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Wednesday, 10/2, Market WrapUp (Silver: A Time to Buy or A Time to Sell?)
Financial Sense Online ^ | 10/2/2002 | James J. Puplava

Posted on 10/02/2002 5:04:51 PM PDT by rohry

 
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by David Morgan


STORM WATCH UPDATE
Bubble Troubles Part I
Double, double, toil and trouble; fire burn and cauldron bubble.

by Jim Puplava 9/13/2002

Bubble Troubles Part II
Yes, Virginia, There IS
a Housing Bubble
by Jim Puplava 9/20/2002

Bubble Troubles Part III
It Ain't Over Yet
for the Stock Market
by Jim Puplava 9/27/2002


Nyquist Column 10/01
The Party of Obstruction

 Wednesday Market Scoreboard
 October 2, 2002

 Dow Industrials 183.18 7755.61
 Dow Utilities 3.75 214.79
 Dow Transports 89.97 2135.21
 S & P 500 20.00 827.91
 Nasdaq 26.42 1187.31
 US Dollar to Yen 122.78
 US Dollar to Euro

.9871

 Gold 0.60 322.80
 Silver -- 4.485
 Oil 0.34 30.49
 CRB Index 0.49 227.36
 Natural Gas

0.09 4.16
10/02 10/01

Change

  HUI (Amex Gold Bugs Index)

Close
YTD
121.10 122.48 1.38
85.73%
52week High 147.82

06/03/02

52week Low 59.86

11/26/01

  XAU (Philadelphia Gold & Silver)

Close
YTD
67.16

67.62

0.46
23.38%
52week High 88.65

05/28/02

52week Low 49.23

11/19/01

All market indexes


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Wednesday, October 2, 2002

Corporate Indebtedness
In his fourth and final revised edition of “The Intelligent Investor,” Ben Graham remarked on the increase of indebtedness of American corporations. In his study of company profits and earnings on capital he wrote, “The most striking figures in our table are those for the growth of corporate debt between 1950-1969. It is surprising how little attention has been paid by economists and by Wall Street to this development. The debt has expanded fivefold while their profits before taxes a little more than doubled.” I think Mr. Graham would be even more surprised, if not shocked, by how much that indebtedness has grown over the last decade. Between the years of 1995-2001, business debt jumped by $2.8 trillion, an increase of 69% over previous debt levels. The money was used to buy other companies, for mergers and increasingly to buy back stock to offset dilution of management’s stock option grants. Instead of investing in new plants, equipment and expanding the capital stock of the country, the money was used in all sorts of malinvestments.

The consequences are now unfolding as corporate defaults keep setting new records. Even more worrisome has been the downward spiral in corporate profits. It is profits and the cash flow from an enterprise that supports those debt payments. With profits in decline bankruptcies are rising. According to the Commerce Department’s latest revision of non-financial business profits, they fell from $504.5 billion in 1997 to $333.7 billion in 2001, a drop of 34%. By the first quarter of this year they fell by 42%. This is an unmitigated profit disaster and goes a long way to explaining the now rising trend in corporate debt defaults. Strangely this is given little attention in the financial press. The media and Wall Street tend to remain fixated on pro forma earnings per share, which are absolutely meaningless. In fact, all of the actual forecasts for a strong economic recovery and the constant blather on what great shape the American economy is in completely ignores this debt phenomenon. The more credit that is created, the more debt that business and consumers take on, which is applauded. The fact that very few analysts or economists pay any attention to this matter is of even greater concern.

Our economy and financial markets have run on debt so long that the consequences of a debt implosion are outside the radar screen of most analysts. Only when you get a spate of defaults, such as what we had at the beginning of the year, does it make front-page news. As quickly as it grabbed attention, it has just as quickly faded away. Yet the growth of debt related to income goes on unabated. For example, in 2001 personal income grew by $386.3 billion while personal debt expanded by $614.6 billion. During the bubble years of 1995-2000 household debts grew by $2,164 billion in comparison to household income, which grew by only $1,675 billion. Personal savings in this country are 0.2% of GDP. Americans don’t save; they just borrow money.

The fact that very few are concerned with this matter is all the more surprising. In policy debates one political pundit after another is calling for more government remedies to keep the economy out of recession. We have just gone on the largest debt and spending spree in this nation’s history. Yet nobody expects there to be a hangover.

