocent people, that the judgment of the Lord needs to come on them. And you know, with Saddam Hussein, 500,000 innocent Iranians killed, 5,000 to 6,000 Kurds gassed. Who knows how many Shi'ite Muslims and how many of his enemies? He actually boils them in oil. This man is a horrible monster. And...

COLMES: You know, nobody denies that. Nobody is saying they love Saddam Hussein. The question is, what is proper? What is just? Should the United States take a preemptive strike? And does that violate Christian teaching for the United States to be the one to decide we're going after this guy?

ROBERTSON: Well, somebody has got to enforce this. You know, we've been spending a billion dollars a year on that no-fly zone over there every year since the Gulf War. And we went in to help the innocent. We went in to help the oppressed, the Kuwaitis. And now others are being oppressed. And the bible says to lift the yolk of oppression from those who would hurt the innocent and the non-combatants, if you will.

COLMES: You've come on this show many times. We've talked about members of the religion of Islam on this program, your view of people of that religion. And you have often said that not enough have spoken out about the atrocity of September 11. And I want to show you the statement of the Study of Islam and Democracy, signed on by dozens and dozens of individuals and groups where they said, "We wish again to state unequivocally that neither the al-Qaeda organization nor Usama bin Laden represents Islam or reflects Muslim beliefs and practice. Rather, groups like al-Qaeda have misused and abused Islam in order to fit their own radical and indeed anti-Islamic agenda."

And this is again signatories all over the place, dozens. They speak for mainstream Muslims in America and worldwide.

ROBERTSON: You know, I hate to tell you, Alan, but that is absolute falsehood, not on your part, but on the part of those who signed it. All you have to do is read the writings of Mohammed in the Koran. He urges people to attack the infidels. He urges his followers to kill Christians and Jews. He talks about eradicating all of the Jews. This man was an absolute wild-eyed fanatic. He was a robber and a brigand. And to say that these terrorists distort Islam, they're carrying out Islam.

HANNITY: Reverend, how widespread do you think that fanatical interpretation is? Do you think it's mainstream? Or do you think it's the majority of Muslims?

ROBERTSON: I think there are many Muslims, just like there are many Catholics and there are many Jews and there are many Protestants, that don't really understand what their religion believes. And they go along. And they're just kind of easy to get along with folks.

But I think that in the Muslim world, you look at where the terror is, you look at where the dictators are, you look at where the oppression is, and it's all in the Muslim world. And I think especially with Saudi Arabia and Syria and Iran, there is a typical Muslim state. That's a Muslim theocracy.

HANNITY: Yes.

ROBERTSON: And look what the Taliban did in Afghanistan. I mean, these people were carrying out fundamental Muslim teaching.

HANNITY: So Islam is a threat bigger than what most people are willing to say publicly?

ROBERTSON: I don't think there's any question about it. And I think the sooner we confront the enemy and say look, this is the teaching these people. You know, I majored in history in college. And we learned about jihad. Mohammed declared jihad against the infidels. And he carried that thing all the way up to Bordeaux in Spain and the Ottomans, were all the way up to Hungary on the other side of Europe.

HANNITY: What is that -- what do mainstream Muslims to think when they hear what you're saying? Is it that -- I mean, because you're going right to the heart and soul of their religion. And you're saying it's predicated on these things, take neither Christians and Jews for your friends. You talk about jihad, holy war. Some people have argued on this program no, no, that's not interpreted correctly. What -- I mean, it's a pretty direct frontal attack against them. What are they to think when they hear that?

ROBERTSON: All I would say, if you read the teachings of Jesus, he talks about peace. He talks about love your enemies. He talks about do good to them that persecute you. You read the Koran, it says wage war against your enemies. Kill them if you possibly can. And destroy anybody who doesn't agree with you.

I mean, it's all laid out in the Koran. And what is called the hadif (ph), the -- you know, interpretation of what Mohammed said, that this whole thing is in my opinion, is a monumental scam, if you really understand what went on back there in the early days of Mohammed.

HANNITY: Do you think it's inevitable, then, that the world is going to be in conflict, perhaps even at war, with Islam for many decades to come?

