Prosecutors Downplay Racial Element in Kansas Murder Trial

CNSNEWS.com ^ | 10/10/02 | Jim Burns

[AdA$tra]

One of the shareholders in the firm I work for lost his nephew in this crime spree. The only way race figures into this is that the defendants and victims are all members of the human race. Some are more worthy of this honor than others.

[AdA$tra]

Some residents in the area claim the murders would have been prosecuted as hate crimes had the skin color of the alleged gunmen and their victims been reversed.

I know that I hate crime!

[republicman]

--We have to stop playing the game of the left.--

The argument for opposing hate crime legislation is not diminished, but rather enhanced, by showing that the left applies such laws with a double standard.

[republicman]

--I'll stick with asking you why you think there needs to be a hate-crime enhancement for this particular crime........

It should be obvious. Because the laws should be equally applied to blacks as they are to whites.

[republicman]

My apologies the other e-mail addresses don;t work this one does

da@sedgwick.gov

[skeeter]

The whole 'hate crime' mantra is just stupid...

The Hate Crime mantra is political in nature.

Thats why its so dangerous.

[usadave]

Yes, Mr. Editorial Board of the WEB. But it is statistically flabbergasting that 100% of the randomly chosen victims were of the same racial makeup.

I find it interesting that the Carr brothers drove a good distance from the part of Wichita in which they resided (the black section perhaps?) in order to pick victims "at random" to rob, rape, and murder.

[republicman]

--I find it interesting that the Carr brothers drove a good distance from the part of Wichita in which they resided (the black section perhaps?) in order to pick victims "at random" to rob, rape, and murder.--

Yes, perhaps there was another reason other than race, but since the DEMOCRAT DA declined to investigate, AND even sealed certain records (records which were not sealed in prosecutions where victims were black) The violent nature, and the fact that they went well outside their own neighborhood One cannot help but look in that direction.

IMO because the DA is a democrat and needs a certain percentage of the black vote in order to get elected she is concealing the truth because she doesn't want to offend her base.

It appears to be yet another example of democrat lust for power over ethical conduct. Hopefully the white voters who have been betrayed will bear this in mind in the next election.

[Conagher]

Why not stop counting counts when you get high enough for the death penalty and stop there?

Because that would rest on the assumption that the defendants were convicted of all counts and that none got thrown out on subsequent appeals.

Basically, you charge them with whatever you think the jury could possibly buy. In this case, it's 113.

[republicman]

--Basically, you charge them with whatever you think the jury could possibly buy. In this case, it's 113.---

Could've been more with a few hate crime counts thrown in

[Psycho Francis]

So we should say..., tack on a few years to that death penalty they'll probably get.

Ok, now I see where you're coming from.....

Oh, hey, while you're at it - please post some support for the Kansas race factor enhancement law that has only been mentioned by you....

It should be obvious. Because the laws should be equally applied to blacks as they are to whites.

[Conagher]

See my post #69.

[Sloth]

As I recall from earlier stories, after raping the surviving victim, one of the guys asked her if she's ever been with a black man before, or something along those lines.

[republicman]

Once again you fail to grasp the obvious (is your thorizine not working today?)

Equal application of the laws regardless of race.

Do you get it yet?

If not please go back to Democrats.com and leave the discussion of this to the grownups.

[Psycho Francis]

Far less than half, of course. Probably only 10 of the counts carry the death penalty.

Why charge them with more than 'necessary'? Well, since you're obviously not an attorney, we'll make it short & simple:

Part of it is housekeeping - only 1 of the rape / murders would be sufficient for the death penalty, presumably, but then that would leave a whole lotta unresolved crimes, wouldn't it?

And part of it is closure for the victim's families - I doubt you'd want to be a member of the family of a victim whose murder wasn't charged.

The previous poster's comment about appeals doesn't quite ring true - since all counts are being tried at once, most appealable / reversible errors would attach to all of the counts (one exception being an error in jury instructions pertaining to a particular count).

Ther endeth the lesson.....

If dead is dead, then why all those counts? I bet less than half of those 113 would have been enough for the death penalty. Why not stop counting counts when you get high enough for the death penalty and stop there?

[republicman]

---Well, since you're obviously not an attorney, we'll make it short & simple:---

LOL! And I bet you're an attorney.

Let's see. A goof calling themselves (quite appropo I might add) "Psycho". who childishly rearranges quotes and responses. Who can't offer a legitimate argument to save his/her life Are an attorney?

BWAHAHAHAHA

[Psycho Francis]

As I requested previously - please post some support for the Kansas race factor enhancement law that has only been mentioned by you....

Equal application of the laws regardless of race.

Do you get it yet?

[republicman]

--Part of it is housekeeping - only 1 of the rape / murders would be sufficient for the death penalty, presumably, but then that would leave a whole lotta unresolved crimes, wouldn't it?--

Nonsense call them solved and they are.

--And part of it is closure for the victim's families - I doubt you'd want to be a member of the family of a victim whose murder wasn't charged.---

Closure would well have added hate crime to the list, after all wasn't it James Byrd's daughter who said not having a hate crime charge "was like having her father murdered all over again"?

Psycho Francis, Attorney at Law?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Psycho Francis]

I said 'unresolved', not 'unsolved', but the difference eludes some folks, I suppose.

You have a real hate crime bug up the a$$, don't you? As I said, I kept it simple, especially for you....

Third request - please post some support for the Kansas race factor enhancement law that has only been mentioned by you....

[republicman]

--As I requested previously - please post some support for -the Kansas race factor enhancement law that has only been mentioned by you....--

And As I said earlier, the Liberal DA would never enforce such laws so why would I advocate them.

As it follows (except in your tiny little demented brain) these laws are not enforced equally, but rather are a cynical political tool of the left. Therefore there should be no such laws.