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British under pressure to stop spanking kids: UN says spanking violates intl. treaty (UN Alert)
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Posted on 10/04/2002 11:26:18 PM PDT by chance33_98


British under pressure to stop spanking kids

Saturday, October 5, 2002 at 09:30 JST GENEVA — Britain should repeal a 142-year-old law giving parents the right to spank their children because it violates an international treaty, a United Nations committee said Friday.

The U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child, which oversees a 1989 accord protecting youngsters, said it welcomed British legislation abolishing corporal punishment in schools.

But it also called for the repeal of an 1860 law that allows parents to use "reasonable chastisement" to punish their children.

In London, Britain's Home Office said the government was "absolutely opposed to violence and abuse against children."

Countries that have ratified the Convention on the Rights of the Child are supposed to submit regular reports to the committee showing what they are doing to implement the treaty. The committee, made up of 10 independent experts, commented after considering Britain's report, the second the country has submitted since 1995.

The committee said it "deeply regrets that (Britain) persists in retaining the defense of 'reasonable chastisement' and has taken no significant action toward prohibiting all corporal punishment of children in the family." The committee had asked Britain to overturn the law in 1995.

Government proposals to limit — but not abolish — the provision do not comply with the 1989 convention and are a "serious violation of the dignity of the child," the committee said.

"Moreover, they suggest that some forms of corporal punishment are acceptable and therefore undermine educational measures to promote positive and non-violent discipline."

Committee Chairman Jacob Doek of the Netherlands told reporters the panel accepts "positive," nonviolent discipline of children.

"We're not saying children shouldn't be disciplined," he said. "But it's not necessary to hit them over the head or kick them."

The Home Office denied the law gave a green light to violence against children.

"The law only allows what is reasonable in terms of the physical punishment of children and does not permit child abuse," it said in a statement. "We recognize that parenting can be difficult, but we must avoid heavy-handed intrusion into family life."

Former U.S. President Bill Clinton's administration signed the convention but never submitted it for Senate ratification because a number of groups argued it infringed on the rights of parents.

The United States is one of only two countries — the other is Somalia — that has not ratified the treaty. (Wire reports)


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1 posted on 10/04/2002 11:26:18 PM PDT by chance33_98
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2 posted on 10/04/2002 11:26:41 PM PDT by chance33_98
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3 posted on 10/04/2002 11:28:58 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
The U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child

This is a joke right? If anyone needs a spanking, it's the U.N. LOL~

4 posted on 10/04/2002 11:34:35 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To: chance33_98
AW Gawd, it's so scary, cause we know they're out there, just waitin', ...just waitin'... and we can't stand it...!


5 posted on 10/04/2002 11:36:38 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Bad~Rodeo
SHhhhhh they might hear you and come to your home....Basically we are being set up for a one world government/ruling party. Not talking tin foil stuff here, just the obvious. Seems someone wants to concentrate power over all to the few.
6 posted on 10/04/2002 11:37:11 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: Vidalia
LOL - I loved that movie. Hmmm, have to check and see if they have a special DVD version out yet.
7 posted on 10/04/2002 11:38:23 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
Dam right, pull a little hair. Hurts enough to ger a response and does no actual damage.
8 posted on 10/04/2002 11:39:23 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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They have Return of the killer tomatoes Looks like I am in good company,

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9 posted on 10/04/2002 11:41:06 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: Bad~Rodeo; MadIvan
The U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child

This committee was surely established with good intentions, such as putting an end to practices such as mutilation of baby girls and child rape. If only it had stopped there. (FWIW, I don't think they are going to end up making Britain do anything.)

10 posted on 10/05/2002 12:01:14 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: chance33_98
The U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child, which oversees a 1989 accord protecting youngsters...

Thes assholes got kicked out of Iraq. Now I know why, these assholes were demoted to the spanking inspector team in the UK. My God, What is this planet coming to? Daniel Pearl was decapitated, and these friggin morons are inspecting some parent smacking a child's rear-end for... whatever? sheesh.

11 posted on 10/05/2002 12:04:06 AM PDT by BulletBrasDotNet
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To: BulletBrasDotNet
It seems we need an even bigger governing body then the one we have now to insure all people conform to the belief system of the UN/world. So many have chastised christians for trying to force their views on others in history, but the liberals thing they are justified in doing it.
12 posted on 10/05/2002 12:27:42 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
"But it's not necessary to hit them over the head or kick them."

Exactly right...which is why children are born with well-padded bottoms.

13 posted on 10/05/2002 12:31:37 AM PDT by Aracelis
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Re #10

How could they stop ? For those who are not Muslim fundies, this is their way of satisfying their Jihad-lust.

14 posted on 10/05/2002 12:41:18 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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I agree, let's put Madelyne Gorman Toogood in charge.

(tongue-n-cheek)

15 posted on 10/05/2002 12:50:23 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Bad~Rodeo
I agree, let's put Madelyne Gorman Toogood in charge.

Someday it will be the UN charging and trying her. Uh-Oh thing my tin foil hat has a hole in it :)

16 posted on 10/05/2002 12:56:30 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98; All
My 2¢'s about the un?

American Policy Center on-line Declaration of Independence from the U.N.

Also, I recall that the un has one or more "contingency sites" located in other nations... let's banish them there--

Moreover:

Child sex book given out at U.N. summit


massive sexual abuse of children in Africa,


17 posted on 10/05/2002 1:28:22 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: chance33_98
The United States is one of only two countries — the other is Somalia — that has not ratified the treaty.

Hmm. Maybe they could start up a new inspection regime for this in Iraq.

Na. Won't work. I just remembered. Saddam doesn't spank younger family members, he kills 'em.

18 posted on 10/05/2002 4:20:02 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: chance33_98
Well, there's simply no denying how well the Baby Boomers and their "time out" children have turned out, I guess.
19 posted on 10/05/2002 7:42:39 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: chance33_98
Are these guys for real??? We've got WW3 and WW4 brewing 'over there' and they are worried about kids getting spanked. No wonder the President told them to get bent. Jeez.
20 posted on 10/05/2002 8:16:18 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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