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Oklahoma 35, Texas 24
ABC Television, ESPN ^ | 10-12-02 | n/a

Posted on 10/12/2002 4:58:55 PM PDT by OKSooner

Oklahoma 35, Texas 24


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Hats off to the University of Texas, one of the top academic institutions in the country, for a game well played.

Also for having a cool mascot, stupendously good-looking cheerleaders, one of the most inspiring fight songs in all of college football played by one of the best bands. Also, Austin is a beautiful city and an excellent setting for higher learning, located in one of the most beautiful parts of the great state of Texas.

1 posted on 10/12/2002 4:58:55 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Diddle E. Squat; PhiKapMom; VOA
Yo, Diddle!

Sorry it didn't work out the way you said it would. What happened?

2 posted on 10/12/2002 5:00:34 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
Heads up Texas fans. Things could be worse. You could be Auburn fans.
3 posted on 10/12/2002 5:00:50 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: OKSooner
Sooners sux0r.
4 posted on 10/12/2002 5:03:23 PM PDT by Maedhros
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To: OKSooner
"Also for having a cool mascot, stupendously good-looking cheerleaders, one of the most inspiring fight
songs in all of college football played by one of the best bands. Also, Austin is a beautiful city and an
excellent setting for higher learning, located in one of the most beautiful parts of the great state of
Texas."


Lemme guess. Ur a Nebraska fan, right?

5 posted on 10/12/2002 5:07:19 PM PDT by lawdude
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To: Pokey78
Things could be worse. You could be Auburn fans.

Or England fans.


6 posted on 10/12/2002 5:09:35 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: lawdude
No, I'm a Sooner born... I just see a lot to like in the University of Texas. They really do have all that cool stuff, and their cheerleaders make the USC girls look like Tuesday nite dates.

I recall in days past they even had this really cool big ol' bass drum that they'd wheel out on the field on a truck, with a crew of a half-dozen or so guys pushing and pulling it. Even one of my best friends is a UT grad.

What else can I say?

7 posted on 10/12/2002 5:14:23 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner
Poooooooooooor teasips!
8 posted on 10/12/2002 5:16:10 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: OKSooner
Go Sooners!

Go Sooners!

Go Sooners!

9 posted on 10/12/2002 5:16:33 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: lonestar
Poooooooooooor teasips!
My sentiments, exactly.
10 posted on 10/12/2002 5:22:20 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: OKSooner; PhiKapMom
I did my part to assure the Sooner victory.
No west-coast broadcast of the game...so I'm hoping for a repeat of two years ago.

I don't see a regular season game...they win the National Champsionship.

Oh well, some sacrifices must be made...
11 posted on 10/12/2002 5:23:07 PM PDT by VOA
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To: OKSooner
What else can I say?

That you're sorry WE lost!!

12 posted on 10/12/2002 5:25:08 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: OKSooner
Thanks for winning graciously. We, of course, are sick at our stomachs and mad as hell that the coaching staff seemed to be playing not to lose instead of playing to win like OU.

Not to knock Chris Simms, but they treat the guy like a China doll. Wouldn't hail Mary it with 5 seconds left before halftime because we still had the lead... IOW, Chris might throw another interception and lose his "confidence". B.S.!!! The second half, the lame brain coaches never called plays where he threw on 1st or 2nd down. Unfriggingbelievable! Hybl didn't let interceptions bother him. I swear, Mack Brown and his staff are a touchy feely group. Worrying about the QB's psyche lost them this game. Simms should have been able to lose it on his own.
13 posted on 10/12/2002 5:30:13 PM PDT by demkicker
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To: OKSooner
I'm a Husker fan. When is the season over?
14 posted on 10/12/2002 5:35:34 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: OKSooner
Thanks. I'm pretty depressed. :<
15 posted on 10/12/2002 5:38:44 PM PDT by Gorest Gump
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To: demkicker
Yes, I blame the play calling more than Simms. Simms didn't play poorly, but he didn't play great either. The play calling was awful. I hope Mack gets his act together soon.
16 posted on 10/12/2002 5:41:51 PM PDT by Gorest Gump
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To: OKSooner
I agree!!!! Great Game. Beautiful, Classy Cheerleaders.

17 posted on 10/12/2002 5:43:09 PM PDT by jbstrick
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To: OKSooner
So is Oklahoma going to be the Big 12 team that Oregon thumps this year?
18 posted on 10/12/2002 5:46:35 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: OKSooner
I recall in days past they even had this really cool big ol' bass drum that they'd wheel out on the field on a truck, with a crew of a half-dozen or so guys pushing and pulling it.

Big Bertha. We still have it, but I don't think we take it on the road much; not every stadium has room for it on the field.

19 posted on 10/12/2002 5:47:16 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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To: OKSooner
I was upset with the game until I found out the Oklahoma running back was from my hometown, Humble, TX. Now it's not so bad.
20 posted on 10/12/2002 5:49:27 PM PDT by AgentEcho
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To: demkicker
Mack Brown and his staff are a touchy feely group.

