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Sniper Awareness in the DC Area: Tips on Surviva;
Forwarded Email | 11 Oct 02 | Unknown

Posted on 10/11/2002 3:21:12 PM PDT by texson66

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To: texson66
Do any other FReepers have other safety tips?

exercise your 2nd amendment rights ....

21 posted on 10/11/2002 3:58:01 PM PDT by clamper1797
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To: Mat_Helm
:)
22 posted on 10/11/2002 3:58:14 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: texson66
Very good advice, especially the part about approaching building entrances and entering/exiting vehicles. One thing I would suggest if you are placing into or retreiving items from a vehicle is to bend or crouch slightly using the vehicle as cover as much as possible making for a more difficult target.
23 posted on 10/11/2002 3:58:49 PM PDT by semaj
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To: Demian
Carrying around a digital camera can be very useful.

Go one step further, and send up a high altitude reconnaissance aircraft with wide angle, high resolution camera's and have it orbit for a few days. When the next shooting occurs, look at the images....

I am confident, that if this continues, they will do this, if they are not already....

24 posted on 10/11/2002 4:02:01 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: texson66
This Sniper killing people in the DC Metro area is a skilled sharpshooter and very calculated.

Based upon experience and professional observations (you know, all the experts at FR), this line raises too many flags. Unless the writer knows what the police know, there is no way to prove that skill of the shooter.

I agree with other comments along the lines of ... the shooter knows enough to be dangerous, and may have some skills, but is NOT an expert. I have not seen a report that suggests the shooter is lining up 500 yards away. One shot, one kill is indeed a snipers creed. Not even the police suggest that they are dealing with a professional sniper (say ex-Spetnaz or a true military sniper).

The author of this email is correct in many areas, but when the DC police find the shooter I don't think anyone will confuse him with a real pro.

25 posted on 10/11/2002 4:04:37 PM PDT by texas booster
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To: El Sordo
But the rest of us were having so much fun.......

Yeah, post a DOA vanity, then humourlessly have it yanked when it comes to life on its own. What can one say?

26 posted on 10/11/2002 4:04:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: texson66
Rule #1. If you need gas, watch cable news. If you hear of a shooting at some distance from you, go get your gas. Otherwise, get it on remote roads, not on a major highway.

Failing that, tell your wife to fill up the car.
27 posted on 10/11/2002 4:06:57 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: texson66
From AP (via SierraTimes.com)

BALTIMORE (AP) - Men who spent their careers studying snipers are giving civilians in the Washington suburbs the kind of advice they once gave to people accustomed to living in the line of fire: Keep moving. Look for cover.

Dark, out-of-the-way spots may be the safest places for people to buy groceries or pump gas, said retired Maj. John Plaster, former Army Green Beret and author of ``The Ultimate Sniper,'' a police and military training manual. He offered the advice Thursday to people in counties surrounding Washington, where sniper attacks have terrorized people for nine days.

``If you look at where the night shootings have taken place, they were well illuminated,'' Plaster said. ``Think about how well lit a gas station is at night when you're pumping gas.''

People striking up conversations in line at the supermarket, with their neighbors, and on hotlines to crisis centers are talking about how to keep themselves and their families safe. Dean H. Meyers, 53, shot Wednesday after stopping for gas in Manassas, Va.,. was the seventh to die in the shootings.

Don Bassett, a former FBI instructor who trained agents to be snipers, said people should make themselves difficult targets. Anyone in an open area should keep moving - especially if the area is surrounded by woods or rolling terrain, he said. Anyone getting out of a car should avoid the most brightly lit areas of service stations or parking lots.

Bassett said quiet, country roads may be safer than busy streets for taking a walk or a jog. He calls schools and service stations ``target-rich areas'' because they see a constant flow of traffic.

``I think he's picking targets of opportunity that are more or less plums,'' Bassett said.

People walking quickly are harder to shoot, he said.