ROBERTSON: Unless our government and the leaders recognize the threat, the answer is absolutely yes. And when you see what's done to Christians in Indonesia, for example, when you see the persecution in Saudi Arabia. Here you look at Sudan. They killed two million plus Christians because of Shiria (ph). In Nigeria right now, they're getting ready to stone a woman to death for adultery. And it just goes on and on and on, the list of horror.

COLMES: We're going to take a quick break.

ROBERTSON: Yes.

COLMES: I want to talk to you about your statement that Islam is a sham when we get back. More with Pat Robertson after this.

Later, since that brutal attack on three prison guards in August, black inmates in a California prison are being punished. Is this a blatant case of racial profiling? That's ahead on HANNITY & COLMES tonight.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

HANNITY: Still to come, a brutal attack in California in a prison leads to a crackdown on some of the inmates. But why are some people screaming racism? We'll debate that. We'll tell you about it.

First, we continue with the Reverend Pat Robertson.

Reverend, look, I hate to even say this, I don't want to even think this, but I'm really coming to the conclusion that Tom Daschle and some of the Democrats seem not to have learned a lot from September 11. There is this desire, this gullibility. They're just gullible as -- they want to believe Saddam Hussein after 12 years of lie after lie after lie. And I think that lack of wisdom makes this country vulnerable and susceptible because it allows him, buys him time to get his weapons of mass destruction.

ROBERTSON: You know, Sean, he has violated seven clear-cut resolutions of the United Nations Security Council. Not one, not two, not three, but seven of them. Not to mention the additional internal discussions along the way. He stiffed the inspectors every time. He has prevented them from discovering these weapons of mass destruction. He has an estimated 600 tons of deadly gases and biological chemical agents. Who knows how much nuclear material he's got? The Ukrainians are talking about missing 200 nuclear devices. And if they fell into his hands, we may be in deadly peril from this man. He's a madman.

HANNITY: But the left doesn't get that. They want one more chance. We've got to try to allow the inspectors in. One more time. All it does is buy him time to seek new weapons of mass destruction, allows himself to create alliances with terror groups. And if he ever gets them, he may not have the means of launching them from here, but he certainly can get them to Israel. And he certainly perhaps can get across our borders if he has, you know, alliance with a terrorist organization. They don't get it. They don't get it. They didn't get it when Reagan was fighting the Cold War. They want to abolish the CIA. The left in America doesn't get it.

ROBERTSON: Well, I've read books recently. And I'm sure you have too that go back in the history. And your own book pointed it out, some of the terrible failings of our intelligence. There's a book just out about the intelligence breakdown...

HANNITY: Yes.

ROBERTSON: ...that shows how the left, as you say, opposed virtually everything. You go back to the church...

COLMES: Oh, reverend.

ROBERTSON: ...they wanted to gut the CIA.

COLMES: First of all, Daschle and Gephardt are on the same page as the president. I showed you quotes just a few minutes ago. They're on the same page. They're not even arguing with him. We had one Democrat on tonight as a guest, who's running for office in Chicago, who's finally speaking out as some -- I think most Democrats should. They're on the same page. They're capitulating. There's not even healthy debate in this country, reverend. So to say that the left, the evil horrible left is doing the wrong thing, is just not accurate.

ROBERTSON: Well, you know, they know how to put their finger up in the wind and the voters...

COLMES: Oh, come on. You didn't do any polling when you were running for president? You didn't do any polling when you were running for president?

ROBERTSON: Well, of course you do polling, but they have polled. And they've got the control of the Senate at stake. And they know they'll lose.

COLMES: Yes?

ROBERTSON: And the Republicans are beating them up all over the country, in South Dakota, in Iowa, and Georgia, and...

COLMES: We'll see in a few days. Let me show you something you said, the last time you appeared on HANNITY & COLMES. Let's take a look.

ROBERTSON: All right.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ROBERTSON: Liberals always lie.

COLMES: Oh, please. Come on.

ROBERTSON: They always lie.

COLMES: Come on, that's not...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COLMES: What -- Pat, what would Jesus say about that kind of a comment? Liberals always lie?