The philosophical difference between Austin and Norman, I venture to guess.

21 posted on 10/12/2002 5:50:51 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: OKSooner
Is this the real OK Sooner or a fraud! LOL!!

Boomer Sooner! Now I can watch all the highlights, read my paper in the morning, and listen to the radio this week!

What a game! My son called me on his cell phone from the Cotton Bowl with only a minute left to play as those last fans of Burnt Orange were finding the exits.

Sooner Magic is alive and well! "Q" had a fantastic game!!!! And the final play of the game -- Simms was sacked!

Best coaches in America reside in Norman!!!!!!

22 posted on 10/12/2002 5:51:23 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
Stolen from the U of Iowa...
23 posted on 10/12/2002 5:52:42 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: PhiKapMom
Best coaches in America reside in Norman!!!!!!

But the best coaches originate in Youngstown, Ohio. (Bob Stoops, Oklahoma; Jim Tressel Ohio State)

24 posted on 10/12/2002 5:53:52 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: VOA; OKSooner
I was thinking of you when we had that fantastic 2nd half. So glad to Woolfolk back! I have a favor, please don't watch a regular season game even if it is on TV out there!

Hybl didn't have his best game but "Q" had a fantastic game!


25 posted on 10/12/2002 5:54:06 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
LOL!!!!!!!!!!

That's because the Oklahoma Sooners had more to offer Bob Stoops and his coaches! No one from Iowa even contacted him until he had agreed to come to Norman.

Bob Stoops wanted to come to a program that had a history of winning and he chose wisely. We are lucky to have him and his assistant coaches!

26 posted on 10/12/2002 5:56:44 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
Congrats from a Husker fan in Mountaineer Country! :-)
27 posted on 10/12/2002 5:57:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: dubyaismypresident
Since I am originally from Ohio, I will be glad to second that! Don't forget Miami University either that gave the Country some great coaches over the years!

A lot of talent in the Buckeye State for coaches!
29 posted on 10/12/2002 5:57:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: AgentEcho
"Q" had a fantastic game. You all should be really proud of him.

He is a class act all the way, and we are very fortunate to have him here in Norman!
30 posted on 10/12/2002 5:59:57 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: EternalVigilance
Thanks! Huskers looked a lot better I heard today!
31 posted on 10/12/2002 6:00:35 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Illbay; Ole Okie
LOL!!! There is nothing PC or touchy feely about our coaching staff here in Norman.

I almost cracked up when I heard the announcer say that Texas was downing it at the end of the 1st half because Mack Brown didn't want Simms to have another interception and feel bad. I couldn't believe what I was hearing!

I will take a Defensive Coach turned Head Coach in Bob Stoops who believes in conditioning hard, practicing hard, and playing hard. Most of all he believes in no excuses. We have one of the toughest offseason conditioning in the Nation which I think makes a difference by the 4th Quarter!

Was listening to Thomas Lott on the radio yesterday and he was saying in his Sophomore and Junior year that Switzer and his offensive coordinator played very conservative and called very little option and they lost. So in his Senior year, the coach would send in the plays, and Lott would change them on the field. Said he wasn't going to lose another game to Texas by being conservative and we won his senior season. Lott said you have to go all out to win and forget being conservative.

32 posted on 10/12/2002 6:05:56 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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"Yes, I blame the play calling more than Simms. Simms didn't play poorly, but he didn't play great either. The play calling was awful. I hope Mack gets his act together soon."

He better. Mack better get ready for the barrage of criticism he deserves. He's not very thick skinned, but he needs to suck it up and take the blame for this one.
33 posted on 10/12/2002 6:08:06 PM PDT by demkicker
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To: AgentEcho
My dad and I once had a conversation about college recruiting. I told him that if high school players were required to attend the university in the same state in which they played high school ball, Texas would own the national championship.
34 posted on 10/12/2002 6:08:52 PM PDT by Skooz
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...if high school players were required to attend the university in the same state in which they played high school ball, Texas would own the national championship.

If I'm not mistaken, Florida would still give them a heck of a battle under those circumstances.

35 posted on 10/12/2002 6:11:48 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: OKSooner
What happened? The team with the better coach won. Can't blame this on Chris Simms, with all those dropped balls only 1 interception was his fault. I think we all knew what the end would be when Mack had Simms take a knee at the end of the first half.

Here's what I said on another thread:

"Mack 'Let Down' Brown, will you ever learn anything from Bob Stoops? Bob's calculated aggressiveness at the end of the 2nd quarter is why OU won, and will continue to win championships. Hey Mack, there's more to coaching than recruiting, ever heard of mental preparation, responding to adversity instead of folding?

Can't blame this one on Simms, receivers have to hang onto the ball. Once again, Mack proves he doesn't know how to mentally prepare his team for the big game. Offense was sloppy and tentative, special teams pathetic. The defense played exceptionally well, but just ran out of gas after too many 3 and outs(in effect the OU offense had 5-6 quarters of play). It all started last year when Mack was dumb enough to allow all that Mr. Heisman BS garbage talk. Perform BEFORE you brag. And after the Big 12 Championship fiasco in the same location, where an offsides cost Texas an appearance in the national championship game, you would think at minimum Mack wouldn't let his team repeat the same mistake. But the play of the game was the UT jumping offsides on 4th down at the end of the 2nd quarter, that gave OU a first and goal.

