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BREAKING: One more shooting in DC area
FOXNEWS

Posted on 10/09/2002 7:12:22 PM PDT by rintense

FOXNEWS just reported that another shooting has happened in the DC area (Prince George?). A man was shot an killed at a gas station.


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To: baloo3
The press conference is called off or postponed 20 minutes?
541 posted on 10/09/2002 9:43:32 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: baloo3
That may be good news. If they had no witnesses, no additional clues and only a dead victim they may have had the conference. It would be great if they had enough of a sighting that they might run across the killer[s] before they schedule another one.
542 posted on 10/09/2002 9:44:08 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Fred Mertz
Oh, if it's a long gun, 223 etc, it's a safe bet that this is sniper guy.....But then again, always the possibility of a copy cat lunatic......
543 posted on 10/09/2002 9:44:58 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Route66
I think murder by fire arm, in a public area will not be that popular in the area by people other than this suspect.

If you want to kill somebody, and you are in the area, now is not the time to go shoot them at a gas station with the LE at full alert. I would say chances are very strong that this is the guy.

544 posted on 10/09/2002 9:45:26 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Ingtar
Sorry to keep pinging you..

Looking at the map..it's starting to resemble a pitchfork isn't it..
545 posted on 10/09/2002 9:45:37 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Ligeia
"The psychologist can't help lamenting the fact Virginia doesn't register long guns or "this crime would be solved by now.""

That's 'cause he's got a fibonacci spiral up his area of power.

546 posted on 10/09/2002 9:45:39 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
THanks for the history tid bit. I had never heard of it before. Bull run doesn't even ring a bell at this point. (Wasn't that a baseball movie?) :D

Well, if you're a Mule, you must be okay. My mamma was born in Joplin. She says she used to carry a rifle to school in order to protect her from the wild pigs. That could be a fib, but I think it's probably true.

547 posted on 10/09/2002 9:46:10 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: chnsmok
If this is related, you're right that we're back to sniper No. 1 or at least his philosophy of "kill" not wound AND the possibility of a second cell operating west of DC.

If this is related and we connect the dots, DC is now surrounded.

Sac

548 posted on 10/09/2002 9:46:13 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau
If this is related and we connect the dots, DC is now surrounded.

You are soooo right!

549 posted on 10/09/2002 9:48:15 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Virginia Shooting Probed for Possible Link

AP Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, right and D.C. Police Chief Charles Ramsey Thursday, October 10, 2002

BALTIMORE — A man was shot and killed while pumping gas in a Virginia station on Wednesday night. Authorities are investigating whether or not the murder is linked to the sniper who has terrorized the Washington area for a week.

Meanwhile, a tarot card with the words "Dear policeman, I am God" emerged as a potential clue.

Tarot cards, used mainly for fortune-telling, are believed to have been introduced into western Europe by Gypsies in the 15th century. Many tarot enthusiasts say the Death card usually does not connote physical death, but instead portrays a symbolic change or transformation.

Virginia State Police said two males were seen driving away in a white vehicle after the shooting at the station in Prince William County, near Manassas, 25 miles west of the nation's capital.

Prince William County police spokeswoman Sgt. Kim Chinn said one man was killed. Chinn said she had few details to release. She said police did not know where the shots came from, or how many shots were fired.

Police had blocked off several streets around the gas station, and they were interviewing people at the scene.

FNC "We are still very preliminarily beginning this investigation," Chinn said. "We have been in contact with the officials from Maryland and the task force there, so we are sharing any information we have."

The tarot card was found near a shell casing outside a middle school in Bowie, where a 13-year-old boy was critically wounded by a gunman Monday, a source familiar with the investigation said on condition of anonymity.

Authorities said the shell was .223-caliber, the same kind of bullet used to kill six people and wound another in Washington and its Maryland and Virginia suburbs in the last week. The casing is believed to be the first one recovered since the slayings began.

Michael Bouchard, an agent with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, would not say whether authorities had linked the casing to the attacks.

Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose also wouldn't comment when asked about the tarot card, and angrily suggested unapproved information had been leaked.

"I need to make sure I don't do anything to hinder our ability to bring this person or these people into custody," Moose said.

AP Tuesday: Police officers stand guard outside the Benjamin Tasker Middle School in Bowie, Md. The message left on the tarot card called the Death card was first reported by WUSA-TV and then by The Washington Post. Police sources told the newspaper the items were found 150 yards from the school in a wooded area on matted grass, suggesting the gunman had lain in wait.

Crime experts, while noting that the link between the card and the sniper remained unconfirmed, recalled other serial killers who left "calling cards."