The cost of carrying debt has fallen for most households. Rising debt burdens has offset this. In the case of businesses, credit spreads continue to widen and credit default premiums continue to rise. Signs of financial stress are everywhere, but we still hear talk about 3-4% economic growth. The recent downturn in major business indicators is signaling another economic downturn much worse than the previous recession. Consumer retrenchment will be added to business retrenchment to broaden the decline.

Now everyone is calling for the government to take action to keep the economy from falling back into recession. No one wants to experience a hangover. However, the government may be powerless to do anything about it. What can they do but reduce interest rates to zero as in Japan, or to start monetizing debt. The best thing government can do is to stand out of the way and allow the economy to cleanse itself. The government could reduce spending and reduce taxes and allow the private economy to regenerate itself. Initially there would be pain, but eventually a renewed cycle would begin that would be much sounder than the present one which is overburdened with debt. Unfortunately, lower taxes and lower spending are not in the works in a town that makes its living by redistributing wealth and expanding the public trough, so a hard recession now is inevitable.

Today in the Markets
Today’s casino results show stocks headed down again making yesterday’s rise another one-day wonder. John Crudele’s piece in yesterday’s New York Post points out a story that everyone knows on Wall Street but seldom mentions--that these one-day, two-day wonders in the stock market are often contrived affairs. The rise last week was due to hedge fund and money managers trying to drive the markets up so quarterly performance would look a tad better. Those efforts were a monumental exertion by professionals to get prices up in order to make an already embarrassing quarter less embarrassing. These one and two-day wonders, as Crudele has pointed out, are technical blips on a bear market radar screen.

Today’s news was headlined by more charges and arrests in the corporate world. Enron’s former chief financial officer, Andrew Fastow, was charged with masterminding a fraud at Enron that cost investors billions. In other developments, Martha Stewart’s broker at Merrill Lynch pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and is expected to be singing like a canary. The New York District Attorney’s office is expected to make more announcements of further charges and possible arrests. This may lead to a new TV reality show called, “You’ve got cuffs.” Defendants would be brought before a judge like Judge Judy, plead their case, and to add spice to the show, the sentencing would be left to the audience. Viewers could choose from a list of multiple choices for penalties. The show could assuage investor anger, and in the process lift network ratings. Spin-offs could include, “You’ve got stripes,” “On the rocks,” to “You got nailed.” Other possible choices could include guest appearances of Ana Nicole Smith as a sit-in judge. Guest celebrity judges could also help draw in viewers. In the US the political views of entertainers now carry major political clout. Why not afford them the opportunity to be judges as well.

Markets resumed their downward trek, falling for the third day out of four as more corporate earnings disappointments generated renewed selling. Dow Chemical started things off by warning that Q3 profits would be below forecast. Drug companies got hammered on speculation that Schering- Plough will disappoint on their earnings tomorrow. Confidence is evaporating on earnings. Already this week pro forma profits have been lowered even further this quarter to 6.5%, down form 17% in July. Fourth quarter estimates have also been lowered to 19.1% from 27.7% on July 1st.

Major indexes gave back most of their gains from yesterday on above average volume. Two stocks fell for every one that rose on the NYSE. On the Nasdaq losers outdid winners by a 3 to 2 margin. Volume came in at 1.66 billion shares on the big board. The VIX rose by 3.23 points to close at 43.36. The VXN, up 0.91 points, finished at 58.15.

Overseas Markets
European stocks rose, paced by AstraZeneca and Vodafone Group as some investors judged drugmakers and telephone-service providers can maintain sales growth in a slowing economy. The Dow Jones Stoxx 50 Index added 3.8% to 2458.93. The index has climbed 6.2% since Monday's close, when it ended the worst quarter in almost 15 years. The Stoxx 600 Index rose 2.8% as phone companies and drug shares accounted for about a third of the gain.

Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Average fell to a 19-year low. Banks including Mizuho Holdings Inc. dropped after Mitsubishi Tokyo Financial Group Inc. said it will post a first-half loss, raising concern other lenders may lower their earnings forecasts. The Nikkei lost 1.2% to 9049.33.

