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Ex-Senator (Lautenberg) to Replace Torricelli
AP via Yahoo ^ | 10/01/02 | JOHN P. McALPIN

Posted on 10/01/2002 6:03:54 PM PDT by eddie willers

Ex-Senator to Replace Torricelli
Tue Oct 1, 8:52 PM ET

By JOHN P. McALPIN, Associated Press Writer

TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - Desperate to keep their single-seat majority in the Senate, Democrats have chosen former Sen. Frank Lautenberg to replace scandal-tainted Sen. Robert Torricelli ( news, bio, voting record) on the November ballot, The Associated Press has learned.

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The decision was reached Tuesday evening after a full day of meetings among top state Democrats, according to a party source familiar with the discussions.

An announcement was expected later Tuesday.

Earlier in the day, the 78-year-old Lautenberg indicated he was ready to run.

"I was there (in the Senate) 18 years, and I enjoyed virtually every day," Lautenberg said in a telephone interview from his car as he headed to the governor's mansion for meetings with top state Democrats. "I didn't like raising the money, but I'm not going to mind it as much this time, because it's kind of fresh start."

Whether Lautenberg's name will actually appear the ballot with Republican Douglas Forrester will be decided in court. Republicans say it is too late to replace Torricelli, who dropped out Monday as his poll numbers continued to fall amid questions about his ethics.

The New Jersey Supreme Court will hear arguments on the case Wednesday.

Sen. William Frist, chairman of the Senate GOP campaign committee, said Republicans would consider an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court ( news - web sites) if the New Jersey court rules in favor of the Democrats.

"This is a desperate grasp at getting around the law and the people of New Jersey are tired of having their leaders go around the law," he said.

Frist said some absentee ballots have already been cast and that other ballots have been distributed to military personnel overseas; the New Jersey Association of County Clerks said about 1,600 absentee ballots were mailed out.

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., said that by objecting to Torricelli's request, Republicans were "denying the people of New Jersey a choice" in the election.

Five months ago, Torricelli's Senate seat was considered relatively safe. But support plummeted after he was admonished by the Senate ethics committee for his relationship with a 1996 campaign supporter, and he soon became the most vulnerable incumbent in the country.

Few, however, expected a court fight five weeks before Election Day.

"This is one for the books," said Larry Sabato, a political scientist at the University of Virginia. "It will long be remembered."

Under New Jersey law, a party can replace a statewide nominee on the ballot if the person drops out at least 51 days before the election. Torricelli missed the deadline by 15 days.

However, Democrats say decades of state court decisions put voters' rights above filing deadlines and other technical guidelines.

Attorney General David Samson argued in papers filed with the court Tuesday that the justices have the power to relax the deadline to withdraw and allow Democrats to post another candidate. Samson, who was appointed to his job by Democratic Gov. James E. McGreevey, said election laws have long been interpreted liberally to allow voters every opportunity.

Legal experts agreed.

"In a substantial number of those cases, the courts have ruled on the side of being inclusive," said Richard Perr, an election law professor at Rutgers University Law School.

Six of the seven justices on the state's highest court were appointed by a former Republican governor.

Lautenberg's selection as the potential Democratic savior is replete with irony. He and Torricelli feuded openly while serving together.

"I'm not in a gloating mode," Lautenberg said. "I don't want to be smug about this. It was unfortunate for him and an unfortunate thing for all of us."

Lautenberg is a supporter of abortion rights and staunch opponent of the death penalty. He brings two major strengths to the difficult bid: statewide name recognition and a huge reserve of personal wealth he can use in the campaign. Also, unlike the House members who were also considered as substitute candidates, he does not have anything to lose by running and losing.

Lautenberg was a business executive before serving three terms in the Senate, deciding against a re-election bid in 2000. He counted among his accomplishments a law requiring companies to disclose chemicals they release into the environment, a law banning smoking on domestic flights and a law banning gun ownership by those convicted of domestic violence.


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To: formerliberal_nowconservative
Lautenberg was just shown on FOX and he seemed confused. At 78, I think they have selected someone that appears confused.

Not a problem for the dims. There will be no debates. Just a mega-financed ad campaign degrading Forrester and pumping up Lautenberg. And that's partially what sold him (Lautenberg) -- he will not have to spend his own cash. The only thing that will save NJ 'pubs is a vigorous campaign by Forrester and a healthy Republican turnout in Nov.

421 posted on 10/01/2002 9:22:38 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Smedley
It does mandate an election no, and one coincident with this general election no? Counselor, yes or no, the judge said with an edge to his voice, his eyes flashing as he went for the throat?
422 posted on 10/01/2002 9:23:20 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Miss Marple
Clinton's stink is all over this. Still trying to run the RATS, Slick Willy? Pathetic.
423 posted on 10/01/2002 9:23:43 PM PDT by jrlc
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To: eddie willers
Lautenberg's speech was awful. He sounds waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy too old to be running for office. Does he have early Alzheimer's or what?
424 posted on 10/01/2002 9:26:37 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Semper911
They have now chosen the crappiest candidate they could find so that after Torrecelli is forced to stay on the ballot, the voters will flood the polls to vote him in.

I disagree. many have decided that Toricelli is a bad guy. I don't see how this gambit favors HIM. The dims recognized this, and that is why they forced him to bow out -- to have him replaced on the ballot. Not a well-orchestrated scheme, IMO, but carefully managed damage control.

425 posted on 10/01/2002 9:26:40 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: tsomer
I do not think we will appeal. Furthermore, I think that if Lautenberg is on the ballot, we can still win. Plus, it will energize OUR voters (as it already has) and we will look noble and law-abiding as we CRUSH THEM nationally!!

That's MY take, although I really liked your flat beer-snot analogy. VERY descriptive!

