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Fox News says Supreme Court Allows Lautenberg!

Posted on 10/07/2002 10:53:40 AM PDT by Howlin

It's done!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: benny; corpse; election; forrester; gulla; lautenberg; nj; oldfart; oldman; senate
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington; Alberta's Child
SCOTUS has said, loudly and clearly, that state courts can rewrite laws and usurp Constitutional authorities on a whim.

Actually, at least in terms of the law, SCOTUS has done no such thing. It says repeatedly that its refusal to grant cert has nothing to do with the merits of a case.

In this case, SCOTUS, in Bush v. Gore, laid down the law, and a lower federal court is perfectly capable of enforcing it. Let us see what happens to the absentee voters' suit in federal district court in Trenton.

321 posted on 10/07/2002 12:18:01 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
I'll give you credit for trying to make lemonade out of a lemon, but I seriously believe we are no longer truly a nation of laws. Rather, we are a nation ruled by unscrupulous lawyers and incompetent, biased, and prejudiced judges.

I am as disappointed and disgusted as you are. However, there are injustices in our legal system perpetrated every day. Look at the OJ murder acquittal, for example.

Yes, we have an absolute mess with this decision, but we cannot give up.

322 posted on 10/07/2002 12:18:42 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: RabidBartender
I'm sure all things are now on the table.
323 posted on 10/07/2002 12:18:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: capitan_refugio
I agree.

The only question is, who do we get to lead the charge on that thing? It would have to come from a Senator who is in a safe seat, and who could be trusted.
324 posted on 10/07/2002 12:18:56 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: twyn1
Didn't you listen to McGreevy -- the law is SILENT on what can be done after the 51 day limit has passed (*grrrrrr*)

McGreevy's argument is one of the silliest I've ever heard. If this logic is followed elsewhere all laws will instantly acquire hundreds of new loopholes. If a current law does not spell out all possible cases, then the courts will be free to reinterpret those laws in any way they desire. Once again Democrats and lawyers are conspiring together to destroy, logic, common sense, the rule of law and the english languange.

325 posted on 10/07/2002 12:20:20 PM PDT by Pres Raygun
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To: Robert_Paulson2
I think we can also add the information that the Republican NON-INCUMBENT, Forester, already beat three Democrats in the US Senate race in a matter of days!! -- and they were far more physically, mentally, and psychologically capable then Lautenberg, the FOURTH name on the list. Remember that the NJ DemocRAT Party offered the chance to run for US Senate to first ex-Congressman Menendez (NJ-13) and then Congressman Pallone (NJ-6). BOTH OF THEM TURNED THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY DOWN. Now, considering the nature of NJ politics, isn't the fact that two CONGRESSMEN turned down what should be a sure thing (against a non-incumbent minority-party candidate) be the sort of information Forester's campaign could inspire people with? (We could say that Lautenberg is about to sally fourth to battle.)
326 posted on 10/07/2002 12:20:32 PM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: Howlin
Primaries are not federal election issues. The State shouldn't be funding or participating in primaries anyway.

The only reason the GOP got involved here was because it saw an opportunity to run uncontested.

327 posted on 10/07/2002 12:21:53 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: ELS
If I'm available, I will definitely participate in a freep of the Torricelli-Lautenberg machine.
328 posted on 10/07/2002 12:21:59 PM PDT by dead
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To: lds23
That is great!
329 posted on 10/07/2002 12:22:57 PM PDT by dead
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To: mwl1
Can you say "revolution"?
330 posted on 10/07/2002 12:23:41 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Alberta's Child
Not as bad as you think. It's kind of like paying a toll. I've only had one ticket since 1981 and that was in a rental car that had a speedometer that read low! STill my bad though.

BTW, I've been stopped twice in the last four months. One for recklessly entering the freeway and the other for 70+ on the freeway. In both cases the cops asked me to be more careful and let me continue on my way.

In case you're interested, the first cop was yelling at me when he got to my car, and I yelled back. Don't ask me why nobody cited me. In both cases the cops seemed like nice guys and we enjoyed talking.
331 posted on 10/07/2002 12:23:47 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Howlin
I'm sure all things are now on the table.

The Republicans have a pretty clean PR record. The Democrats have Clinton impeachment, Toricelli, the Florida attempt to steal the election, and now democrats are acting like spoiled brats and saying "i'm not winning, so I quit."

