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Bush Iraq Plan Hits Snag in Senate (My Title - Byrd screws Dems, Tenet screws Bush)
AP via NYT ^ | 10-8-02 | AP

Posted on 10/08/2002 1:00:31 PM PDT by frmrda

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Saddam Hussein's apparent policy of not resorting to terrorist attacks against the United States could change if he concludes a U.S.-led attack against him was inevitable, CIA Director George Tenet said as President's Bush bid for congressional support to use force hit a snag in the Senate.

Tenet, in a letter read before a joint hearing of the House and Senate intelligence committees Tuesday, said that ``Baghdad for now appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional or chemical or biological weapons.''

But Tenet went on to say that should Saddam conclude that a U.S.-led attack against his country could not be deterred, ``he probably would become much less constrained in adopting terrorist action.''

Both the House and the Senate were debating the Iraq war resolution.

But while it appeared to be clear sailing for the measure in the GOP-led House, Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., served notice on other Democrats at a party luncheon that he intended to use parliamentary tactics to delay a final vote, according to those who attended the session.

That could delay the vote well into next week, suggested Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-W.Va.

Byrd, widely respected for his deep knowledge of the Senate rules, has emerged as the primary Senate opponent to the president's war resolution.

The House began a fateful three-day debate on the measure on Tuesday. The Senate, which has been debating the measure since last Thursday, resumed its debate.

If forced into war, ``We will prevail,'' President Bush told a Tennessee audience.

``At this moment, the people's house begins debate on one of the most difficult questions we will ever face,'' said Rep. David Dreier, R-Calif.

The House hoped to conclude by Thursday night. The measure before both chambers provides the president wide latitude to take military action to disarm Saddam of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons and, if possible, depose the Iraqi leader.

Anticipating an overwhelming vote of support in Congress, Bush told a Knoxville, Tenn., rally on Tuesday, ``Military option is my last choice, the last choice. But should we commit our military, we'll be ready. We'll be prepared. We'll have a great plan and make no mistake about it, we will prevail.''

Secretary of State Colin Powell, meeting with lawmakers on Capitol Hill, said the congressional resolution ``will definitely strengthen my hand as I try to do the diplomatic work up in New York to get a United Nations Security Council resolution'' requiring unimpeded weapons inspections in Iraq.

Powell said there was increasing support at the U.N. for a new inspections mandate. ``All of my colleagues at the United Nations and others I've spoken to around the world clearly see the threat,'' he said.

At the Pentagon, a Defense Intelligence Agency official told reporters that Saddam is actively making biological and chemical weapons -- and trying to hide that fact from the world.

Iraq is ``taking steps to conceal sensitive equipment and documentation in anticipation of new inspections,'' John Yurechko said.

In a somber address to the nation Monday evening, Bush said the threat from Iraq was unique and imminent and there was no time to wait for final proof that Saddam had developed a nuclear capability -- ``the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud.''

``While there are many dangers in the world, the threat from Iraq stands alone because it gathers the most serious dangers of our age in one place,'' the president said.

Bush told a Cincinnati audience in his televised speech that Saddam was ``a homicidal dictator who is addicted to weapons of mass destruction,'' and that if he succeeds in obtaining nuclear weapons to add to his biological and chemical stockpiles, he ``would be in a position to blackmail anyone who opposes his aggression.''

In Baghdad, the government of Iraq on Tuesday described Bush's speech as an attempt to justify an attack.

``The speech contained misleading information through which Bush is trying to justify an illogical and illegitimate attack on Iraq,'' said Foreign Minister Naji Sabri Sabri.

On Tuesday, a Pentagon official reiterated U.S. warnings that Iraqi military officers should refuse orders to use chemical or biological weapons. Any Iraqis involved in such attacks would be treated as war criminals after the conflict ended, said Douglas Feith, undersecretary for policy at the Defense Department.

The House has allotted 21 hours to debate what House International Relations Committee Chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill., a chief sponsor of the White House-backed resolution, called ``one of the most consequential questions we will deal with for years to come.''

That resolution urges the United Nations to enforce strict new rules on inspecting Iraq and eliminating its weapons of mass destruction, while giving the president the authority to act unilaterally if the United Nations fails to crack down on the Iraqi threat. It also requires the president to notify Congress, no later than 48 hours after commencing military action, on why diplomatic efforts were inadequate.

Bush said congressional authorization of a military strike ``does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable. The resolution will tell the United Nations, and all nations, that America speaks with one voice and is determined to make the demands of the civilized world mean something.''

Both the House and Senate will also vote on more narrowly drawn alternatives, backed mainly by Democrats, that would authorize force only to deal with the Iraqi weapons buildup and allow unilateral action against Iraq only after the United Nations fails to act or Iraq refuses to cooperate with demands for unfettered inspections.

There was little doubt, however, that the Bush-backed language would win out in the end, probably by a sizable margin.


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I'm sure you all can comment on Tenet giving info that could support the anti-war effort.

However, the interesting thing here is that Bobby "KKK" Byrd is going to push this vote into late next week.

I can just hear Dems going crazy, because that's one less week they can get into "kitchen table" issues. So long as the spotlight is on Iraq their chances dwindle.

