Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Mark Steyn: I say monger away, baby
National Post (Canada) ^ | 09/27/2002 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 09/27/2002 11:22:13 AM PDT by Pokey78

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041 next last
To: monkeyshine
You have been added.
21 posted on 09/27/2002 12:45:55 PM PDT by Pokey78
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
As always, Steyn is brilliant and his style is endearing ... endearing to those of us enamored of truth, facts, and other such things that are anathema to the left.

Thanks Pokey for keeping up the list, which must be getting ponderous about now ... lots of Steyn fans at FR.
22 posted on 09/27/2002 12:46:12 PM PDT by spodefly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop
Oddly enough, the same tolerant crowd that's so quick to smear conservatives with the "racist" libel, is very supportive of Islamist nazis, who are today's true racists

Is it odd? You'd think it would be odd, but since the "tolerant crowd" has very little reason and very few facts on their side, and because they are defined by their emotionalism and their arrogant superiority complexes and self-denied self-loathing, all they really have to use in the war of words is name-calling to protect the noble brown-skin savage who they feel has been exploited & supressed by rich white colonials. Nevermind that, as you said, the real racists are those who want no Jews, no Christians, no white immigrants and no other religion. It's OK for them to be racist because that is their reaction to us forcing modernity and western ideals on their primitive (read: superior) cultures, and it's just a little payback we deserve.

23 posted on 09/27/2002 12:52:34 PM PDT by monkeyshine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: spodefly
262 and growing!
24 posted on 09/27/2002 12:54:20 PM PDT by Pokey78
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Make that 263. Thanks.
25 posted on 09/27/2002 1:11:55 PM PDT by hang 'em
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Add me too please.

Thanks.
Flashy

26 posted on 09/27/2002 1:33:13 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
We have the same kind of "you're intolerant!" leftist liberal chorus here in the states, whenever someone starts stating facts about Islam in the modern world. Look at what happens when Franklin Graham makes a statement.

I'm with Steyn. Monger me some more. I'm done with political correctness, and don't really care if someone calls me a racist. I'm not a racist - but I am a culturalist, and the culture of "The American Way" beats Islamic "culture" (misogyny, true intolerance, violence towards non-believers, etc) to a pulp.

Regarding the liberals, I quote Edmund Stoiber of Germany: "There must always be a difference between tolerance and stupidity". My tolerance quota is long ago all used up.

27 posted on 09/27/2002 1:47:49 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
As I said in my original column, many of the young Muslims in western Europe exhibit the worst traits of both Islam and the West.

I wonder if this can be attributed to western Europe's post-Christian status? Having consumed their capital, devoured their seed corn, what positive alternative do the oh, so, suave euroweenies have to offer their new immigrants?

28 posted on 09/27/2002 2:00:56 PM PDT by TomSmedley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Aric2000
I love Steyn, he seems to be back in the groove again. Those ones a couple of weeks back, I was little worried about his sanity.

Some of you folks are funny. Steyn cites crime statistics and Tam calls him a hate-monger. Steyn writes mild criticism of Mr. Bush and you worry about his sanity.

29 posted on 09/27/2002 2:01:08 PM PDT by WarrenC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
262 and growing!

Please make that 263!

30 posted on 09/27/2002 2:03:30 PM PDT by TomSmedley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Steyn RULES!!!
31 posted on 09/27/2002 2:11:02 PM PDT by dennisw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: monkeyshine; ipaq2000; Lent; veronica; Sabramerican; beowolf; Nachum; BenF; angelo; ...
ping
32 posted on 09/27/2002 2:13:50 PM PDT by dennisw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
But, when you insist someone's a "hatemonger" even for mentioning these awkward demographic trends, you're just trying to shut down the debate.

Isn't this Ann Coulter's thesis for "Slander"?

33 posted on 09/27/2002 2:21:05 PM PDT by HIDEK6
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scholar; Bullish
Ping
34 posted on 09/27/2002 2:26:36 PM PDT by knighthawk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Brian Allen
Yes he does !! I can hear Hope sayin' this too !

This is in line, incidentally, with the general emotionalism of the anti-war crowd. This week, The Guardian in London accused Mr. Bush for the umpteenth time of "arrogance." So what if he is? Jacques Chirac's arrogant, so's John Ralston Saul, and Pierre Trudeau, and Bob Hope. "Humility? I pass." That was Bob, but it could just as easily have been Pierre or John or Jacques. Ol' man Yasser struck me as pretty arrogant when he was squawking away to CNN's Christiane Amanpour ("You have to be accurate when you are speaking with General Yasser Arafat! Be quiet!") and then hung up on her. But, even if he were charmingly modest and endearingly sheepish, it wouldn't change my view of him: His manner is not the issue.

