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Gun Critics Lament Missed Chance To Track Sniper - Law Applies To Handguns, But Not Rifles
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Posted on 10/09/2002 6:50:20 PM PDT by chance33_98


Gun Critics Lament Missed Chance To Track Sniper 
Law Applies To Handguns, But Not Rifles
Posted: 4:43 a.m. EDT October 9, 2002
Updated: 8:58 p.m. EDT October 9, 2002

Gun control advocates say police might have caught the sniper in the Washington, D.C., area by now if a Maryland gun law applied to rifles.

D.C.-AREA SHOOTING SPREE Timeline, Map Images From Monday's Scene Victims Of Shootings Residents Cope Share Your Thoughts

Maryland is one of two states that requires so-called "fingerprinting" of every handgun sold by retailers. A shell casing from a test firing must be given to police.

But the law exempts rifles because of opposition from rural voters.

Eric Gorovitz of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence says the sniper attacks in and around Washington, including neighboring Maryland, are a perfect example of how valuable complete ballistic fingerprinting would be.

He thinks it should be done nationwide, for all firearms, since it's possible the rifle used by the sniper could have been bought outside Maryland, or stolen.

If stolen, he says at least police would have a lead.

Police: Sniper Leaves Behind Tarot Card Montgomery County, Md. Police Chief Charles Moose blasted two media outlets in Washington for the release of possible evidence in the sniper shooting of eight people.

Six people were killed and two others injured as a gunman continued to terrorize the surrounding Washington, D.C., area in the past week.

Moose criticized reports by WUSA-TV and The Washington Post for releasing information allegedly found in connection with the latest shooting of a 13-year-old boy outside a Prince George's County middle school. The boy is still in serious but stable condition after surgery for a single gunshot wound.

The news reports said law enforcement officials found a shell casing in the woods near the school and also a Tarot card. County officials confirmed that the Death card (similar to one pictured) from a Tarot pack was found with a message scribbled on the card -- "Dear policeman, I am God."

The message was first reported by WUSA-TV of Washington and later by The Washington Post.

Moose angrily said, "Do you want the police to work the case or do you want channel 9 (WUSA-TV) to work the case?" He said he has not heard from the public that they want the television station or the newspaper to investigate this case.

D.C.-AREA SHOOTING SPREE Timeline, Map Images From Monday's Scene Victims Of Shootings Residents Cope Share Your Thoughts

The chief also lambasted retired police officers appearing on television shows, saying that "he feels sorry for them" and they "have an ego problem." He said speculation and conjecture by retired police is "so sad."

Moose said he has investigated the leak of the information and has put the release of the tarot card incident behind him. He said he was angry because his investigators had requested that the card information not be released to the public.

Prince George's County police say there is no sign of anyone in a wooded area of Fort Washington they spent several hours searching today.

Cpl. Diane Richardson with the Prince George's County police says they are "confident" there is no one in the woods, and police are clearing the scene. They are also releasing a woman they had stopped.

Investigators are also looking at an earlier shooting in the Washington area outside a Montgomery County, Md. liquor store. A store employee was shot in the arm on Sept. 14. Ballistics testing of the bullet in that case and a comparison of shell fragments from the other sniper shootings proved inconclusive.

On Tuesday, Gov. Parris Glendening called the shooter "a coward" and urged him to give himself up. The reward for the capture of the sniper shooter has grown to $237,000.

Police say the sniper has shot eight people -- five in Montgomery County, one in D.C., one in Virginia and one in Prince George's County. Six of the eight died.

A woman in Virginia was released from the hospital on Tuesday and the 13-year-old boy in Prince George's County is in serious but stable condition.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
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1 posted on 10/09/2002 6:50:20 PM PDT by chance33_98
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2 posted on 10/09/2002 6:51:44 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
3 posted on 10/09/2002 6:54:12 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
The grabbers are invigorated and on the move.
4 posted on 10/09/2002 6:55:31 PM PDT by primeval patriot
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To: chance33_98
System would fail (ballistic fingerprinting)
5 posted on 10/09/2002 6:58:51 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: chance33_98
"Gun control advocates"

How about a few good people who live in the real world who are also concerned who just might actually be realized as "Criminal Control Advocates"...?
6 posted on 10/09/2002 6:59:02 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: chance33_98
CNN had a segment this evening, that could have been written by Sarah Brady. Big bad guns are owned by big bad people.
7 posted on 10/09/2002 7:01:40 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: chance33_98
Gun control advocates say police might have caught the sniper in the Washington, D.C., area by now if a Maryland gun law applied to rifles.

OMG!!!!!!!! The ignorance of this statement is unbelievable.