Plaster said people should also be aware when they're standing in an area where they're visible from more than 80 to 100 yards away. He said it's not difficult for a trained marksman to hit a target from that distance.

``I would try to be more alert, but at the same time you have to go on with your life,'' Plaster said.

Bassett said the sniper could be firing from up to 500 yards away.

``I don't think people should be paranoid as they go about their daily business, but I think they should be very aware of what's around them,'' he said.

28 posted on 10/11/2002 4:09:48 PM PDT by hattend
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To: jackbill
Or, you could always drive to Pittsburgh to fill up.
29 posted on 10/11/2002 4:12:13 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: null and void
Military of hunter's garb might make you stand out a bit.

You're right, I should have qualified my statement to say wear camofalge suitable to the environment. You made some good city camo suggestions. I like grey clothing, it avoids sharp outlines and blends into almost everything in the city. Works day or night (much better than black at night).

30 posted on 10/11/2002 4:16:49 PM PDT by templar
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To: jackbill
Failing that, tell your wife to fill up the car.

And who'll press your trousers, huh? I think it would be better to send out your mother-in-law!

31 posted on 10/11/2002 4:17:02 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: jackbill
Don't leave home till the first kill of the day has occured....seems s/he's only killing one per day now. Or send your mother in law out for fuel.........(ya beat me to it JB !)

Real World ...........folks there is NO DEFENSE against such attacks short of a deep hole. This trash lays in wait long enough for targets of opportunity he'll get what s/he wants..........Its up to the survivors in the area to report the mistake this trash "will hopefully" make soon.....or kill him on sight . Nope never mind MD /DC not a CCW/CHL state......

Stay Safe !

32 posted on 10/11/2002 4:19:19 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: texson66
Do any other FReepers have other safety tips?

Yeah, ride around on a camel and wear a rag on your head.
33 posted on 10/11/2002 4:21:33 PM PDT by Hemlock
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To: Mat_Helm
Gas Station Fill Up: Wear black at night and cabelas camo during the day. Throw smoke before exiting the vehicle and use a bb-gun to shoot out overhead lights at night. Use credit card at pump and use lock handle while filling and stay in motion. Empty clip from CAR15 into air 180 degress opposite side of car before making egress to vehicle after tank is full.

LOL!!!
34 posted on 10/11/2002 4:22:42 PM PDT by Hemlock
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To: Dog Gone
Amen, amen, and amen!! Nobody I've talked to in this area seems to want to consider or even hear this totally indisputable assertion. De numbers, dey doo noht lie!!!

And many FReepers have attempted to flame me over this as well. This "crime wave" appears to have scared some here who, according to their posts over the last few years, have faced much greater danger with professionalism and bravery -- and I have no reason or wish to doubt their accounts of their military service.

I guess it's just too much fun for DC-area denizens being afraid and terrorized. As for me, I worry more about the dumb-ass "Junior G-Man" who might cream me with his SUV while "being on the lookout" for the latest (and probably misindentified) magical sniper-mobile.

Sure, find the bastard fast and cap him, but let's not become hysterical over an 8-in-4 million chance of getting popped ourselves.

BTW, the home of one of the recently slain is less than a block away from ours.....

35 posted on 10/11/2002 4:22:52 PM PDT by tracer
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To: tracer
Naw, let's just panic, it's more fun that way!
36 posted on 10/11/2002 4:26:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: texson66
Thanks and ping for later.

Family movie night is about to start.
37 posted on 10/11/2002 4:27:10 PM PDT by lizma
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To: texson66
possibly flawed sniper profile / avoid-becoming-a-victim suggestion list bang.
38 posted on 10/11/2002 4:32:57 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: hattend
Maybe this is a possible technology for the detection of the sniper... Anti-Sniper
39 posted on 10/11/2002 4:37:16 PM PDT by texson66
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To: Mat_Helm
ROFLMAO!
40 posted on 10/11/2002 4:40:28 PM PDT by bvw
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