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To: Cachelot
Oh. Just that a lot of folks on that board hate Reagan with a vengeance (they tend to call him "RayGun"), just as they hate Republicans, Jews, the rule of law, and a number of other things. In contrast they love Arabs, Stormfront, StrikeTheRoot, Matt Giwer, Ernst Zundel and every Canadian loon at large.

Huh. Well, I don't "hate" Reagan, but I do feel sorry for him now that he has lost his sense and can't tell the difference between his own wife and a a stalk of asparagus. I do wonder if his mental deterioation might have played a part in his *singularly bad* decision to allow anthrax and other bioogical weapons to be exported to Saddam, which is, after all, the topic of this thread. ANytime you want to get on topic, feel free.

Now, of the other items in this list you have rattled off: oddly enough I do remember the alternate spelling of "Raygun" from my misspent youth as a fan of Southern California punk rock. Hating Jews, Republicans and the rule of law, though? It is not all clear to me how this things are comnnected, and as for the rest of the items in this list you rattle off ("StrikeTheRoot, Matt Giwer, Ernst Zundel") I have never heard of these foks so if you want to elaborate and actually have something to contribute to the discussion, please do so, otherwise please keep it in your pants, as they say.

Would you care to connect the dots between your Clinton picture and your Bush picture?

Sure. You will notice that both are flashing the "devil horns" sign used by adolescent headbangers everywhere. This is a mocking reference to the idea that both are party to some sort of NWO conspiracy. Actually, we need posit no "conspiracy," simply read the consitution and take note of the items in the Bill of rights that have been abrogated or severely weakened under Bush and Clinton both and you will understand that it is simply the growth of the Federal goverment, which, having acquired the taste for power, simply wants more of the same.

As an AMerican who respects and has read the constitution i am naturally disturbed by this, but i also feel free to make fun of it too.

WHich brings up back to the topic at hand - if reagan had been in his right mind, perhaps he would not have exported anthrax to Iraq or allowed the CIA to arm and train Osama Bin Laden & his followers.

If Reagan had had his wits about him, perhaps Saddam and Osama would never have become so dangerous, and we would still enjoy the full protection of the cojnstitution, instead of having to submit to this "Patriot Act," which basically guts the 4th & 6th amendments and severely weakens the 1st amendment too.

18 posted on 09/24/2002 1:02:46 PM PDT by eshu
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To: eshu
Actually, while I was one of the naysayers (to a point) when Reagan's policies were revealed, there was an interesting hearing on cspan last night. It was with Hamzi (sp?) the Iraqi nuke engineer.

To make a long story short and relevant, commerce was giving the green light to dual-use shipments, and insisting that defense should not be involved in the decision. In hindsight, defense would have raised (according to testimony) red flags not on any particular shipment, but on certain combinations.

Reagan was at the helm, however, so he does share the flack; but subsequent presidents also share in the mess, along with their staffs, their state departments, their defense departments, etc.

In short, I disagreed and still disagree with some of Reagan's (et al) policies in the ME, but not to the point of assuming they were idiotic.

19 posted on 09/24/2002 1:19:19 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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