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AP Finally Reports Wichita Trial... But Mentions "White Supremacist" Support
CNN.com ^

Posted on 10/14/2002 3:43:54 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:01:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WICHITA, Kansas (AP) -- The grim details of how two brothers allegedly committed a nine-day crime rampage that left five people dead are being closely monitored by a community that is still shaken nearly two years after the slayings and more than a month into the brothers' murder trial.


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KEYWORDS: kansas; wichita; wichitamassacre
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To: Rightly Biased
--So if we "Taint" thee, Get over it.--

IMO The only tainting going on that I see is RINO/moderates who don't see when they are being duped by the PC ers.

I, for one, am not going to lie down quietly and let the liberals have their cake and eat it too, no matter what kind of smears they threaten.

Either they will have to get rid of "hate crimes" altogether. Or they will have to apply them equally to all.
41 posted on 10/15/2002 7:17:14 PM PDT by republicman
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To: Johnny Shear
--I never said only racists and white supremists are doing this. I'm sure that's not the case.--

Well, now it should be clear why so many here are angry at the AP article for slandering them as if they were.

--But I'm also sure that there are racists and white supremists doing this... Right here on Free Republic... Unfortunately.--

Can you cite an example?
42 posted on 10/15/2002 7:25:26 PM PDT by republicman
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To: republicman
Well, now it should be clear why so many here are angry at the AP article for slandering them as if they were.

Where was anyone slandered??? The AP simply stated the fact that this case has drawn the attention of white supremists...And that's true...And quite telling.

And no...I won't be citing any examples...No one's told me they're a white supremist...I can only make assumptions based on numerous observations.

43 posted on 10/15/2002 7:34:04 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear
---Where was anyone slandered??? The AP simply stated the fact that this case has drawn the attention of white supremists...And that's true...And quite telling.---

It sure is telling

Its telling just the way it would be telling if the AP said a hand gun ban drew the attention of "gun nuts", or 9-11 drew the attention of "Muslim haters", A partial birth abortion bill drew the attention of "abortion clinic bombers", Questions about Hillary Clinton's ethics drew fire from "people who hate strong women" etc.

Yeah you're right, it is telling. It's telling you if you oppose the left you must be part of a nefarious group with evil motives.

It's also telling that you couldn't see this propaganda for what it is, even though it reeks of biased journalism at its worst.

--And no...I won't be citing any examples (of white supremacists posting on FR)...--

Just as I thought
44 posted on 10/15/2002 8:59:55 PM PDT by republicman
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To: Johnny Shear
Repost -- ignore the last

---Where was anyone slandered??? The AP simply stated the fact that this case has drawn the attention of white supremists...And that's true...And quite telling.---

It sure is telling

Its telling just the way it would be telling if the AP said a hand gun ban "has become the rallying cry of gun nuts across the country" , or 9-11 "has become the rallying cry of Muslim haters accross the country", A partial birth abortion bill "has become the rallying cry for abortion clinic bombers across the country", Questions about Hillary Clinton's ethics "have become the rallying cry for people who hate strong women across the country" etc.

Yeah you're right, it is telling. It's telling you if you oppose the left you must be part of a nefarious group with evil motives. Its also telling that you couldn't see this propaganda for what it is, even though it reeks of biased journalism at its worst.

--And no...I won't be citing any examples...--

Just as I thought.
45 posted on 10/15/2002 9:05:31 PM PDT by republicman
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To: republicman
Seems to me that given the outcome, the smartest thing they could have done would have been to ram the ATM machine, hit a lightpole at an intersection or generally give the perp every reason to flee on foot. This would have brought the cops in on it and given those remaining at the house with the other evil bastard, a chance.

Telling the perps to go ahead and shoot as they stood in the front yard would be preferable as well.

Maybe I just think differently, but when someone points a gun at me, I just assume it's me or them. At that moment the gun pointer has given up any chance of survival.

One has to assume there was probably an element of "do anything and this chick gets it" scare tactics involved. That may well fly, but once the raping starts any thoughts of these guys will leave us alone when done, flies right out the window.

Cooperate with such criminals as long as it takes you to screw up their plans.

Yeah, I know. I would probably be the first person shot. Better that than being raped by these racist bastards. Let em screw a dead man.
46 posted on 10/15/2002 11:29:26 PM PDT by ALS
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To: republicman
Its telling just the way it would be telling if the AP said a hand gun ban "has become the rallying cry of gun nuts across the country" , or 9-11 "has become the rallying cry of Muslim haters accross the country", A partial birth abortion bill "has become the rallying cry for abortion clinic bombers across the country", Questions about Hillary Clinton's ethics "have become the rallying cry for people who hate strong women across the country" etc.