Treasury Markets
Treasuries traded higher after some early downside action as investors bid up fixed-income securities amid declines in the stock market. The 10-year Treasury note rose 10/32 to yield 3.68% while the 30-year government bond was up 18/32 to yield 4.72%. No economic data were due out on Wednesday, but Thursday will see the release of August factory orders, the non-manufacturing ISM index and weekly initial claims.

© Copyright Jim Puplava, October 2, 2002



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: economics; investing; stockmarket
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To: Indrid Cold; Lazamataz; rohry
Mrs. Wasp and I had our silver 25th anniversary in 1987 and thus bought a bunch of Peruvian Sterling stuff some missionaries had brought back when it was at $7.25/oz!!!

The artisan work is beautiful and yet we keep it packed up and stashed and never bring it out. Paper money may be funny money to you guys, but at least it can earn interest or leverage a lot of other stuff like R.E.

It's gonna be a cold day in hell before the Hunt Bros. are resurrected and try to monopolize silver ever again and get us even close to even on those purchases. Even the PBS antique show ain't gonna do us any good, nor E-Bay. Oh well, it has sentimental value sittin in them boxes corrodin and tarnishin!!!

21 posted on 10/02/2002 7:02:31 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: rohry
Man, I can't agree with you more...I know the markets are going down but I'm not willing to go short or long...I'm out...

If I had any timing sense, I'd be going REAL short. Fortunately, I know enough to stay the hell out (well, except for my fully-diversified 401k, which I hope doesn't lose money faster than my company match).

22 posted on 10/02/2002 7:29:02 PM PDT by steveegg
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To: rohry
"Other possible choices could include guest appearances of Ana Nicole Smith as a sit-in judge."

Heh heh!

23 posted on 10/02/2002 7:36:37 PM PDT by Tauzero
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To: SierraWasp
Your tale of woe rings hollow.

Just shows that you need to understand that markets go up and down. Why did you not sell it when you had a small loss?

To continue holding a financial asset that is falling in value and is tradeable is a sign of someone who does not have a grasp on the essence of markets.

They can go up and down and the object is to make a profit.

Now if you had purchased all the silver dollars in a bank vault when the dollar link to silver was repudiated and stored them, you would have a nice increase over the years far beyond the interest you might have earned on the paper.

Investors are different than traders admittedly but you still have to recognize that "Buy and Hold" is a risky proposition.

24 posted on 10/02/2002 7:37:25 PM PDT by rollin
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To: arete
More on Bear Stearns:
Bear Stearns Wrongly Enters in $4 Bln in Stock Sales, NYSE Says

By Monique Wise

New York, Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- A Bear Stearns Cos. trader incorrectly entered $4 billion of orders to sell shares of U.S. companies, a New York Stock Exchange statement said.

The trades, which should have totaled $4 million, were entered at about 3:40 p.m., the exchange said. Of the trades, $622 million were executed, while the rest were cancelled, the exchange said.

Bear Stearns said the mishap will have ``no material impact on the firm,'' according to spokeswoman Elizabeth Ventura.

The trades were earlier reported by CNBC.

Between 3:40 p.m. and 3:44 p.m., New York time, the Standard & Poor's 500 Index fell 3 points to 826.5. The index closed at 827.91.

Lets see, the S&P500 falls three points, or 0.363 percent. 0.363 percent of 618 milion (622-4) is 2,243,340. Someone lost 2 and a quarter million and its not material? I wonder who it is material too?

patent

25 posted on 10/02/2002 7:42:10 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
By the way, it looks to me like that sell order may have helped kill a small closing rally of sorts.

patent

26 posted on 10/02/2002 7:46:28 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
Looked like that it was heading down some what at the time, but this certainly did not help. Banks sold off in the last hours as well.
27 posted on 10/02/2002 7:58:13 PM PDT by DarkWaters
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Meanwhile, keep a close eye on the west coast dockworkers strike. This just might end up becoming the proverbial "straw that breaks the camel's back".

Yep, if this strike drags on think of all the Walmarts, Home Depots and 99 cent stores that will be cut off from their Chinese imports.

28 posted on 10/02/2002 8:25:49 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: rollin
"Your tale of woe rings hollow."

Of course it does. I rationalize the whole thing as "Sentimental Value," just to cover the fact that I bought high and held for 15 years just for sentiment and recognition of remaining married to my first wife for 25 years. Now it's 40 years and we depreciate while our memories appreciate until either inherint vice or alzheimers tanishes that too.

