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ANTI-FLAG
ME

Posted on 09/30/2002 7:44:20 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70

Sunday morning I woke and went to Micky D’s to get my husband a big breakfast and some other kind of breakfast food (I bought myself a large coffee).

As I waited in line behind 100,000,000 other people I looked to my left and saw three boys; I’d say they couldn’t have been older than 16 years old. Description of said white punks listed below:

Boy 1: Frizzed out hair, John Lennon glasses and a jacket that was infested with pins and patches. One of those patches read: “Anti-Flag”. (this set me off)

Boy 2: Blue hair, chubby and he had a top hat on.

Boy 3: Let’s just say my cat craps bigger stool than this little twerp.

So as I was waiting in line I asked Boy 1; “What’s up with that patch, Anti-Flag?”

He said; “It’s a band.”

I said “Are you anti-American?”

The punk said; “Yes”

I said “Why?”

To which he said: “Vietnam, WWI and WWII did us no good. America kills the innocent.”

At this point my blood is boiling and I’m ready to punch this punk in the face and my food order is soon to be picked up.

I said; “I don’t give a shit what you think. When you get a job; and start paying taxes and contribute something to society your opinion doesn’t mean shit. So take your 60’s peace mentality and shove it up your ass. If you three represent the future of America, it scares me, it scares me very much. You want to want to be “anti-American”, go tell your b.s. to a United States veteran who fought for the very freedom you have.” (….I wanted to go on but I had to pick up my order and leave. I got a “nod” from some guy waiting in line in agreement with my confrontation with this kid.)

At that point I picked up my order, they left and I made my exit.

Is this the future of America? Anti-Flag?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: OWK; Dead Dog
MG did not defend patriotism to anyone.

She barfed out a mindless emotional outburst, with no more value than the utter silliness represented by the adolescent twit.

Then she came here and told everyone so she could get a little group-think fix...

Hey, if you are going to attack me address me directly. You have turned this thread into nothing more than OWK rant fest.

Why don’t you just go away and start your own rant thread.

FR is place where conservatives “voice” their opinions. You can say what you want but I resent the fact you attack me personally for having the guts to finally question ONE of these little commies. If you don’t like my questioning this punk’s patriotism I really don’t care.

She barfed out a mindless emotional outburst

Sounds more like your describing yourself.

As I stated before, must be a slow day at D.U.

241 posted on 09/30/2002 2:17:05 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: OWK; All
PLAY THIS REAL LOUD!

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3694/nervousbreakdown.mp3
242 posted on 09/30/2002 2:17:25 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: walkingdead
So when the lady asked him about it, why didn't he just say it was a band?

He did. From original post:

So as I was waiting in line I asked Boy 1; “What’s up with that patch, Anti-Flag?”

He said; “It’s a band.”


243 posted on 09/30/2002 2:18:31 PM PDT by MadameAxe
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To: walkingdead
What you are seeing is the self-righteousness of the Libertarian Party. They are basically Republican's who lack the social skills to actually get elected. Instead of working for change and steering the political debate in this country from within the R party, were their influence is desperately needed, they're too busy getting high on sour grapes.

I know a guy who ran as Libertarian for Congress in Texas, he was counseled by the national office to attack the Republicans, not for ideological reasons, but only for the political expediency of splitting off votes. They really are more dangerous than the left since they serve only to split votes, and keep the leftist majority in office. They have a home in the (R) party, but quite frankly, I think they are afraid of the competition. So they take their ball and go home.

Thank God for Nader and the Greens, they've really balanced the negatives for us.

Notice these guys are more offended by MG challenging this kids social statements, which are a pure product of leftist indoctrination, then by the kid claiming American servicemen are blood thirsty killers. Then, they dance around basking in their own glory. They are a similar mindset of the 60's left, just 180 degs out of phase. At least they have good philosophical points.<p.How's my speling?

244 posted on 09/30/2002 2:19:46 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: walkingdead
I'll tell you what stud. If ever, and I mean ever, I see any man punch a lady in the mouth, I'll send him to the hospital personally.

I was alluding to possible circumstances wherein if the people she had said that to were different, the outcome might have been also. Of course, I also think the whole thing was made up, as I said.

Now, about this youngster not bringing it on himself. We've all found out that this "anti-flag" is a band right?

No, 'we' hadn't. She had to inquire, remember?

So when the lady asked him about it, why didn't he just say it was a band?

Re-read the post: that's all he said.

Why did he have to go off about Americans being wrong on WWI, WWII, Vietnam, ect.?

She asked him.

Don't you think he provoked a rebuttal with his answer alone?

She was the one who initiated the conversation, not he.

Now, whether she should have cussed or not is of her own accord. I probably would have, but that's just me. Freedom of speech goes beyond being able to bash this great nation. It allows cussing too.

Hell yes it does.

245 posted on 09/30/2002 2:20:37 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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To: Pahuanui; OWK; ThomasJefferson
Bottom line, here's how I see it. Your all right in that our government has gotten way to big and out of control, I don't think you'll find anyone right-of-center that will not agree with you. Second, these punks had every right to wear their patches, and bash on the states. But if you assume that one, then you have to accept the right of this lady to do what she did, bottom line.

Oh, and my love of this country comes not from a love of a political branch, or of any one person, it comes from the cherished history behind our great country, and the potentional it has to make the world a great place.
246 posted on 09/30/2002 2:20:49 PM PDT by walkingdead
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To: MadameAxe
oops, missed that one. Hard to read when your seeing red.... thanks for the correction.
247 posted on 09/30/2002 2:22:01 PM PDT by walkingdead
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To: OWK
"And so.....??"

