Bush Iraq Plan Hits Snag In Senate

Associated Press ^ | 8 October 2002 | Jim Abrams

[clintonh8r]

The bottom line is that Bush doesn't need the resolution. The resolution passed on 9/14/01 and the UN resolutions already in place are sufficient grounds on which to act. Acting without the congress will not cost him any votes, and waiting for the resolution won't gain him any votes. However, waiting will cost American combatants' lives, something that's meaningless to RATs (except for political purposes) but will mean a lot to Bush, who actually has a brain, a conscience and a heart.

[marktuoni]

Is it possible that they've really gotten this stupid???

[Recovering_Democrat]

From the article (direct quote):
That could delay the vote well into next week, suggested Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-W.Va.

Dolts. Daschle from West Virginia?

[VRWC_minion]

Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., served notice on other Democrats at a party luncheon that he intended to use parliamentary tactics to delay a final vote

Thanks, lets keep you folks tied up in DC while the campaigns start the ads showing the RATS side by side with Saddam.

[Bill Davis FR]

"...This looks like the same confused and inept CIA prior 9/11...

no changes have been made since clinton left...its his agency and i don't understand why changes haven't been made...

[You Dirty Rats]

Robert Byrd couldn't even deliver West Virginia for Gore despite the fact that he moved 1/2 of Washington there, and now he thinks he can stop the resolution all by himself?

Gives a whole new meaning to "Robert's Rules of Order!"

This guy used to be one of the shrewdest operators in the Senate. Now he has no idea. The man is a horrible example of someone who is so September 10th. He'll end up a old white-haired bug on the windshield of this joint resolution.

[Ditto]

But while it appeared to be clear sailing for the measure in the GOP-led House, Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., served notice on other Democrats at a party luncheon that he intended to use parliamentary tactics to delay a final vote, according to those who attended the session.

Bobby (The Klansman) Byrd has a long history of delaying Senate votes.

June 10, 1964
Civil Rights Filibuster Ended

At 9:51 on the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert C. Byrd completed an address that he had begun fourteen hours and thirteen minutes earlier. The subject was the pending Civil Rights Act of 1964, a measure that occupied the Senate for fifty-seven working days, including six Saturdays. A day earlier, Democratic Whip Hubert Humphrey, the bill's manager, concluded he had the sixty-seven votes required at that time to end the debate.

The Civil Rights Act provided protection of voting rights; banned discrimination in public facilities—including private businesses offering public services—such as lunch counters, hotels, and theaters; and established equal employment opportunity as the law of the land.

As Senator Byrd took his seat, House members, former senators, and others—150 of them—vied for limited standing space at the back of the chamber. With all gallery seats taken, hundreds waited outside in hopelessly extended lines.

Georgia Democrat Richard Russell offered the final arguments in opposition. Minority Leader Everett Dirksen, who had enlisted the Republican votes that made cloture a realistic option, spoke for the proponents with his customary eloquence. Noting that the day marked the one-hundredth anniversary of Abraham Lincoln's nomination to a second term, the Illinois Republican proclaimed, in the words of Victor Hugo, "Stronger than all the armies is an idea whose time has come." He continued, "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!"

Never in history had the Senate been able to muster enough votes to cut off a filibuster on a civil rights bill. And only once in the thirty-seven years since 1927 had it agreed to cloture for any measure.

The clerk proceeded to call the roll. When he reached "Mr. Engle," there was no response. A brain tumor had robbed California's mortally ill Clair Engle of his ability to speak. Slowly lifting a crippled arm, he pointed to his eye, thereby signaling his affirmative vote. Few of those who witnessed this heroic gesture ever forgot it. When Delaware's John Williams provided the decisive sixty-seventh vote, Majority Leader Mike Mansfield exclaimed, "That's it!"; Richard Russell slumped; and Hubert Humphrey beamed. With six wavering senators providing a four-vote victory margin, the final tally stood at 71 to 29. Nine days later the Senate approved the act itself—producing one of the twentieth century's towering legislative achievements.

Source: http://www.senate.gov/learning/min_6h.html

[TonyInOhio]

Is it possible that they've really gotten this stupid???

We are talking about The Party of Gore, after all.

Tony

[hsmomx3]

Everyone prior to this administration needs to get another job outside of the govt..

[tomahawk]

Tenet needs to go. He has ineptitude written all over him.

[hsmomx3]

Someone needs to email Hannity, O'Reilly and others so they can hound that on tv and radio.

[BulletBrasDotNet]

These democrats are unbelievable. They stall, and stall. I remember a saying from when I was a kid. "Nero fiddles while Rome burns."

[tsomer]

"Saddam has never attempted terrorist or WMD attacks against the US..."

True, perhaps.

But that's because proxies are doing it for him.

"an unprovoked invasion of Iraq threatening to derail the President's admirable just war on Islamicist terror."

Do you perchance have any Joan Baez records in your attic? Time to get'em down! For old time's sake, I mean.

[jimkress]

So according to you, we should just throw away all our weapons because if we're nice to our enemies, they'll be nice to us!?

How many innocent people have to die before you realize that there are real enemies of the US that will kill you for no other reason than you are an American? How many innocent people have to die before you realize we have the obligation to protect ourselves from those who try to kill us and the people that enable them?

Was your grandfather's name Neville Chamberlin?

[MTRatt]

Saddam Hussein's apparent policy of not resorting to terrorist attacks against the United States could change if he concludes a U.S.-led attack against him was inevitable.

Sounds like Tenet wants us to allow ourselves to be blackmailed.

If we cave over this threat, what will we do when Saddam can hold A-bomb over our heads?

[montag813]

Tenet is an imbecile. I do not understand why this Clinton holdover was retained after the 9/11 debacle.

[Photo2003]

The Democrats have pushed the American people against the wall. The American people know now that they have no choice but to elect a Republican Senate.

[marron]

You know, just yesterday I was defending Tenet, on the admittedly flimsy basis that his earlier inanities may well have been simply in response to administration policy; in other words, Tenet was just carrying out Clinton policy objectives which he may not have agreed with.

And now, this. Blows me right out of the water.

Combined this with Louis Freeh's comments from a couple of years back, which were just reprinted, where he says that the greatest threat to the US is not, Muslim extremism, but rather American rightists.

Gee. So Clinton's appointees actually agreed with Clinton policies. OK, so we got rid of Freeh, why is Tenet still hanging around? Is it to keep him from writing any books until after GW leaves office?

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[Hoosier-Daddy]

Well, Byrd-turd obviously wants something. More highway funds maybe. That is one Senator that can be bought. Kinda like Al Gore and his Gulf War speech.