Everybody around us has traded in their spouses always looking for greener grass or the dream of tradin up, or something like that... oh well. No body goes long or values relationships anymore. It requires too much commitment. However, not everybody wins by tradin off, either. It's all in what one values, I guess.

29 posted on 10/02/2002 8:38:57 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: StockAyatollah
The repercussions are much bigger than that. NUMMI in Fremont has shut down their passenger car production as of today, and their commercial production line will be shut down tomorrow, all due to lack of parts supplied from Japan. Meanwhile thousands of truckers are idling their rigs, not making any money but they still have truck payments to make at the end of the month.

This will ripple through the whole economy, and just at a moment where things are not looking too good AND we are looking at the possibility of a war with Iraq. This strike is just what the doctor ordered. Doctor Kevorkian, that is.
30 posted on 10/02/2002 9:17:51 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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To: rohry
Hopefully, the Democrats will have sold out on the way down and will miss the recovery in the markets. BTW, do you know the political affiliation of this source? They read like they are trying to make this a self-fullfilling prophecy. There is lot between these lines. No mention of record refinancing etc. No mention of any good news really.....just askin!
31 posted on 10/02/2002 10:08:18 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: rohry
bump for later
32 posted on 10/02/2002 10:58:03 PM PDT by Orion
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To: TheLion
BTW, do you know the political affiliation of this source? They read like they are trying to make this a self-fullfilling prophecy. There is lot between these lines. No mention of record refinancing etc. No mention of any good news really.....just askin!

Jim is a San Diego republican. You can tell that if you have listened to his internet broadcasts and read a few of his articles. He is a bit of a gold bug, but I don't believe he is "talking the economy down" to sell gold, etc. He is just calling it as he sees it.

33 posted on 10/03/2002 5:00:33 AM PDT by EVO X
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To: TheLion
"BTW, do you know the political affiliation of this source?"

He's a proponent of the Austrian School of economics. I've already told you at least once that he's no Democrat. Your one-track posts are getting rather tedious.

"No mention of any good news really..."

Tune in to CNBC if you want your good news from the Wall Street cheerleaders. They ignore all the bad news. For example, did they tell you to get out of the NASDQ before it plunged 80%?
34 posted on 10/03/2002 5:46:54 AM PDT by rohry
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To: SierraWasp
I bought high and held for 15 years just for sentiment and recognition of remaining married to my first wife for 25 years. Now it's 40 years
Seems like a decent investment.

patent  +AMDG

35 posted on 10/03/2002 10:07:46 AM PDT by patent
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To: patent
"Seems like a decent investment."

Yup! The one time I told her I was thinkin 'bout tradin her in for two twenties, she tole me I couldn't handle the voltage!!!

36 posted on 10/03/2002 10:24:42 AM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: arete
Great find! (I read it on the original ping you sent me)...
37 posted on 10/03/2002 1:54:54 PM PDT by rohry
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To: ikka
Only if the Republicans take both the House and the Senate will I put more money into the market.

Puh-leeze.....
The Pubbies or the Dems in power have the same pull on the markets - bigger gov't, higher taxes or higher debt, more regulations, and the like.

For all you FReeper Pubbie market bulls, the market is not political. If you sink your dollars into the market when the Pubbies get it all, you will just lose them under the Pubbies watch. This market is going down, and the Pubbies can't stop it.

It's not The UNIBANGER's fault, nor the Pubbies. This market has been in a speculative frenzy for years, and the party is over. The piper has to be paid - Pubbies or not.

38 posted on 10/03/2002 3:15:46 PM PDT by Orion
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To: TheLion
No mention of record refinancing etc.

This is a regular feature on FR. The author has previously opined about refi, and how it is compounding the problem. Most of the refis are not going to reduce the monthly payment, but to get the equity out for more consumer spending. The consumer spending will eventually dry up, and JOSE SIX PACK and JUAN Q PUBLIC will be left more debt, higher bills, and lots of misery.

Refis are a bad thing for our recovery.

39 posted on 10/03/2002 3:21:28 PM PDT by Orion
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To: ikka
I like ikka sounds good to me.
40 posted on 10/03/2002 5:22:14 PM PDT by LocDoc
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