So what happens when Texas falls behind? 3 and out ad naseum, and then folding like pup tent. Team mental weakness, and that falls squarely on the coach's shoulders. Nearly 2 decades ago a Texas coach ultimately defined himself. Texas came into the Cotton Bowl facing Georgia, and would be the undisputed nat'l champs if they simply won. The UT defense was spectacular, Georgia only crossed midfield twice, both due to Texas fumbles deep in their own territory. Yet they converted that into a 10-9 win, and Fred Akers defined himself as the Coach Who Couldn't.

Way to go Mack, at least you'll be enshrined in the Underachiever's Hall of Fame."




36 posted on 10/12/2002 6:13:31 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: OKSooner
OBTW, there is no doubt in my mind that OU should jump Miami for #1.

37 posted on 10/12/2002 6:16:05 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: OKSooner
Hey, I'll give OU this: Ya'll have the best fight song in college football, and one of the best coaches.
38 posted on 10/12/2002 6:17:26 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: EternalVigilance
Well, I told my dad that every once in awhile California or Florida would sneak one in, but I'll bet Texas would win 8 out of 10.

High school football is much much much bigger than NFL or college ball in most of Texas. My grandpa used to live in Brownwood, and I remember the games there were amazing. The whole town would show up. The fan support was unbelievable. It's that way from Waskom to El Paso, and from Wichita Falls to Brownsville.

It borders on religion down there. Plus, every program in the country heavily recruits in Texas. A Sooner friend and I watched a game awhile back and were surprised that about 80% of the Oklahoma players introduced were from Texas.

39 posted on 10/12/2002 6:18:41 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: Skooz
Florida would win the national championship every single year if we had the rule you just discussed. Most of the players from UF, FSU and Miami are from Florida. Making an allstar team from these guys would make them practically unbeatable.
40 posted on 10/12/2002 6:18:51 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Skooz
see post #40...also think about how dominant the Florida teams have been in the last 10+ years.
41 posted on 10/12/2002 6:20:00 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Skooz
Florida and F.S.U are tied for the most players in the N.F.L
42 posted on 10/12/2002 6:21:11 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Like everyone else, Florida teams recruit from all over the country, including Texas.
43 posted on 10/12/2002 6:22:00 PM PDT by Skooz
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I'm a Husker fan. When is the season over?

After they lose to Colorado ; )

44 posted on 10/12/2002 6:23:47 PM PDT by mollynme
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Uuuggggghhhhhhh............Really looking forward to that one.
45 posted on 10/12/2002 6:25:26 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
For about ten years, Grambling had more players in the NFL than any other school.
46 posted on 10/12/2002 6:27:35 PM PDT by Skooz
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Although I like ND, I find it incredible how often the opposing teams have fumbled -- and odd fumbles at that. Makes me wonder if
angels are on the side of Notre Dame
effect of prayer
a rich booster is greasing some palms
ND defense is exceptionally intimitating
47 posted on 10/12/2002 6:30:46 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Skooz
Yeah, that's one of the two reasons these OU losses just burn me up(and probably most Longhorns). It would be one thing to lose to Oklahomans, but to lose to a team that is half Texas traitors, oh my achin' head. UT-A&M is brother versus brother, but UT-OU is us versus the infidel! The other salt in the wounds is that stupid downturned hook'em signs. We have a positive hand symbol of our team and pride, all they have is a negative bash of their opponent.

But I don't want that coming off as sour grapes. Oklahoma is a great conservative state, with good values and good people. And their team has beaten our butts 3 years in a row, are better coached, and thus have been the better team for 3 years in a row, with a nat'l championship on top of that.

I think Mack is safe for another two years, unless he loses ugly in this game again next year, or the team loses 4 more games this year. He needs to show that he's learned from prior mistakes by showing more aggressivenessm, preparation, and mental toughness. I wouldn't give up on him just yet, but some offensive coaching changes are likely in order.

However, in a couple of years, with 4 or 5 OU losses in a row and no NC after 7 years, it might be the end of the line. And if OU insists on moving part of the series to Norman, I could see Texas doing whatever it takes to lure Stoops down to Austin.
48 posted on 10/12/2002 6:36:46 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Skooz
Let's try something. Get on the web and look up three of Texas' best college programs and count how many are from Florida...and I'll look up UF,FSU and Miami and we'll see how many are from Texas and how many are from Florida.

I admit that I don't know a lot about Texas, but I can tell you most assuredly that Florida is HEAVILY recruited by every major program in the nation.

49 posted on 10/12/2002 6:37:20 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Skooz
Jeremy Shockey got over-looked by OK and Texas schools.

I guess he was lucky since he wound up at Miami, All-American on the National Championship team.

50 posted on 10/12/2002 6:37:44 PM PDT by lonestar
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