1 posted on 10/08/2002 1:00:31 PM PDT by frmrda
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To: frmrda
More good news for the pubbies today. I hope the Imperial Wizard manages to delay the vote until November 4th.
2 posted on 10/08/2002 1:02:31 PM PDT by Coop
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To: frmrda
Tenet screws Bush

It's time for him to go.... way past time

3 posted on 10/08/2002 1:04:27 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: frmrda
So how much pork does Byrd want for West Virginia?
4 posted on 10/08/2002 1:05:09 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: frmrda
"Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., served notice on other Democrats at a party luncheon that he intended to use parliamentary tactics to delay a final vote, according to those who attended the session."

Strategically [electionwise] this is good news for us.

The more this drags out....the less time the Liberoonies have to attack the President on the economy or murdering old folks.

Let General Arafat/Bird ramble on incoherently for another week or even two...its only good for us. We want him on the National News every night...every screenshot of Bird on National television is gold...and if we can get sound bites out of him...all the better.

5 posted on 10/08/2002 1:05:28 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: frmrda
Old Bobby is just embarrassed that our country is represented by an integrated army.

"Rather I should die a thousand times and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds!"
- Democratic “Conscience of the Senate” Robert C. Byrd, regarding the racial integration of the army.

6 posted on 10/08/2002 1:06:46 PM PDT by dead
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To: Catspaw
Bingo. If the $500M Robert Byrd Homeland Security Center were proposed to be located in WV, he'd be onboard like flies on *&^%.
7 posted on 10/08/2002 1:08:09 PM PDT by PogySailor
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I'm tellin ya we all need to freep Bird's office and tell him "Dont back down. We need more true Americans like you" etc, etc.

He is a Republican Strategists dream come true.

"Pretty, pretty pretty...Lies! Lies!"

Hahaha

8 posted on 10/08/2002 1:09:08 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: Coop
Coop - Is it possible that the Dems are the ones self destructing right before the election rather than the Pubbies? Quite a turnabout.

What do you think the midwest Dem Senators in tight races think about extending this debate till the end of next week, leaving them only 2 1/2 weeks to get Iraq off the front pages? Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall? I'll bet ol' Bobby Byrd's ears are ringing about now.

9 posted on 10/08/2002 1:14:26 PM PDT by frmrda
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To: VaBthang4
I'm tellin ya we all need to freep Bird's office and tell him "Dont back down. We need more true Americans like you" etc, etc.

Please contact Senator Byrd, and urge him to stop this reckless plunge into war. His office number is (202) 224-3904. Call until November 4th, until he croaks from the filibuster, or until Republicans lead in the New Jersey, Minnesota, Missouri, and Georgia Senate races, whichever comes first. :-)


Tony

10 posted on 10/08/2002 1:16:00 PM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: TonyInOhio
You are so baaaaddd,,going to call the ole buzzard now and tell him how true Americans are looking up to him, de,manding he filibuster this terrible bill. hehehhehehe
11 posted on 10/08/2002 1:19:07 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: cajungirl
You go girl! :-)


Tony

12 posted on 10/08/2002 1:20:53 PM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: frmrda
Coop - Is it possible that the Dems are the ones self destructing right before the election rather than the Pubbies?

Ask me in four weeks. :-)

13 posted on 10/08/2002 1:20:59 PM PDT by Coop
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To: frmrda
If any Americans die because of Byrd's delaying tactics, he should be hung. I mean this literally.

However, even the Dems must be mad at him. Byrd cannot stop the inevitable, but he helps the Pubbies with every delay he creates.

The Dems cannot pursue their usual demonization of Republicans while attention is focused on Iraq. Worse (from the Dem perspective), if ANY attack against our homeland succeeds, the public has seen enough already to put the Dems first in line to take the blame.

In this game, "You gotta know know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em..."

As I recall: If, after the first hour, you don't know who the patsy is, it's YOU. Anyone wanna bet on who's the patsy?
14 posted on 10/08/2002 1:21:29 PM PDT by EternalHope
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To: TonyInOhio
From a raw political standpoint, Byrd's antics are pretty, pretty, pretty in my eyes.
15 posted on 10/08/2002 1:21:38 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: frmrda
Read the links post that I'm going to provide. It is post #38 you need to look at.

Notice how it mentions the al Queda Iraq link. Saddam Hussein is up to his nose in al Queda. We need to get this stuff out there every single time to refute the Sen "Byrds" and cowardly pacifists we are facing. The evidence is OVERWHELMING..

read on....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/765228/posts?page=38#38
17 posted on 10/08/2002 1:24:35 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: TonyInOhio
(202) 224-3904

Amen. Let him know what a great job he is doing and we stand behind him 110%. ~grin~

18 posted on 10/08/2002 1:29:38 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: freeperfromnj
And hasn't Tenet's CIA been the source of leaks deflating a lot of the allegations of people in the administration (like about the Atta-Iraqi meeting in Prague)?
19 posted on 10/08/2002 1:29:49 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: frmrda
Tenet - an absolute, bumbling incompetent.

TENET: "There's no way the CIA could have penetrated Al-Qaeda. It would be impossible to place an American agent in the ranks of Islamist jihad organizations."

JOHN WALKER: "So I gave this Paki businessman a handjob and he introduced me to a Taliban preacher. Two months later I was shaking hands with Osama bin Laden."

TENET: "Ummm . . . ah . . . "

20 posted on 10/08/2002 1:30:43 PM PDT by wideawake
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