HANNITY: Amen.

COLMES: Jesus has spoken. Ladies and gentlemen, Jesus has spoken.

HANNITY: He'd say amen.

COLMES: He's come back. He's sitting next to me. We have just seen the second coming. Go ahead.

ROBERTSON: You know, Jesus spoke to the Pharisees. He called them whitewashed tombs. And he said you know, you always speak a falsehood. So he talked about the devil being a liar and the father of lies. So he said some pretty rough words as well.

COLMES: All right. Is that -- do you want to interpret that as anti- liberal, bigotry? You make a blanket statement, liberals lie? Is that -- that's not a Christian like thing to say.

ROBERTSON: Well, it's not Christian but it's true.

HANNITY: It's true.

ROBERTSON: You know...

COLMES: Come on. All liberals lie? They all lie. I'm a liar?

ROBERTSON: Oh yes, they lie from time to time. They don't necessarily lie in every word they say...

COLMES: Wow.

ROBERTSON: ...but their general premise is based on falsehood, so often.

COLMES: Reverend, that seems to me like a lack of critical thinking to make such a blanket statement like that about an entire group of people. I am personally hurt. I'm very sensitive, you know. You hurt my feelings.

HANNITY: Aw.

ROBERTSON: They're diminishing -- I'm not sure, you won't even be in that camp. You're too nice a person to be associated with the...

COLMES: All right, this idea -- and about Islam, you say that Islam is scam.

ROBERTSON: Yes.

COLMES: You're insulting the largest religion on the planet, an entire group of people, when you make a statement like you did in the last segment. Islam is a scam. Do you want to qualify that?

ROBERTSON: Can I tell you why? Can I tell you why?

COLMES: Yes.

ROBERTSON: You've heard of mecca. Mecca, there is a black stone. Mohammed's father and grandfather were keeper of 360 sacred rocks at mecca. And they said there was a meteor or something that fell out of the sky. And the most important deity in mecca was the moon god. And he was the same god that was you know, Ur of Kaldez (ph) when Abraham was up there. And his name was Allah. And he had three daughters. And you remember that the Koran that he wrote into the Koran that he thinks that we should worship those three daughters, and then disciples got after him. So he took the (UNINTELLIGIBLE). And Salman Rushdie wrote about the satanic verses.

This whole thing was situational. It took about 20 years to write the entire Koran. 80 percent of it comes from the Jewish and Christian scriptures. He mentions Moses 500 times in the Koran. I mean, it is strictly a theft of Jewish theology. And then he turned around and he murdered all the Jews in Medina. I mean, this man was a killer. And to think that this is a peaceful religion is fraudulent. It just is. I wish people would read the Koran itself and see what it says, because they'd be shocked.

HANNITY: All right, Reverend Robertson, always good to see you. You know what might be a good idea? I think maybe we should you bring back. And I think we need a live, maybe a half hour, an hour debate on the topic. And I don't know if you'd be willing to do that, but I think it would be very informative for our viewers.

ROBERTSON: Well, I think it's one of those things we've got to wake people up before somebody else blows up another tower or hits another military installation.

HANNITY: Reverend Robertson, thank you...

ROBERTSON: Thank you.

HANNITY: ...as always for being with us. Appreciate you being here.

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KEYWORDS: cair; foxnews; hannity; islam; islamophobia; patrobertson; wahhabilobby
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1 posted on 09/19/2002 7:14:35 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: Stultis
tough
2 posted on 09/19/2002 7:15:30 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Stultis
Isn't a man entitled to an opinion? While I may not agree with everything Pat Robertson says, I will defend his right to speak!
3 posted on 09/19/2002 7:16:58 PM PDT by marvlus
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To: Stultis
Fox News is balance to ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBC
4 posted on 09/19/2002 7:17:59 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: Stultis
By their words and deeds, They earned the reputation
5 posted on 09/19/2002 7:19:37 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Stultis
Attacking Islam theologically the way it was here is not very constructive (e.g., the "theft" of Jewish theology stuff, which I doubt Jews would appreciate either, and borrowing between religions is hardly limited to Islam, and so what?), but Fox is a mere conduit. The personalities that said what they said should be the object of the ire, not Fox. But attacking Fox gets more notice.
6 posted on 09/19/2002 7:19:45 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Stultis
They're not gonna like tonight's show either. (I say TS!)
7 posted on 09/19/2002 7:19:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: Stultis
So which of Robertson's remarks in this story is anything but the truth?
8 posted on 09/19/2002 7:20:16 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: Stultis
Venomous and hate-filled remarks like those made by Robertson, and Sean Hannity's failure to challenge those remarks, poison the minds of ordinary viewers and can incite acts of violence against American Muslims," said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad.