Just wanted to put a little cold water on all that romanticizing of guns that was going on. I'm all for gun rights, but the reality is, those rights open up yet other avenues for depriving someone else of their own rights.

248 posted on 09/30/2002 2:24:02 PM PDT by MEGoody
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To: Pahuanui; Dead Dog
Again, she came off like a pissy-pants brat, much like she describes the kids. She was on an attitude crusade.

Pissy-pants brat, huh. Again, she came off like a pissy-pants brat, much like she describes the kids. She was on an attitude crusade.

You are the one with the attitude crusade.

I’m one the “good guys”. I come off pissy because I told one these little ungrateful, anti-American punks off. More people on this thread support my view than you. So if that makes me a pissy-pants brat, so be it. I’m proud to be an American, unlike those three kids.

In addition you honesty think that had I been wearing a swastika on my jean jacket that people wouldn’t confront me? Think about it before you spew anymore of your attitude.

249 posted on 09/30/2002 2:25:36 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: Dead Dog
What you are seeing is the self-righteousness of the Libertarian Party. They are basically Republican's who lack the social skills to actually get elected.

What you are seeing here is jaw-dropping pig ignorance the Libertarian Party, the Republican Party and the nature of US elections.

Wow. I am impressed.

250 posted on 09/30/2002 2:25:42 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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To: MotleyGirl70
Hey MG70, I've been following this thread, and I believe DeadDog and I are one of only a few that are totally with you on this. So maybe you put him on your last reply by accident? Or maybe you just wanted him to see it too, since he's been sticking up for you.

Anyway, just thought I'd let you know that there are still some Americans out there that are like you. The socialist/pc machine hasn't gotten everyone quite yet.

Oh, and great meataphor on the swastika thing. Who's the last major person you can remember doing that? Charles Manson, and I don't think you'll see these people come out and defend him. Of course he wasn't really bashing America per/se, and I think that's the ones they stick up for, not the "really bad ones". (btw I feel like people bashing America are just as bad as swastika toting freeks)

*disclaimer* these views are mine and mine alone, and do not constitute the flame worthy response anyone is currently thinking of. :-)
251 posted on 09/30/2002 2:32:00 PM PDT by walkingdead
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To: walkingdead; Dead Dog
I know he's with me, that's why I posted him on that so he could see my response :)
252 posted on 09/30/2002 2:33:15 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70
Thanks for being a pissy-pants brat. We need more like you. Tell you the truth, I don't think some of your detractors are really anything close to the ideology they claim.
253 posted on 09/30/2002 2:35:44 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Pahuanui
We are all impressed, thats fer sure.

Amazing how that libertarian boggie man always jumps up just when these groupies run out of flag waving rhetoric, isn't it? Fairly boggles the mind.
254 posted on 09/30/2002 2:36:13 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Pahuanui
Do you have a better idea?
255 posted on 09/30/2002 2:37:01 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: MotleyGirl70
Pissy-pants brat, huh. Again, she came off like a pissy-pants brat, much like she describes the kids. She was on an attitude crusade.

I'm sorry, perhaps I wasn't being clear enough. Here: youcame off like a pissy-pants brat on an attitude crusade. Not anyone else, but you.

You are the one with the attitude crusade.

I’m one the “good guys”. I come off pissy because I told one these little ungrateful, anti-American punks off. More people on this thread support my view than you. So if that makes me a pissy-pants brat, so be it. I’m proud to be an American, unlike those three kids.

You might have taken the time to intelligently engage them in conversation wherein you had the possibility to expose them to your way of thinking such that you would have planted a seed. You might have got them to actually think, and reconsider their ignorant position, along with others that they may have held.

But no, you had to react to them base purely on emotion, and probably even further consolidate their juvenile positions. You had an important opportunity.

In addition you honesty think that had I been wearing a swastika on my jean jacket that people wouldn’t confront me?

Yes, people like you would confront you.

Think about it before you spew anymore of your attitude.

Yes, people like you would confront you.

256 posted on 09/30/2002 2:37:18 PM PDT by Pahuanui
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To: MotleyGirl70
Cool, that's what I was hopeing it was. Good luck MG.
257 posted on 09/30/2002 2:38:14 PM PDT by walkingdead
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To: OWK
It was just a welcome. Lay off the Zoloft. See..that was a personal attack meant to discredit your character. And what is wrong with Freepers? If you're above the fray, why are you here..again.
258 posted on 09/30/2002 2:41:17 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Pahuanui
See, it's easy for you to sit back here on Monday, go over the situation in your mind, and then come up with the "best" way to handle it. If you're an American loving citizen, then I would hope you would have said something.

Or do you suppose you would be cowering in the back of the line afraid that you might get "a mouth full of broken teeth."

See, we've became a nation of wussies, afraid to speak up for what we believe in, and that is why this nation has become so p/c. And p/c will be the death of this great nation, mark my words.
259 posted on 09/30/2002 2:43:09 PM PDT by walkingdead
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To: Pahuanui; walkingdead
In addition you honesty think that had I been wearing a swastika on my jean jacket that people wouldn’t confront me?

Yes, people like you would confront you.

Darn right I would confront it! That kid putting that on his jacket was his freedom of speech just as it is my right to question him about it. He didn’t have to answer me, but he did and his anti-American rhetoric fueled the fire. I’ve bit my tongue long enough regarding the likes of you and your ilk.

260 posted on 09/30/2002 2:47:20 PM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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