You're forgetting one small FACT...White Supremists DID protest at the trial.

Now who's spreading propaganda???

47 posted on 10/16/2002 3:52:01 AM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear
”The case has become a rallying cry for white supremacist groups across the nation because the suspects are black while all the victims were white. Weeks before the trial was set to begin, a Nazi group held a rally in Topeka where the case was repeatedly cited. “

A few questions: has the case really become a rallying cry for supremacist groups? Please cite the instances. Are there no non-supremacists who are outraged by the national press treatment of this story?

If a Nazi mentions an evil act, does that mean that I am prevented from mentioning the same evil act? The Nazi Autobahn was the prototype of the limited access interstate highway; does that make Interstates evil? Modern day Nazis also complain about press bias. Does that make Conservatives who complain about press bias Neo-Nazis?

If I, as a news reporter, attempt to make this association, I am smearing people by association. That is ugly and evil. And if you attempt to further that smear, you are in the same immoral camp as the AP reporter.

48 posted on 10/16/2002 4:42:10 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner
Please cite the instances.

Weeks before the trial was set to begin, a Nazi group held a rally in Topeka where the case was repeatedly cited.

Duh.

49 posted on 10/16/2002 5:06:27 AM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: who knows what evil?
That "poor little doggie" was not only shot, but was found with his muzzle broken (which has only been mentioned in a few reports I have read). It was determined that the schnauzer's face had been smashed in with a golf club by these monsters. Sick and evil. Hopefully, these creeps will get their express one-way ticket to hell when the same happens to them, once their new roomies in prison get a hold of them and some crowbars. They deserve the death penalty -- but they should be tortured as well --death by painless injection is too good for these monsters.
50 posted on 10/16/2002 6:49:34 AM PDT by hot august night
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To: Johnny Shear
--Now who's spreading propaganda???--

You and the AP.

Whatever white supremacists did, there are still many more good people who just want equal treatement regardless of race (If you remember that's what the civil rights movement was once supposed to be about). The article doesn't bother mentioning them does it?

Of course not, because the intent was propaganda. In effect saying "If you care about this trial then you're with the nazis"

And as Moneyrunner aptly put it

"If I, as a news reporter, attempt to make this association, I am smearing people by association. That is ugly and evil. And if you attempt to further that smear, you are in the same immoral camp as the AP reporter."






51 posted on 10/16/2002 6:56:25 AM PDT by republicman
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To: Hangdog97
I bet if David Duke or someone from The KKK came on here, they would sound something like you.
53 posted on 10/16/2002 7:42:31 AM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear
Interesting how you recognize a smear when its directed at you and respond angrily. But are only to happy to help spread the smears of conservatives by the liberals and their media friends.

Very telling.
54 posted on 10/16/2002 8:04:15 AM PDT by republicman
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To: Johnny Shear; Hangdog97
I agree, everything I've seen Johnny Smear post sounds more like a Farakhaner than a Freeper.
55 posted on 10/16/2002 8:39:52 AM PDT by Urban Cowgirl
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To: Johnny Shear
"Weeks before the trial was set to begin, a Nazi group held a rally in Topeka where the case was repeatedly cited.

Duh."

Other than the AP article, where was this reported? And does this prove it has "become a rallying cry of supremacists?" One problematical rally? Duh back to you.

And I notice that you duck my other questions, nimrod.

56 posted on 10/16/2002 9:19:58 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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To: Johnny Shear
I bet if David Duke or someone from The KKK came on here, they would sound something like you.

And you know what, I'll bet if asked, the Klan would tell you the sky is blue, and the grass is green too! I guess my lawn maintenance guys are all racists, the african american ones too...

57 posted on 10/16/2002 10:10:02 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: Johnny Shear; Hangdog97; Paradox; moneyrunner; Urban Cowgirl; Rightly Biased; Rytwyng
I looked up several posts of Mr. Johnny Shear and it appears all he ever does is say Freepers are-- racist, intolerant Christians, Muslim Haters, White supremacists etc etc

Granted he has a right to his stupid opinions but I think we all should know what this guy is about.
58 posted on 10/16/2002 12:15:20 PM PDT by republicman
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To: republicman
all he ever does

Yeah, that's ALL I ever do...Yep. Of course, if true, you don't have anything to worry about if you're not a racist, do you?

59 posted on 10/16/2002 12:28:33 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: Johnny Shear; republicman
"Of course, if true, you don't have anything to worry about if you're not a racist, do you?"........ or a Christian or a muslim or a__________... heck Johnny you fill in the blank, & who is really "worried"about what you rant on about I can read and laugh because thats what you best for me is make me laugh.
Libs can be the funniest sheepels
60 posted on 10/16/2002 12:40:37 PM PDT by Rightly Biased
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