You mean like using airplanes to kill 3,000 people at a time?
Clearly it is the hatred of radical Muslims that is behind the most horrific and evil acts we see these days.
Not "ordinary viewers" of Hannity and Colmes.

9 posted on 09/19/2002 7:20:38 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Stultis
CAIR has a long way to go to redeem itself from its own history of supporting terrorist movements, and failing to address anti-semitism and calls for violence among moslems.
10 posted on 09/19/2002 7:22:28 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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To: Stultis
Sometimes the truth hurts...
11 posted on 09/19/2002 7:23:00 PM PDT by inflorida
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To: Stultis
Check the history. Robertson's facts about the militant Muhammad are accurate. He was not a peacefull prophet. This does not mean the all Muslems adhere to this belief, but it cannot be denied.
12 posted on 09/19/2002 7:23:34 PM PDT by SoggyBottomBoy
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To: Stultis
Tough potatoes!! CAIR is biased against America! They're a bunch of terrorist sympathizer scumbags who need to be rounded up and deported to Greenland in the dead of winter.
13 posted on 09/19/2002 7:24:04 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Stultis
What I wrote to Mr. Ailes.

Dear Mr. Ailes, I just wanted to write and thank you and your network for having the courage to provide fair and balanced coverage regarding various Islaminazi organizations. Your organization provides dissemination of facts that others are afraid to consider, and exposes truth that is sometimes hard for Islaminazi propaganda machines to recognize because they are devoted to a religous dogma that doesn't allow dissent or criticism of their faith. Keep up the good work! Fox News is my source for coverage of stories that others shy away from. A devoted news junkie, devoted to the truth.

Unfraid of the truth, I declare with a loud voice "the emporer has no clothes!"

14 posted on 09/19/2002 7:25:14 PM PDT by PokeyJoe
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To: habs4ever
Frankly my swarthydear, I don't give a CAIR!
15 posted on 09/19/2002 7:26:56 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: Stultis
Yo, CAIR, here comes the Waaaaaahmbulance!
16 posted on 09/19/2002 7:27:22 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Stultis
CAIR is right!!!! We should follow the example that the Arab/Muslim countries have set for religious tolerance and.. uh...er... um ... oh! Didn't they just publish an article about blood libel and the Jews or something like that? Oh and don't they persecute those who don't believe like they do, and even kill them. Oh, well it sure is nice of them to make the trip ALL the way over here to tell us that how we are intolerant
17 posted on 09/19/2002 7:28:35 PM PDT by feedback doctor
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To: Stultis
"Anti-Muslim hate". Boo-freakin'-hoo.

They don't know what the word means. Yet.


18 posted on 09/19/2002 7:28:45 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: big ern
CAIR doesn't mind the pro-Palestinian CNN.
19 posted on 09/19/2002 7:29:06 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Ahban
Islam really isn't a rip off of Judiasm. The only thing even remotely close to it is the concept of monotheism.

It has pagan origins [allah is the arabic name for 1 god, who was the greatest of the 365 gods of arabian paganism. Original name is il-Ilahi and he was the god of war, spear, and arrow], but theologically it is a heresy of Catholicism.

20 posted on 09/19/2002 7:29:54 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: blam; Stultis
Robertson was on a tear last night. Shows to some extent the depth of the anger out there and what a poor job CAIR has done since last year.

THey're now paying the price for losing credibility with Americans due to the prevaricating mediapeople they've showcased on TV.