One of the most notorious was David Berkowitz, who killed six people in New York in 1976-77. He wrote a letter to newspaper columnist Jimmy Breslin and left a note addressed to a police detective that said: "I am a monster. I am the 'Son of Sam."'

Robert K. Ressler, a former FBI profiler, interviewed Berkowitz after his arrest.

"He said this was a stimulating thing for him to see the letters in the paper," Ressler said. "Even though he's the only one who knows, notoriety becomes very satisfying to an inadequate loser. It's a way of imposing power and control over society."

Ressler recalled one previous case, in 1970, where a multiple murderer left a tarot card -- the slayings of a wealthy ophthalmologist and his family near Santa Cruz, Calif. The killer was captured and sentenced to life in prison.

The motive for the seemingly random attacks remains unknown. Nearly 200 investigators are working their way through some 8,000 tips. One tip sent them on a fruitless search of woods behind a school in Prince George's County, but nothing was found.

All the victims have been felled by a single bullet. Investigators say the sniper, or snipers, fired from a distance with a high-powered hunting or military-style rifle.

The wounded boy remained in critical condition Wednesday, but is considered to be stable. Ballistics tests forensically linked the bullet that struck him to those that killed some of the others and wounded a woman in Virginia.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


550 posted on 10/09/2002 9:48:23 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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To: berkeleybeej
Lightening on the Tower card
551 posted on 10/09/2002 9:48:58 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: vikingchick
Maybe the perp's name is Michael?

I think he is using the "angel of death" angle.

I have had the opportunity to work on weapons for military snipers, and some of them like to use names like this.

One used the call sign "Archangel", 2 others were "Stormbringer" and "Mournblade" (a team, names taken from Moorcock's Elric series, they were the names of 2 soul sucking swords), another was "Balthus", (a hero in a Conan novel who fought off a pictish horde), another was Jacob McCandles (even though John Wayne wasn't a sniper in the movie), Another was "Joe Kidd" (after the Eastwood movie of the same name), etc. etc, etc. BTW as far as I know these guys are long retired so I'm not giving up any secrets

The names they pick have something to do with their egos, and if this sniper is leaving "death" cards or associating himself with the Archangel Michael, he is trying to portray himself as the same calibre of man, even if he isn't.

552 posted on 10/09/2002 9:49:12 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Ligeia
WMAL is saying the press conference was delayed.

Channel 5 is saying it was cancelled and when they have some information to release, they will schedule a press conference.

Channel 5 said it would be a long night.

553 posted on 10/09/2002 9:50:22 PM PDT by relee
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To: Sacajaweau
Most people who work in the DC area live in the areas being targeted. What better way to terrorize the capital and hit the economy than to have everyone afraid to leave their homes, go to work, go to school, go shopping.
554 posted on 10/09/2002 9:50:42 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Sacajaweau
Virginia State Police said two males were seen driving away in a white vehicle after the shooting at the station in Prince William County, near Manassas, 25 miles west of the nation's capital.

555 posted on 10/09/2002 9:51:44 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
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To: Sacajaweau
Where is the map? Link please.
556 posted on 10/09/2002 9:51:50 PM PDT by chnsmok
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To: WRhine
So far there is no hard evidence to the number of killers involved. It could be just one.

Everything we post here is pure speculation, based on what we're told... I just happen to believe, given what I read and learn from the shootings, that they are two. I even believe that they are very young (late teens, early adults), but if they indeed arrested a "man", then I'm already wrong about that one...

557 posted on 10/09/2002 9:52:28 PM PDT by Elenya
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To: Boiler Plate; tutstar
I just dug out Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. Bible refers to Michael in Daniel 10:13, 10:21, Dan.12:1, Jude v.9 (it's short, no chapters in Jude)and Rev.12:7. No reference to him judging us. Don't think I missed anything...
558 posted on 10/09/2002 9:54:01 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: Sacajaweau
Look at my posts #'s 526, 533 491

and

Here is the post i was replying to:
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

A line connecting the dots looks like some of the gang graffiti I was this week in Chicago.


471 posted on 10/9/02 11:15 PM Central by Ingtar
559 posted on 10/09/2002 9:54:34 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
While Wiccans have probably took the Hebrew meaning of the name Michael as their own, it is indeed a Hebrew name meaning Who is like God.

When these shootings first happened, I honestly thought it was DC gang bangers, now I know my first impression was wrong. Now we have reports of two men at two difference scenes taking away from the "long gunman" scenario. If this is Muslim Fundamentalists, they sure are doing a good job of terrorizing people.

btw, check out http://www.israelmybeloved.com/people/hebrew_names/boys.htm
560 posted on 10/09/2002 9:54:53 PM PDT by Brytani
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