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Are All Your Memories Of Sept. 11 Really True?
Wall Street Journal ^
| September 13, 2002
| Sharon Begley
Posted on 10/6/2002, 3:16:56 AM by gcruse
Edited on 4/23/2004, 6:47:14 AM by Jim Robinson.
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On the morning before this week's heartbreaking anniversary, I waded into the crowds at Ground Zero to ask about their memories of Sept. 11.
Harold, a retiree from Lancaster, Calif., told me that he was awake early that day last year, watching "Today in L.A." in bed "just as it happened." He said he spent hours watching television that morning, riveted by images of the two planes striking the towers.
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posted on
10/6/2002, 3:16:56 AM
by
gcruse
To: gcruse
All I have to do is check my bookmarks.
I was the third poster on the first thread.
To: eddie willers
Intersting- especially in light of the whole "recovered memory" cases.
To: gcruse
"There was no video that day of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center," notes psychologist Kathy Pezdek of Claremont Graduate University in Claremont, Calif., one of many researchers studying Sept. 11 memories. "Yet 76% of the New Yorkers we surveyed say they saw it then, as do 73% of people nationwide." It wasn't shown that first day, but the French film crew covering the NYFD did indeed film the first plane hitting the north tower. I've seen it dozens of times.
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posted on
10/6/2002, 3:27:07 AM
by
Dog Gone
To: gcruse
From NLP: Nothing ever really happened.
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posted on
10/6/2002, 3:27:55 AM
by
templar
To: Dog Gone
It wasn't shown that first day, but the French film crew covering the NYFD did indeed film the first plane hitting the north tower.Actually, Dog, I saw it the afternoon of 9/11 on CNN. It was shown several times.
But, this does illustrate why "eyewitness reports" are notoriously unreliable. Talk to people who see airplane crashes, and you'll get all kinds of different stories.
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posted on
10/6/2002, 3:32:58 AM
by
sinkspur
To: Dog Gone
I'm pretty damn sure I saw the video of the first plane hitting the towers on 9/11. There was somebody filming a construction crew or something and the first plane flew right over them. The camera panned up and caught the plane just as it was crashing into the tower. I know that this video did not get much exposure until the day after but there was at least one station showing the video on the day itself.
To: Dog Gone
Or maybe it just seemed like the same day. Like many others, I got no sleep that night. So the 11th and 12th seemed like one long day for me.
To: gcruse
they asked some 1,500 people at eight U.S. sites and in Sweden for their memories, both event and personal, of Sept. 11.I wish they had included Saudi Arabia and France in the study. This was a good idea for a study. This has big implications for court testimony. We can't disregard eye witness testimony, but there will be a continuing debate on its reliability.
To: Dog Gone
"There was no video that day of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center," However, there was video of the second plane hitting and a lot of people thought it was the first one, as my husband did.
To: Dog Gone
Exactly, and not only did they have video of the first plane hitting, there were a few people filming the trade center that day when it happened. Some from Jersey, others in NY.
Granted the morning of 9-11, none of us saw the first plane hit, I did however witness live the murder of hundreds of people when the 2nd plane hit.
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posted on
10/6/2002, 3:41:48 AM
by
Brytani
To: eddie willers
All I have to do is check my bookmarks. I was the third poster on the first thread. As I use FR as my clearinghouse for the morning news, I first learned about it after logging on to FR at 7:00 A.M. Pacific time.
By that time, the second plane had already crashed. I turned on the portable TV in the bedroom after reading on FR that something was going on . It was not something that made perfect sense two minutes after you drag yourself out of bed.
I do remember that when the tower collapsed I did not sense that any people were dying at that moment. Having come into the middle of the story with no time line and still in a Pacific time frame of mind, I had a mental image of an empty building collapsing.
To: Dog Gone
"There was no video that day of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center," notes psychologist Kathy Pezdek of Claremont Graduate University in Claremont, Calif., one of many researchers studying Sept. 11 memories. "Yet 76% of the New Yorkers we surveyed say they saw it then, as do 73% of people nationwide."
. . .you are right. . .I do believe that there is not film of that 'hit' but that many, many have seen it.
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10/6/2002, 3:59:19 AM
by
cricket
To: Dog Gone
"There was no video that day of the first plane hitting the World Trade Center," notes psychologist Kathy Pezdek of Claremont Graduate University in Claremont, Calif., one of many researchers studying Sept. 11 memories. "Yet 76% of the New Yorkers we surveyed say they saw it then, as do 73% of people nationwide."
. . .you are right. . .I do believe that there is film of that 'hit' and that we all have seen it. . .New memory? Don't think so. . .
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posted on
10/6/2002, 4:01:35 AM
by
cricket
To: templar
From NLP: Nothing ever really happened. That could be next! LOL!
To: templar
"From NLP: Nothing ever really happened"
. . .a programmed bump. . .
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posted on
10/6/2002, 4:08:02 AM
by
cricket
To: cricket
There is film of the first plane hitting the tower, they just didn't show it the first day. In fact, there are several films of it as many were video taping at the time as tourists often do.
To: SamAdams76
YEs, you did see it, along with everyone else. The first plane video surfaced later the afternoon of 9-11. Starts with a fireman or something and then moves upward and to the left quickly, catching the first plane hitting the tower.
Regardless of what the article suggests, that video exists. We all saw it dozens of times that week, I'm sure.
To: SamAdams76
I went to the WTC site today for the very first time. It is still a very, very sad place.
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