Debbie S. was great. On tonight's show mentioned Sheikh Kabbani as a shining example and good guy.
21 posted on 09/19/2002 7:30:50 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: nhoward14
You're right, it does take all those stations to balance out FoxNews. Hannity is a zealot PR hack and Colmes is a mere whipping boy.
22 posted on 09/19/2002 7:31:11 PM PDT by Hard_Pill_To_Swallow
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To: Stultis
CAIR: "Mr. Ailes: This kind of conduct would never be tolerated in a nation that has bent to Allah's will, by accepting the Religion of Peace! Heads would roll!"
23 posted on 09/19/2002 7:32:01 PM PDT by LRS
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To: Hard_Pill_To_Swallow
Precisely. You have to watch all of those stations to get the same amount of useful information that you get from FNC.
24 posted on 09/19/2002 7:35:00 PM PDT by nhoward14
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To: Joe Brower
That's what they don't understand. It's puzzling to me; don't they realise how bad things could really get?
Wouldn't they wish to appear more a part of America.
Even if they didn't really believe it, but just to 'blend' in. But they obviously cannot do so. They keep accusing Americans without trying to understand at all why American opinion is the way it is.

It's all been small stuff (mainly) so far and more non-muslims were killed (albeit only a few - dozen or less, but dead is dead) immediately after last September's Attacks.

If.....


25 posted on 09/19/2002 7:37:15 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: JMJ333
What do you mean it's not a rip off of the Torah? I would think changing the heir of promise from Isaac to Ishmael is very much a rip off and turning the word of God to a lie.
27 posted on 09/19/2002 7:41:06 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: AllSmiles
Islam: Monumental Scam. God bless Pat Robertson for having the courage to tell it like it is.
28 posted on 09/19/2002 7:42:41 PM PDT by gg188
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To: Stultis
Subj: CAIR's e-assault on Fox Muslim coverage
Date: 9/19/2002 10:39:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Brian
To: roger.ailes@foxnews.com, cair@cair-net.org,
brian.lewis@foxnews.com, robert.zimmerman@foxnews.com,
meade.cooper@foxnews.com, bill.shine@foxnews.com,
hannity@foxnews.com, colmes@foxnews.com,
comments@foxnews.com, Viewerservices@foxnews.com
CC: @cs.com, @excite.com, @hotmail.com, @olypen.com,
@msn.com, @msn.com

I appreciate FoxNews' coverage of Islam.

They have been fair and balanced. Furthermore if subscribers of that religion cannot withstand hard questions asked or obvious points being made about it's founders or current doctrine then perhaps it is they who need to take a second look and not the executives at the Fox Network.

Brian
Lynchburg, Virginia

29 posted on 09/19/2002 7:43:36 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: Stultis
I liked this little snippet:

ROBERTSON: Liberals always lie.

COLMES: Oh, please. Come on.

ROBERTSON: They always lie.

COLMES: Come on, that's not...

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COLMES: What -- Pat, what would Jesus say about that kind of a comment? Liberals always lie?

HANNITY: Amen.

COLMES: Jesus has spoken. Ladies and gentlemen, Jesus has spoken.

HANNITY: He'd say amen.
30 posted on 09/19/2002 7:44:21 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: MJY1288
That's right. I went to the cair site via this thread.
Interesting how they keep a count of all incidents
against Muslims. Maybe someone should post the list of
all the acts of terrorism, all done by followers of Islam.











31 posted on 09/19/2002 7:44:22 PM PDT by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: MissAmericanPie
I'm going to give you a link to my point of view. But I'm going to send it in a freepmail with an explanation of why I'm not going to post it on the thread.
32 posted on 09/19/2002 7:45:57 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: Stultis
because Islam is a fake false religion and needs to be banned in this country.
33 posted on 09/19/2002 7:46:43 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Stultis
Mohammedanism is a Christian heresy. Mohammed was a heretic. We should all pray for God to convict Mohammed's followers and effect a reconciliation of all Islam with the Church as soon as God wills it.

That being said: this planet isn't big enough for two dominant cultures. It's Us or Them -- Christianity or Islam. I know which one I pick.

Oh, yeah -- with all due respect to Mr. Robertson: the last time I checked, Bordeaux was in France, not Spain.

