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ALERT: Hurricane Isidore forecasted to have at least 150 MPH winds within 72 hours

Posted on 09/21/2002 3:05:23 PM PDT by newsperson999

Statement as of 5:00 PM EDT on September 21, 2002

Air Force recon data indicate major Hurricane Isidore has continued to rapidly strengthen and the central pressure has dropped 21 mb in the past 13 hours. A pressure of 946 mb generally corresponds to a maximum wind of about 117 kt. However...the eye is open to the west and there may be a lag in the wind field. Also...dropsonde data indicated about 105 kt surface winds...but winds just a few hundred above the surface have been as high as 130 kt. The three satellite agencies reported a Dvorak satellite intensity estimate of t6.0...or 115 kt...while the 3-hour objective Dvorak T-number was also t6.0. Based on this information...the initial intensity was increased to 110 kt.

The initial motion estimate is 270/3. Recon fix positons since about 12z indicate Isidore has actually remained nearly stationary the past 6 hours...but right over some of the hottest water in the Atlantic Basin. Steering currents remain weak and are forecast by all of the global to remain weak or even get weaker. Isidore remains caught between a mid- to upper-level low east of Florida and one to the west over the Bay of Campeche. A weak and narrow low- to mid-level ridge extends across the northern Gulf of Mexico coast from Florida westward to Texas. Given the relative weakness of this ridge...only 5880 meters at 500 mb...it would not take much of a shortwave trough to erode it and allow Isidore to drift slowly poleward. All of the NHC model guidance...except LBAR...keeps Isidore moving on a slow west or west-southwest track through the forecast period. The AVN and GFDL are very similar in hooking Isidore to the southwest around the western Yucatan Peninsula in 36 to 48 hours. This may be some artifact of terrain interaction which I have ignored for this advisory package since all of the global models show no significant ridging north of isiodre to push the system to southwest. The forecast calls for a slow...less than 6 kt...motion throughout the forecast period with a slight west-northwestward motion after 48 hours as a strong shortwave trough drops down the west side of the broad longwave trough...which is expected to erode the weak ridge over Texas and the northwest Gulf of Mexico and allow Isidore to gain some latitude. However... the slower Isidore moves during the next 36 to 48 hours will determine just how far north and the cyclone will move in the longer time periods beyond 72 hours. The good news is that it appears that Isidore is not going to go anywhere fast. The bad news is that it will remain over very hot water.

The central pressure has dropped 21 mb in the past 13 hours. A typical rapid intensification period. This trend would normally continue for another 12 hours or so...but radar and recon data indicate that the eye is open to the west and that an eyewall replacement cycle may be starting. As such...the official intensity forecast is held below the ships intensity model which brings Isidore to 135 kt in 36 hours and 140 kt in 60 hours. This type of intensification is certainly possible given the low shear...less than 6 kt...and high SSTs...about 30c/86f. However...predicting internal convective changes is nealry impossible so there could be flucuations by as much 10 kt either way from the offical intensity forecast. Some coastal upwelling may weaken the hurricane slightly as it moves west of 88w longitude...but then some restrengtnening is forecast after 48 hours when Isidore is forecast to move back over warmer water.

Forecaster Stewart

forecast positions and Max winds

initial 21/2100z 21.9n 86.2w 110 kts
12hr VT 22/0600z 21.9n 87.0w 120 kts
24hr VT 22/1800z 21.9n 88.0w 125 kts
36hr VT 23/0600z 21.9n 89.2w 125 kts
48hr VT 23/1800z 22.0n 90.3w 125 kts
72hr VT 24/1800z 22.5n 92.5w 130 kts