Yes, everyone knows that ONLY law abiding citizens that register their guns with the state are the ones that would commit such heinous crimes. You never know when one of us will just snap.

Thank GOD illegal guns aren't readily and easily available to the psycho killers that want them.

MKM

8 posted on 10/09/2002 7:04:42 PM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: chance33_98
A few little marks in the barrel and ...
9 posted on 10/09/2002 7:05:59 PM PDT by M. T. Cicero II
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To: mykdsmom
it's not ignorance ... it's mis-representation (aka lies)
10 posted on 10/09/2002 7:06:45 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: chance33_98
Gorovitz is an A-----e. For all we know, the rifle being used in the shootings is many years old, much older than the "bullet fingerprinting" crap, which is two years old.
11 posted on 10/09/2002 7:09:48 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: Texas_Jarhead
As you say. A few minutes to investigate before opening their mouths, and they would know the truth. But news reporters never investigate these days, because they might find out something they'd rather not know.

It's a form of lying that involves carefully avoiding looking at the facts.
12 posted on 10/09/2002 7:10:38 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: chance33_98
This so called "footprint" is public relations b.s.
A good cleaning can change the footprint...
13 posted on 10/09/2002 7:11:44 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: chance33_98
It's a good thing they have no idea a pistol could be the firearm that's being used.
14 posted on 10/09/2002 7:17:50 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: chance33_98
Just imagine, if the sniper was using a 30.06 instead of a .223, Sarah Brady's son would be a suspect, because of a weapon his own mom bought him.

Brady reveals in her memoir that she bought James Brady Jr. a Remington .30-06, complete with scope and safety lock, at a Lewes, Del., gun shop.

From Sarah's memoirs:

"I can't describe how I felt when I picked up that rifle, loaded it into my little car and drove home," she writes. "It seemed so incredibly strange: Sarah Brady, of all people, packing heat."

15 posted on 10/09/2002 7:29:42 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: chance33_98

16 posted on 10/09/2002 7:34:17 PM PDT by USA21
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To: chance33_98
United Nations

releases major study on vital role of disarmament education in promoting peace

Miguel Marín Bosch 9 October – Aiming to revitalize and update past efforts to promote disarmament education, the United Nations today released a major study urging action on the issue by a wide range of players on the international scene, from global groups to religious leaders.

"There has never been a greater need for education in the areas of disarmament and non-proliferation, especially with regard to weapons of mass destruction, but also in the field of small arms and international terrorism," states the report, which was prepared by a Group of Governmental Experts appointed by Secretary-General Kofi Annan. "The disarmament and non-proliferation education challenge is substantial and requires both immediate and sustained practical efforts by national governments, international organizations and civil society."

The report contains 34 recommendations for action by all of these groups, ranging from the creation of education modules, resource guides and online programmes, to the establishment of peace museums and peace parks.

The Chairman of the Expert Group, Mexico's Under Secretary for Foreign Affairs, Miguel Marín Bosch, told reporters today that the study would serve to heighten the UN's coordinating role in promoting disarmament education, and would prompt governments to designate focal points to galvanize the input of all players.

Illustrating the importance of bringing this type of education to the grass-roots, he said, "Just think of what a seven- or eight-year old knows about the environment, or a 15- or 20-year old - it's miles and miles away from what he knows or she knows on disarmament and nuclear weapons and small arms." The study's recommendations aim to reverse this trend, he added.

17 posted on 10/09/2002 7:40:55 PM PDT by USA21
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To: chance33_98
This 'fingerprint' misnomer rates with cop killer bullets and plastic guns as one of the most widely reported lies related to firearms. Gun control groups know that the microscopic impressions and scratches will not remain constant, even through just a few shots. The only reason they promote this system is to register owners.
18 posted on 10/09/2002 8:05:11 PM PDT by Djarum
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To: Djarum
Gun control groups know that the microscopic impressions and scratches will not remain constant, even through just a few shots.

Worse than that, there's really no guarantee that a particular pattern of bullet- or case markings is unique. This doesn't matter too much if the spent round is used to bolster a case; if they have the suspected weapon and it matches the spent round as well or better than 99 out of 100 similar weapons, that's a useful piece of additional evidence. On the other hand, if police start their investigation by identifying the 1,000 guns in their records whose markings are a plausible match for the found round, they've just compromised their investigation. After all, if there are 1,000 possible murder weapons, someone is bound to own one; the fact that a particular person happens to own one establishes nothing about his guilt.

19 posted on 10/09/2002 10:05:05 PM PDT by supercat
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Maryland watch ping
20 posted on 10/10/2002 6:47:43 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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