Yours in Christian Fraternity,

B-chan


34 posted on 09/19/2002 7:46:44 PM PDT by B-Chan
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To: Jorge; Travis McGee; Torie
To quote the Great American, wonderful and insightful, TRAVIS McGEE.....

"What kind of sick twisted 'religion' promises an eternity of fornicating with young virgins as a reward for the mass murder of nonbelieving women and children?"

35 posted on 09/19/2002 7:47:56 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Stultis
"....can incite acts of violence against American Muslims," said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad."

Beavis: "hey Butthead, come look this guys name is Awad"

Butthead: "heh heh heh...heh heh heh heh...."

36 posted on 09/19/2002 7:48:28 PM PDT by gorebegone
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
"Maybe someone should post the list of all the acts of terrorism, all done by followers of Islam."

I'm hoping GWB is keeping that list.

37 posted on 09/19/2002 7:49:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: MJY1288
Allows? Does CAIR not know we have freedom of speech in this country.

You know what, it is time for people to START telling the truth about this so called "war on terrorism."

It is a war OF terrorism; it is a war of Islam versus the entire western civilization.

And they intend to win.

38 posted on 09/19/2002 7:49:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: AllSmiles
look at his eyes the eyes of hate
39 posted on 09/19/2002 7:50:37 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: feedback doctor
LOL!!
40 posted on 09/19/2002 7:51:03 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: inflorida
"Sometimes the truth hurts... "

retaliation hurts...
the truth....shall set you free

41 posted on 09/19/2002 7:51:33 PM PDT by hoot2
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To: JMJ333

Americans have been deluded into spouting the Soccer-Momism about Islam being a "religion of peace." Actually, reading would provide dozens upon dozens of contrary examples from the last year alone.

ANN COULTER
42 posted on 09/19/2002 7:52:05 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
Maybe someone should post the list of all the acts of terrorism, all done by followers of Islam.

You got a Cray supercomputer just laying around ? If you do we can start that project.

43 posted on 09/19/2002 7:56:56 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: SoggyBottomBoy
This does not mean the all Muslems adhere to this belief, ...

If they don't adhere to this belief would they still actually be muslims?

44 posted on 09/19/2002 7:57:36 PM PDT by templar
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To: TLBSHOW
I like Ann. And have decided that I agree with conversion theory. However, Islam does not say or promise peace toward infidels when it talks about being a religion of peace. Here is a good definition of the meaning, and it shows what happens when one believes false doctrines. Things go haywire. From Gabriel Oussani: Grammatically, the word Islam is the infinitive of the so-called fourth verbal form of the regular intransitive stem salima, "to be safe", "to be secure", etc. In its second verbal form (sallama) it means "to make some one safe" and "to free", "to make secure", etc. In its third form (salama), it signifies "to make peace", or "to become at peace", i.e. to be reconciled". In its fourth form (aslama), the infinitive of which is islam, it acquires the sense of "to resign", "to submit oneself" or "to surrender".

Hence Islam, in its ethico-religious significance, means the "entire surrender of the will to God."

So the peace they are claiming is for themselves. Not to us.

47 posted on 09/19/2002 8:00:14 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: JMJ333
Islam really isn't a rip off of Judiasm.

Where did the Quaran come from? I've heard it claimed that it was written for mohammed by a jewish rabbi hired for the purpose (don't know if this is true or not, but no one ever sems to challenge the idea). It seems like it is recent enough in history that its' origins should be documentable.

48 posted on 09/19/2002 8:01:31 PM PDT by templar
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To: Stultis
Well, if they needed an expert opinion on religious BIGOTRY, they sure went to a reputable source in Pat Robertson.
49 posted on 09/19/2002 8:01:52 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Stultis
I don't know about the 'wild-eyed fanatic' part, but it is the historical record that Mohammed lead raids on merchant caravans (brigand) and murdered people (500 men of the Jewish Quresh tribe). Please notice that CAIR doesn't dispute what Pat Robertson said, they just called his comments 'venomous and hate-filled', but not untruthful.
50 posted on 09/19/2002 8:04:13 PM PDT by Kermit
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