I feel America sees adults on the right, children on the left.
In the end, I believe many will become Republicans because of it. Deep inside, people still feel there's a right and wrong, even if they don't understand what that strange feeling in their stomich really is.

I have faith and a sence that all the democrat shananagins are going to add up, and America will turn on them.

332 posted on 10/07/2002 12:25:30 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Dog
I am a NJ voter and I will crawl to the polls if I have to on election day!!!!!

Give me a dead man's name, district, and directions to his polling place. I will vote here in VA and then come up there and vote too. Nothing we do could now to trash this election would be worse or more unconstitutional than what the DimRATs have done, including blocking the streets to the polls in heavy RAT districts with unruly mobs. Thomas Jefferson demands justice from his grave. People have died in all the wars since the Revolution to prevent this crap. Take it to the streets!!!

333 posted on 10/07/2002 12:27:19 PM PDT by putupon
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To: Mixer
Well we knew they wouldn't take the case and the law has been ignored. Now NJ has to vote republican to show the courts that they can not do this.

Well, that's true. And I certainly hope that happens. But the REALLY bad thing is the precedent that is set. Next time the New Jersey DIMocRATS don't like how a race is going, guess what? They'll refer to this SCONJ ruling and to the fact that the Supreme Court - by refusing to see the case - UPHELD it !!

334 posted on 10/07/2002 12:28:04 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: RobRoy
The good thing about failing to pay a toll is that not only do you gain a benefit for yourself, but you prevent the government from collecting revenue that they were counting on.
335 posted on 10/07/2002 12:28:30 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: billbears
Nice try, but Article I, Section 4 refered to the election of BOTH Houses of Congress. The only check mentioned is that Congress can't affect the place of election for Senators.

Since the date of election is set BY CONGRESS as the Tuesday after the first Monday in November the year prior to the end of the term, how about suggesting to your state legislature to change the date to, say, January 2 of the year that the term expires? How about January 6 of the year that the term starts? Using your logic, both dates would be Constitutional.

How about moving international relations to cities? How about moving complete control of national defense to the individual states? How about letting each state impose its own set of tariffs? Why have a nation at all?

Where the Constitution is silent, the feds should also be silent.

336 posted on 10/07/2002 12:28:43 PM PDT by steveegg
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To: Robert_Paulson2
" it's actually quite a gift to us... "

I said last week, that Lautenberg was a gift. There is no way that a 78 yr old, retired from politics for 2 years,can be brought up to speed on the issues,campaign, make public appearances,debate, give newspaper interviews,appear on tv shows,appear on call in radio shows, etc.It's going to be physically exhausting, which will expose his mental and physical frailties. The Republicans all across the country should ask their Dem opponents, to pledge that they will not withdraw from their particular race, at the last minute. Make this action national.The age differences should be highlighted-the question should be asked, should Lautenberg have a stroke or die in office, who would the Dems appoint? Ronald Reagan ( whom the Dems ridiculed as being too old and out of touch) was 78- When He Left Office!!! Not when he was elected!!!He will be the oldest Senator in the US ,if elected- the Strom Thurmond and Jesse Helms of the Democrat Party!!! We need his medical records!!!
337 posted on 10/07/2002 12:29:24 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: lds23
Well good luck to you. PA has some nice spots. I have a buddy in Clarks Summit. I always enjoy the drive out there and the time spent. I'm hopefully closing on a house in Sussex County this month. Not that far from PA or NY for that matter. We'll try to get by without you ;-)
338 posted on 10/07/2002 12:29:38 PM PDT by Huck
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To: mwl1
I think you're trippin' on that last scenario friend.

If forrester wins, he wins. period.
Worried about them "stealing the election"?

Get out and volunteer to baby sit at the polling place, take video cams and record suspicious voters... and AFTER you vote at 6am... take all your dem buddies out on an all-day drinking binge... and pay to get them plastered...

Tuck your demofriends safely into bed at 11:59 pm.. and fuggedaboudit...

I am only half kidding. You said you would like to share my "optimism"... GREAT. then just do it. Take all you want. and spread it wherever you care.

This is not sunshine and smoke... We HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY HERE... and it can be fun...
do what you can...
339 posted on 10/07/2002 12:30:22 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: KsSunflower
There is no silver lining here.

Ah! But there is a lead and brass lining... ;-)

340 posted on 10/07/2002 12:32:02 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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