Ex-Senator (Lautenberg) to Replace Torricelli

AP via Yahoo ^ | 10/01/02 | JOHN P. McALPIN

[CyberAnt]

Yes ... democrats are allowed

Republicans are NOT!! Wanna' take any bets???

[section9]

He's certainly received "face-time" and impressed me. Maybe New Jerseyites (sp?) will just do the right thing and save our angst.

Not only that, even a partisan like Matthews indicated that Forrester would win because he's been around the track and actually won this year's primary.

Forrester will have legitimacy in the eyes of the electorate. Therein lies the difference. Lautenberg was picked because he can write a check and has name recognition. However, I think New Jerseyites will look at this the same way New Yorkers looked at Giuliani's attempt to hold on to power at the end of last year.

They won't like it.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[dead]

Naw, SCOTUS won't get into a "local" race.

In terms of jurisdiction, a Senate election is not a “local” race. The 17th amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that “The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof.” The states do not have the power to negate that statement.

The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits states from denying any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

If absentee voters, including military personnel, are denied their right to cast a valid ballot, because the NJ Supreme Court arbitrarily negates a standing election law, that would certainly give the US Supreme Court a reason to nullify the NJ SC decision.

[Bigun]

Can we add Alan Colmes to the list?

Sure! Why not?

[Howlin]

The peole who live in New Jersey live in Florida in the winter........LOL.

[cake_crumb]

"I'm going to put up a thread in a while:

DINNERS FOR BREAKING NEWS

and then

Helpful Household Hints So You Can Power Freep During Breaking News"

Great idea!! (Me, I find the crock pot to be a big help...and casseroles. As for cleaning, it's the ole FReep, dust, FReep, vacuum, FReep, etc)

[Right_in_Virginia]

"And he said that the GOP was going to look bad going in there, even if they were right on the law."

Daschle already smirked through a news conference saying: "I can't believe Republicans would deny the people of New Jersey a choice".

Oh, how I hate how following the law always makes us look bad.

[txrangerette]

I could swear I heard lawyers on TV
today with a different take. Or some
legal-type FReeper's post. I don't
know. Anyone?

[marajade]

"The peole who live in New Jersey live in Florida in the winter........LOL."

I didn't know that... Don't make me laugh...

[sneakypete]

When do I stop telling MY kids to obey the laws.

When you have accumulated enough money and status to mingle with the Bush's,the Kennedy's,the Clintons,the Dodds,and the other political elites. Laws are for me and thee,not for the ruling class.

[MileHi]

I hope your take is correct

. But I simply cannot envision the faintest legal doctrine they can find to override the law.

I invite you to read any court decision upholding most any gun control law.

FReegards, amigo.

[tomahawk]

I don't believe SCOTUS would take the case, given that it conerns a NJ state law on ballots. No federal law or Constitutional provision appears to be in issue.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits states from denying any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

I think I heard on Brit Hume's show that a few counties have already received absentee ballots back (votes).

How can they change the candidates now?

[marajade]

I'd certainly be interested to hear what Ann Coulter thinks...

[Will_Zurmacht]

I always tried to statements such as I am about to make, because I also considered the people who made them to be "wackos", but now I am starting to wonder.....

If the law no longer applies to those make the laws, the republic has died. I know it sounds crazy, but could we be witnessing the end of American democracy over the past 2 years. I never thought I would see this day. No...I am not gonna start talking about black helicopters, etc, but when we see such a blantant assault on the law, by people who swear an oath to uphold the law, what else are we to believe? Sadly, most Americans could give a d@mn about who is on the ballot legally....they're too busy watching tv to find out who gets kicked of the island this week....

[strela]

My poor husband better get used to a dirty house,no food, and a wife that mutters something about "dirty Rat-B--tards.

No way, no way. I watched my father wrap Mom around his little finger for 18 years, just because he didn't know how to boil water and wasn't interested in learning how. (Of course, there were advantages to this for us kids when we were growing up - when Mom was late getting home from work, we got chocolate cake, cookies, and ice cream for supper when Dad was home).

Hand Hubby a can opener and a Sam's card and tell him to get ta steppin' - in the kitchen. Tell him its "survival training" ;)

[Mollygal]

I think I have a winning strategy for the reps...

1) Dont't involve the US supreme court - Jeb's florida race can do without the involvement of the US supremes at this time

2) The Rep senatorial committee needs to nationalize this theme - Dems are not for your interests, they are more interested in their own power base, power grabbers, they are willing to dump whoever that's is behind the polls, and they think they are above the law, as long as they can appoint crooked judges on their side, beware the consequences.

3) In every close senate race (esp thos in the midwest - like Carnahan, Wellstone, Johnson (SD), Allard) - during the debates - ask the Dems - if you were behind in the polls, will you drop out of the race so that your party bosses can handpick the candidate, if not, what do you think about the NJ race and do you think the law is above the candidate or the candidate is above the law.

4) Make the dems look real bad in national security issues - bagdah Jim McDermott is doing the dems a real big favor, all the reps have to do is replay and replay the ABC sunday interviews - questioning the credibility of Prez Bush while giving the benefit of the doubt to Saddam - in a time of War...The dems couldn't have found a better face to show who they really when it comes to national security issue.

bottomline - the NJ race, by itself is not that important, but if the reps. senatorial campaign can make full use of the issue of fairness vs corruption or backroom deals, I bet it will pull a lot of the reps. voting the otherside come home - even a minor shift from these reps. will help to push the margins in favor of Talent, Thune, Coleman, and Allard. IF the reps only lose 1 (Hutchinson in arkansas)but gain 3 - the math will work in favor for the reps.

[cake_crumb]

"DemonCraps don't care about the law. They care about power. They will willingly murder, loot and destroy for power. Whatever it takes. The law has no value to them, if it stands in the way of their power"

After all...which party started using the phrase "no controlling legal authority" as practically a campaign slogan?

[eddie willers]

I think I heard on Brit Hume's show that a few counties have already received absentee ballots back (votes).

If that's true that should be all she wrote.

[cmsgop]

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