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To: NautiNurse; Marine Inspector
Might be better to send them to Marine Inspector. I think he's Border Patrol, so his job is to send things back to Mexico!
181 posted on 09/21/2002 8:13:23 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Dog Gone
I am noticing no concentric eyewall on the Cancun radar either....a major difference from earlier, something I would not have noticed before. I learned something today about hurricanes.....:)
182 posted on 09/21/2002 8:17:29 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Dog Gone
The models were showing this....some still do, but they all still show it turning north in the end anyway, so if it does head down into the BOC, don't lose your guard.
183 posted on 09/21/2002 8:19:29 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Diddle E. Squat
?????
184 posted on 09/21/2002 8:19:40 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: NautiNurse
I'm sorry, but you MOVE into the Eye of the Tiger then you deserve what you get.Tar-Heel right?
185 posted on 09/21/2002 8:19:53 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Wash out the water thieves, and refill Amistad Resevoir.

That would be ideal. Hitting about 100 miles south of Brownsville would be perfect. Safe but wet.

By Tuesday, we'll probably get our first decent strike maps with probabilities. Until then, it's a crap shoot.

186 posted on 09/21/2002 8:21:12 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: newsperson999
i guess this is the ONLY positive to living in nys. we don't get weather like this.
187 posted on 09/21/2002 8:22:07 PM PDT by bandlength
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To: rwfromkansas
Good point. It's going to be easy for people to get suckerpunched by this storm. It's Chamber of Commerce weather here on the Gulf Coast today, and it will be for the rest of this week. The storm seems to be barely moving, and the only people watching it closely are the experts and a few people on FR who obviously have no date on a Saturday night. ;-)

I'll keep watching this one until it comes ashore or the power goes out, whichever is first.

188 posted on 09/21/2002 8:29:05 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Bad~Rodeo
I'm not completely sure what you meant by your comment.

In 1996, I lived in NC--150 miles inland when Hurricane Fran hit. Had 6 trees on my roof for 105 days because my damage wasn't as bad as the rest.

In 1989, Hurricane Hugo bombed Charlotte NC--where thousands of coastal residents had fled. It was still classified a hurricane over 200 miles from the coast.

and your point is?

189 posted on 09/21/2002 8:30:10 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: Dog Gone
ROFL!!! I thought you might say "or if I go out on a date"
190 posted on 09/21/2002 8:33:43 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: Dog Gone
When you have a wife of 20 years on saturday night your date is FR.That was a no brainer dog gone.
191 posted on 09/21/2002 8:35:04 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: NautiNurse
My point is simple, instead of moving inland you CHOSE to head further South (Florida,) knowing that hurricanes along the Gulf Coast was an annual occurence
192 posted on 09/21/2002 8:38:13 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To: eastforker
I guess I could have watched that Goldie Hawn moviethon with my wife this evening, instead of being on FR.

But I would've eventually gouged my own eyes out.

193 posted on 09/21/2002 8:40:57 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Bad~Rodeo
looks like it's looping SW now
194 posted on 09/21/2002 8:43:45 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: Dog Gone
sometimes,it is much more pleasant here,even if you have to put up with-----&------,since we can't name names anymore.
195 posted on 09/21/2002 8:44:38 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: Dog Gone
lol...yeah I would rather be on a date right now...:)

But, I doubt that will happen anytime soon..:(

Girls don't go for the real quiet types like myself unless they are also real good looking.
196 posted on 09/21/2002 8:45:08 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: newsperson999
yep..may just be a jog, but will have to keep an eye on it
197 posted on 09/21/2002 8:45:46 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Bad~Rodeo
instead of moving inland you CHOSE to head further South (Florida,) knowing that hurricanes along the Gulf Coast was an annual occurence

you have stated a fact, now make your point.

198 posted on 09/21/2002 8:47:19 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: newsperson999

199 posted on 09/21/2002 8:48:33 PM PDT by Orion78
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To: Dog Gone
BTW,got my eye on a 42 foot Gibson houseboat,twin 302 merc cruisers,being rebuilt as we speak,for only 11,000,wife and I are thinking about it and BTW it is realy clean.
200 posted on 09/21/2002 8:49:29 PM PDT by eastforker
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