35 posted on 09/27/2002 2:50:08 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
"The immigrant information group IOF runs classes for Muslim
fathers to help them give sexual advice to their sons."

BTW I wonder what this advice is??

Education is the key of most social problems as the left said in the early days of the AIDS epidemic education will cure this. After 20 years of education on AIDS the disease still spreads because of sexual perversion in the highly educated and affluent San Francisco gay community.

It is difficult to educate sexual deviants as we find with child molesters who after they serve their sentences are kept in prison because they cannot control themselves.

Strong law enforcement and harsh sentences work much better.
36 posted on 09/27/2002 3:36:54 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hang 'em; Flashman_at_the_charge; TomSmedley
You 3 make it 265.
37 posted on 09/27/2002 4:17:43 PM PDT by Pokey78
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: BeAllYouCanBe
"The immigrant information group IOF runs classes for Muslim
fathers to help them give sexual advice to their sons."

BTW I wonder what this advice is??

"Never touch the moist shaded treasure trove of Aphrodite,
that delicate grotto of love, with your left hand."?
38 posted on 09/27/2002 4:28:36 PM PDT by tet68
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: dennisw
"Why do immigrants rape out of all proportion to their numbers? Denmark, being a famously "tolerant," "humane" and indeed "liberated" society, is unsure. Copenhagen University's leading criminologist thinks we need more outreach. "Over the last five-10 years there has been an increasing tendency to marginalize and alienate immigrants," says Professor Flemming Balvig. "As a result, many second generation immigrants have reacted against this through various types of criminal activity, including rape." The immigrant information group IOF runs classes for Muslim fathers to help them give sexual advice to their sons. "When kids go into a kiosk to buy chewing gum, they are confronted with pornography on every shelf ... This sort of thing just doesn't exist in the societies they come from, so somebody has to talk to these youngsters and teach them how to deal with it," says Muslim leader Souhail Ibrahim. Babar Baig of the Muslim Youth League says it is the duty of all Muslims to get to the bottom of "this abnormal behaviour and moral depravity." "Abnormal"? "Moral depravity"? Hear that, Mr. Tam? The guy sounds like a National Post windbag."

Ha! Nowhere in the world is the status of women better illustrated than in Muslim countries where women are being beaten, raped and mugged. According to the Koran (and hence God) women are psychologically inferior to men; and man was the original creation. Woman was created secondarily for the pleasure and repose of man. The Koran also maligns women by attributing guile, deceit and treachery as intrinsic to a woman's nature. Not only is she unwilling to change, she is by nature incapable of changing -- she has no choice. Muhammad himself is reputed to have said: "If it had not been for Eve, no woman would have been unfaithful to her husband."

The Koran has more to say on the position of women than on any other social question. Words like "Women are your tillage," and the word for marriage is the one used for the sexual act. The primary object of marriage is the propagation of children, and partly for this a man is allowed four wives at a time and an unlimited number of concubines. The husband pays the woman a dowry at the time of marriage, and he may divorce his wife at any time, but he can't take her back until she has remarried and been divorced by a second husband. Only after three divorces can a Muslim man not take back his wife. However, he can say, "I divorce thee" three times but, a woman can't sue for divorce on any grounds, and her husband may beat her.

"But if he who oweth the debt is of low understanding, or weak or unable himself to dictate, then let the guardian of his interests dictate in (terms of) equity. And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not (at hand) then a man and two women, of such as ye approve as witnesses, so that if the one erreth (through forgetfulness) the other will remember." (Koran 2.282)

In the above verse, the testimony of two women is worth that of one man. In Islam the rule is not to accept the testimony of women alone in matters to which men theoretically have access.

Not only the word rape is missing from the Arabic language, but also the rapists are protected. For a woman to prove she has been raped, four Muslim adult males of good repute must be present to testify that sexual penetration has taken place. Furthermore, in keeping with good Islamic practice, these laws value the testimony of men over women. The combined effect of these laws is that it is impossible for a woman to bring a successful charge of rape against a man; instead, she herself, the victim, finds herself charged with illicit sexual intercourse, adultery or fornication, while the rapist goes free. If the rape results in a pregnancy, this is automatically taken as an admission that adultery or fornication has taken place with the woman's consent rather than that rape has occurred.

39 posted on 09/27/2002 11:27:07 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Pokey78
Pokey could you please add me to your "hatemonger" ping list.
40 posted on 09/30/2002 4:49:33 AM PDT by Jimmyclyde
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson