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Prosecutors Downplay Racial Element in Kansas Murder Trial
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 10/10/02 | Jim Burns

Posted on 10/10/2002 10:08:53 PM PDT by kattracks

Editorial note: Readers may find some material in this article objectionable.)

(CNSNews.com) - Prosecutors in Wichita, Kan. are seeking the death penalty for two African-American brothers accused of murdering five white people and wounding a sixth in a shooting spree that has become known locally as the "Wichita Massacre" and the "Wichita Horror."

Some residents in the area claim the murders would have been prosecuted as hate crimes had the skin color of the alleged gunmen and their victims been reversed. However, Sedgwick County, Kansas District Attorney Nola Foulston reportedly said she would not charge the suspects with committing hate crimes because she believes the murders were motivated by robbery and not racial hatred.

Foulston noted that the state of Kansas does not have a hate crime statute. She refused interview requests from CNSNews.com for more comment on the story.

A spokesman for Foulston said the district attorney is under a gag order not to talk about the case until it's over. Attorneys Val Wachtel and Jay Greeno representing the defendants, Jonathan and Reginald Carr, confirmed they were also under a gag order.

A spokesperson for Sedgwick County District Judge Paul Clark, who is the presiding judge in the case, told CNSNews.com that the gag order was imposed during the jury selection and other pre-trial activity and was not in effect now.

Meanwhile, trial testimony continued Thursday.

The Carr brothers have been charged with 113 counts of murder, robbery, rape and other crimes. The two are accused of unleashing a crime spree that began Dec. 7, 2000 when they allegedly kidnapped a 23-year old man from a Wichita convenience store and robbed him.

Several days later, according to prosecutors, the Carrs shot a female outside her Wichita home. She died several days later from her injuries.

On Dec.14, the Carrs allegedly broke into the home of three young men who were hosting two female guests. Later that night, prosecutors said the Carrs drove the five people to a deserted soccer field, forced them to kneel in the snow and shot each of them in the back of the head.

Prosecutors said the brothers then drove a truck over the four dead bodies.

The surviving female, whose name is not being released, testified Wednesday that she ran naked for over a mile in freezing temperatures to the nearest house to get help. She also testified that a plastic hair clip deflected the bullet and prevented it from entering her skull.

She identified both Jonathan and Reginald Carr as the armed intruders who attacked her.

Her four friends who died were identified as Jason Befort, a local high school teacher; Brad Heyka, a director of finance with a local financial services company; Heather Muller, a local preschool teacher; and Aaron Sandler, a former financial analyst who had been studying to become a priest.

The trial is expected to last four to six weeks. It has sparked debate within the Wichita citizenry.

"If this had been two white males accused of killing four black individuals, the media would be on a feeding frenzy and every satellite news organization would be in Wichita doing live reports," said Trent Hungate of Wichita in a recent letter to the Wichita Eagle newspaper.

The Wichita Eagle itself, in its Thursday editorial, wrote "reliving horrible crime is hard for the community."

"The defendants are being fairly treated by the court and aggressively defended by their lawyers. We must presume their innocence until they are proved guilty. They are getting their day in court. So are the victims," the paper stated.

"The randomness of the attacks was especially chilling. It could have been anyone. But we go on with our work, hold our loved ones a little closer, and face down our fears as best we can. The survivors are showing us how," the editorial concluded.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: blackracism; hatecrimes; mediabias; murder; nolafoulston; racism; rape; sedgwickcounty; sodomy; wichitahorror; wichitamassacre
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To: kattracks
One of the shareholders in the firm I work for lost his nephew in this crime spree. The only way race figures into this is that the defendants and victims are all members of the human race. Some are more worthy of this honor than others.
61 posted on 10/11/2002 9:46:38 AM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: kattracks
Some residents in the area claim the murders would have been prosecuted as hate crimes had the skin color of the alleged gunmen and their victims been reversed.

I know that I hate crime!
62 posted on 10/11/2002 9:47:51 AM PDT by AdA$tra
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To: Black Agnes
--We have to stop playing the game of the left.--

The argument for opposing hate crime legislation is not diminished, but rather enhanced, by showing that the left applies such laws with a double standard.

63 posted on 10/11/2002 9:48:24 AM PDT by republicman
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To: Psycho Francis
--I'll stick with asking you why you think there needs to be a hate-crime enhancement for this particular crime........

It should be obvious. Because the laws should be equally applied to blacks as they are to whites.

64 posted on 10/11/2002 10:00:37 AM PDT by republicman
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To: enfield
My apologies the other e-mail addresses don;t work this one does

da@sedgwick.gov
65 posted on 10/11/2002 10:11:22 AM PDT by republicman
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To: Black Agnes
The whole 'hate crime' mantra is just stupid...

The Hate Crime mantra is political in nature.

Thats why its so dangerous.

66 posted on 10/11/2002 10:22:35 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Free State Four
Yes, Mr. Editorial Board of the WEB. But it is statistically flabbergasting that 100% of the randomly chosen victims were of the same racial makeup.

I find it interesting that the Carr brothers drove a good distance from the part of Wichita in which they resided (the black section perhaps?) in order to pick victims "at random" to rob, rape, and murder.

67 posted on 10/11/2002 10:30:34 AM PDT by usadave
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To: usadave
--I find it interesting that the Carr brothers drove a good distance from the part of Wichita in which they resided (the black section perhaps?) in order to pick victims "at random" to rob, rape, and murder.--

Yes, perhaps there was another reason other than race, but since the DEMOCRAT DA declined to investigate, AND even sealed certain records (records which were not sealed in prosecutions where victims were black) The violent nature, and the fact that they went well outside their own neighborhood One cannot help but look in that direction.

IMO because the DA is a democrat and needs a certain percentage of the black vote in order to get elected she is concealing the truth because she doesn't want to offend her base.

It appears to be yet another example of democrat lust for power over ethical conduct. Hopefully the white voters who have been betrayed will bear this in mind in the next election.
68 posted on 10/11/2002 11:43:58 AM PDT by republicman
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To: republicman
Why not stop counting counts when you get high enough for the death penalty and stop there?

Because that would rest on the assumption that the defendants were convicted of all counts and that none got thrown out on subsequent appeals.

Basically, you charge them with whatever you think the jury could possibly buy. In this case, it's 113.

69 posted on 10/11/2002 11:47:36 AM PDT by Conagher
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To: Conagher
--Basically, you charge them with whatever you think the jury could possibly buy. In this case, it's 113.---

Could've been more with a few hate crime counts thrown in


70 posted on 10/11/2002 12:16:53 PM PDT by republicman
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To: republicman
So we should say..., tack on a few years to that death penalty they'll probably get.

Ok, now I see where you're coming from.....

Oh, hey, while you're at it - please post some support for the Kansas race factor enhancement law that has only been mentioned by you....

It should be obvious. Because the laws should be equally applied to blacks as they are to whites.

71 posted on 10/11/2002 12:24:54 PM PDT by Psycho Francis
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To: Psycho Francis
See my post #69.
72 posted on 10/11/2002 12:26:13 PM PDT by Conagher
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To: ImphClinton
As I recall from earlier stories, after raping the surviving victim, one of the guys asked her if she's ever been with a black man before, or something along those lines.
73 posted on 10/11/2002 12:30:50 PM PDT by Sloth
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To: Psycho Francis
Once again you fail to grasp the obvious (is your thorizine not working today?)

Equal application of the laws regardless of race.

Do you get it yet?

If not please go back to Democrats.com and leave the discussion of this to the grownups.


74 posted on 10/11/2002 12:33:02 PM PDT by republicman
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To: republicman
Far less than half, of course. Probably only 10 of the counts carry the death penalty.

Why charge them with more than 'necessary'? Well, since you're obviously not an attorney, we'll make it short & simple:

Part of it is housekeeping - only 1 of the rape / murders would be sufficient for the death penalty, presumably, but then that would leave a whole lotta unresolved crimes, wouldn't it?

And part of it is closure for the victim's families - I doubt you'd want to be a member of the family of a victim whose murder wasn't charged.

The previous poster's comment about appeals doesn't quite ring true - since all counts are being tried at once, most appealable / reversible errors would attach to all of the counts (one exception being an error in jury instructions pertaining to a particular count).

Ther endeth the lesson.....

If dead is dead, then why all those counts? I bet less than half of those 113 would have been enough for the death penalty. Why not stop counting counts when you get high enough for the death penalty and stop there?

75 posted on 10/11/2002 12:37:52 PM PDT by Psycho Francis
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To: Psycho Francis
---Well, since you're obviously not an attorney, we'll make it short & simple:---

LOL! And I bet you're an attorney.

Let's see. A goof calling themselves (quite appropo I might add) "Psycho". who childishly rearranges quotes and responses. Who can't offer a legitimate argument to save his/her life Are an attorney?

BWAHAHAHAHA




76 posted on 10/11/2002 12:42:35 PM PDT by republicman
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To: republicman
As I requested previously - please post some support for the Kansas race factor enhancement law that has only been mentioned by you....

Equal application of the laws regardless of race.

Do you get it yet?

77 posted on 10/11/2002 12:45:31 PM PDT by Psycho Francis
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To: Psycho Francis
--Part of it is housekeeping - only 1 of the rape / murders would be sufficient for the death penalty, presumably, but then that would leave a whole lotta unresolved crimes, wouldn't it?--

Nonsense call them solved and they are.

--And part of it is closure for the victim's families - I doubt you'd want to be a member of the family of a victim whose murder wasn't charged.---

Closure would well have added hate crime to the list, after all wasn't it James Byrd's daughter who said not having a hate crime charge "was like having her father murdered all over again"?

Psycho Francis, Attorney at Law?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!



78 posted on 10/11/2002 12:47:13 PM PDT by republicman
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To: republicman
I said 'unresolved', not 'unsolved', but the difference eludes some folks, I suppose.

You have a real hate crime bug up the a$$, don't you? As I said, I kept it simple, especially for you....

Third request - please post some support for the Kansas race factor enhancement law that has only been mentioned by you....

79 posted on 10/11/2002 12:53:07 PM PDT by Psycho Francis
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To: Psycho Francis
--As I requested previously - please post some support for -the Kansas race factor enhancement law that has only been mentioned by you....--

And As I said earlier, the Liberal DA would never enforce such laws so why would I advocate them.

As it follows (except in your tiny little demented brain) these laws are not enforced equally, but rather are a cynical political tool of the left. Therefore there should be no such laws.
80 posted on 10/11/2002 12:55:28 PM PDT by republicman
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