426 posted on 10/01/2002 9:30:35 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: eddie willers
Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., said that by objecting to Torricelli's request, Republicans were "denying the people of New Jersey a choice" in the election.

Five months ago, Torricelli's Senate seat was considered relatively safe. But support plummeted after he was admonished by the Senate ethics committee for his relationship with a 1996 campaign supporter, and he soon became the most vulnerable incumbent in the country.

The people of New Jersey made their choice. These allegations were out there 5 months ago. This was no "October surprise". His continuing poll slump was a surprise for the Rats. That is all.

427 posted on 10/01/2002 9:32:58 PM PDT by weegee
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To: montag813
To be fair, there are conservative C^2 Sore Losermans like those Smith supporters in New Hampshire as well that deserve heat from us, too.
428 posted on 10/01/2002 9:35:08 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Chuzzlewit
Lets play the game. Use this to gain support outside NJ. or perhaps a few press leaks about the pubies replacing some losing candidates in other states with some (R) hollywierd types.
429 posted on 10/01/2002 9:35:11 PM PDT by krizzy
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To: Torie
It does mandate an election no, and one coincident with this general election no? Counselor, yes or no, the judge said with an edge to his voice, his eyes flashing as he went for the throat?

No, the statute provides for an opportunity for a governor to make a temporary appointment, then makes provisions for an election (general or special) to fill in the Senate seat for the remainder of the term.

Here, however, the term at issue ends in January and since the only possible general election is two years from now and it would take at least six months to conduct a special election, there is no way any election could timely fill Torricelli's Senate seat.

Even if Torricelli resigned tomorrow and McGreevy called for a special election within minutes, such a special election requires public notice, an opportunity to determine who should be on the ballot, dissemination of the ballot and an opportunity for absentee voters to receive and respond. Thirty days? I could keep this in the courts for thirty days just on motions.

430 posted on 10/01/2002 9:35:45 PM PDT by Smedley
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To: Chuzzlewit
The demonRats think that an election ballot is a living document.
431 posted on 10/01/2002 9:35:46 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Wphile
Linda Chavez said on Sean Hannity that of course it is a done deal. She said there is no way that Torricelli would have withdrawn unless they knew they would get a favorable ruling from the NJSC. She also said the SCOTUS will not take the case. This is a state issue.

It's still a gamble. As Gore found in 2000, it is difficult to predict a judicial decision (unless you are talking about the 9th Circuit Court in San Francisco). But this is their (dims) least risk scenario, as the polls had indicated that they were surely to lose the November election. Thus, if the election went forward,they lose. If the courts allow Lautenberg on the ballot, and he wins, they win. If the courts refuse to allow Lautenberg on the ballot, they cry havoc, defering attention from other issues, and initiate a write-in campaign. If Lautenberg wins, they win, and they have an "issue". If Lautenberg loses, they have an "issue", and in a perverse way, they win. It's painful, but yuo have to learn to think like a lowlife dim.

432 posted on 10/01/2002 9:38:16 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Smedley
You lose counselor. Motion denied. I am not going to rewrite the statute. Election officials will just have to work there asses off, including weekends. And I see no reason why if we are going to reprint the ballots, we can't get it right for that other election for the next six year term. Bang.
433 posted on 10/01/2002 9:42:13 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
There = their
434 posted on 10/01/2002 9:43:11 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Not in the Clinton Democrat Party. The Clintonista Rats create messes like this on purpose. These messes give them the ability to demagogue. Demagoguery leads to the ability to convince society that you can take what you cannot win. When you own the media, this becomes possible. It is the Clinton formula: When you lose, create a conflict (a mess), make it as messy as you can, chip away at institutions that won't do your bidding, and create the plausible impression that you are the wronged party -- the impression that your opponent has done to you what you have actually done to them. With a tuned-out, cynical and checked-out society, the meaning of the action is lost in the clutter of noise: It is a revolution, a coup-de-tat, in a different form.

Very cynically true. But credit goes to Marx/Engles, not the (rather ignonomous) sudent, Clinton.

435 posted on 10/01/2002 9:44:07 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Miss Marple; Jim Robinson
Besides, we've already caught the Dems doing a "bait and switch" on the people of NJ, and a fair number of Democrats there think it's sleazy. Lautenberg is going down as a sacrificial lamb in this one.

Everyone knows it. But they could try to reignite the FL 2000 wounds. From now on, the term "bait and switch" ought to preface the word "Democrats" until a better label comes up. Can we make it a rule?
436 posted on 10/01/2002 9:44:24 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
"bait and switch" ought to preface the word "Democrats"

Well, while we're at it we ought to insist that the RATS change their mascot from the donkey to Benedict Arnold.

437 posted on 10/01/2002 9:48:57 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: hchutch
Sure. As long as we make it those "evil" bait and switch Democrats.
438 posted on 10/01/2002 9:57:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: eddie willers
And the DemonRat's message to the Military voters (whose absentee ballots have already been sent out) again is:

"Go to Hell!"


439 posted on 10/01/2002 10:02:33 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Torie
You lose counselor. Motion denied. I am not going to rewrite the statute. Election officials will just have to work there asses off, including weekends. And I see no reason why if we are going to reprint the ballots, we can't get it right for that other election for the next six year term. Bang.

You could have the election officials work their boney butts to death, but that won't obviate the basic Constitutional requirements, federal statutes and state statutes.

Regardless, a special election commensurate with a general election is absurd. A special election refers to any election that occurs at a time not coincident with a general election. What you ask for is adding another ballot to a general election, and that's not possible under any legal theory that I am aware of in light of NJ statutes and the 17th amendment. The SCONJ cannot sua sponte create an entire election process as that would usurp the NJ legislative power provided by the U.S. Constitution.

440 posted on 10/01/2002 10:03:28 PM PDT by Smedley
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