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Bush Admin. to Study 'Fingerprinting' Guns
Reuters ^ | Adam Entous

Posted on 10/15/2002 7:19:05 PM PDT by hole_n_one

Bush Admin. to Study 'Fingerprinting' Guns
October 15, 2002 09:08 PM ET

By Adam Entous

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Reacting to a deadly series of sniper killings in the Washington area, the White House on Tuesday asked federal law enforcement officials to determine whether "ballistic fingerprinting" technology would be an effective crime fighting tool.

The White House appeared to have a change of heart about the issue after hours earlier expressing doubts about the reliability of such technology and saying it could undermine rights of law abiding gun owners.

The system uses markings from bullets and shell casings like fingerprints to link specific handguns with gun crimes.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said White House domestic policy officials met with representatives of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. "We have asked the ATF to have their experts look into and explore the issues involved to determine if this would be an effective crime-fighting tool" McClellan said.

He said the officials were asked to look into the feasibility and technology, as well as law enforcement experiences in New York and Maryland, two states where ballistic fingerprinting progams are in place.

Earlier, the Bush administration had taken a more dismissive attitude. "New laws don't stop people like this," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said of the sniper, who has killed nine people in two weeks.

"What we must do is ... enforce the laws we have so that people who commit crimes, especially crimes with guns, will be fully prosecuted and serve time."

RIGHTS OF GUN OWNERS

Fleischer said ballistic markings can be easily altered, rendering the "fingerprints" useless. He also suggested a mandatory system of ballistics monitoring could violate the privacy of lawful gun owners.

"It's like saying, do you want to fingerprint every single American, or do you want to just have fingerprints for people who you believed were involved in a crime," Fleischer told reporters. "The president does believe that law-abiding citizens have the right to bear arms."

Gun control groups say the case of the sniper underscored the need for a national "ballistic fingerprinting" law, which would require firearms be test-fired before they were sold and their unique "fingerprints" entered into a computer database accessible to law enforcement agencies.

Although New York and Maryland already keep such records, gun control groups say a national law covering all firearms is needed to give police the tools they need to track shooters like the Washington-area's elusive sniper.

"If you ask any of the hundreds of investigators working to find the sniper, they would very much like to know where the gun first was sold and who first bought it. If we had a national ballistics fingerprinting system in place, they probably would have that information," said Matt Bennett, director of public affairs at Americans for Gun Safety.

Legislation has already been introduced in Congress to create a national system but supporters concede prospects for passage are slim.

The House of Representatives on Tuesday approved separate legislation that would give states incentives to improve databases used in gun background checks. The Senate has yet to act on the measure, which does not expand checks but makes them more accurate because states will supply more complete data.



TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bush; guncontrol; guns
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1 posted on 10/15/2002 7:19:05 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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Bush Opposes Gun 'Fingerprinting'

hmmmmmmm?

2 posted on 10/15/2002 7:20:50 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
Stupid press. "Studying" an issue allows for a systematic dismantling of the idea, complete with facts and figures.
3 posted on 10/15/2002 7:28:55 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: gov_bean_ counter
"Studying" an issue allows for a systematic dismantling of the idea, complete with facts and figures.

From the "opposes" article .........

President Bush does not support the push for firearms "fingerprinting" that has grown from the unsolved Washington-area sniper shootings, because he is not sure of its accuracy, a spokesman said Tuesday.

4 posted on 10/15/2002 7:37:02 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
Bush pushes for this and he will probably end up as a one termer!..I sure will not vote for him again if he does this!
5 posted on 10/15/2002 7:39:40 PM PDT by arly
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Dems are such pandering monkeys. Why not just build a DNA database to go along with their ballistic fingerprints? We could start with minorities and the mentally ill since we know statistically they are most likely to committ crimes. Liberals never think through their idiot, freedom-hating logic.
6 posted on 10/15/2002 7:40:36 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: arly
This is going to be studied for a long, long time. I'd say until January, 2009.
7 posted on 10/15/2002 8:16:52 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: hole_n_one
if they 'study' the way I did in college, then there's no danger of anything coming of it
8 posted on 10/15/2002 8:19:34 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: hole_n_one
Fingerprinting Guns

Fingerprinting guns? Why, that's a novel idea! What's a 'fingerprinting gun'?

9 posted on 10/15/2002 8:20:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: hole_n_one
Rather than give the Democrats a political issue three weeks before the election, the White House is going to study this before laughing the concept out of existence.

Good move.

10 posted on 10/15/2002 8:20:16 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
The one, two, three's of changing a firarms finger print.
1. Stainless steel bore brush attached to drill placed in chamber.
2. Sandpaper end of bolt, extractor, and fireing pin.
3. Round metal punch tapped lightly on end of muzzle.
Liberals haven't any common sense. Now have someone studying this send me a check.
11 posted on 10/15/2002 9:20:54 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
Some very articulate comments reasoning against any "ballistic fingerprinting" legislation can be read here.
12 posted on 10/15/2002 9:38:37 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I sure hope you're right. Otherwise we'll find out too late that the "W" stands for "Weasel".
13 posted on 10/15/2002 9:47:06 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Dog Gone
Rather than give the Democrats a political issue three weeks before the election, the White House is going to study this before laughing the concept out of existence.

I tend to agee

14 posted on 10/15/2002 9:53:22 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: hole_n_one; Caligirl for Bush; Travis McGee; ConservativeLawyer
Awesome......one more law only for people who already follow the laws. Criminals don't follow laws But I'm sure this additional law will do it this time !! Yep not gonna be like the other 200 millions times that the 30 thousand laws already on the books were broke by golly. We gonna make this one stick fer sure.

ya'll stay safe and armed !

15 posted on 10/15/2002 10:25:52 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Squantos
And firing the gun changes the "fingerprint" according to the Second Amendment Fondation. Now what good will the fingerprint really do finding a criminal? It WILL create a database of gun owners for the grabbers to use!
16 posted on 10/15/2002 10:39:02 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: CARepubGal
How'd you change yer FR name like that ??? All my old posts to you changed as I was trying to answer ya ? I thought it was a bad batch of Meyers rum I was drinking and had to toss out the whole drink ?!?!?!?!

Stay Safe !

17 posted on 10/15/2002 10:41:43 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Squantos
It's a pure steaming crock of schaffscheisse, so the lib 'rats will love it and lap it up.
18 posted on 10/16/2002 12:07:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: *bang_list

19 posted on 10/16/2002 12:23:38 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Revolting cat!
>fingerprinting guns<

Maybe they aught to gunprint fingers instead.
20 posted on 10/16/2002 1:14:21 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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