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Account of Sniper May Not Be True (Witness who saw "cream colored van" was making it up)
AP ^ | Oct. 17, 2002 | STEPHEN MANNING

Posted on 10/17/2002 2:33:21 PM PDT by jern

Account of Sniper May Not Be True
39 minutes ago

By STEPHEN MANNING, Associated Press Writer

ROCKVILLE, Md. (AP) - A witness who described the Washington sniper, his assault rifle and his cream-colored van gave police a phony story, investigators said Thursday in a setback that casts doubt on much of what the public thought it knew about the roving killer.

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Prosecutors said the witness could face charges. His name was not immediately released.

Fairfax County police Lt. Amy Lubas said the inaccurate account was exposed by checking it against that of other witnesses to Monday night's killing of an FBI (news - web sites) cyberterrorism analyst in a crowded Virginia parking lot outside a Home Depot. It was the only shooting so far that people actually saw.

Asked if the witness may have intentionally misled investigators, Montgomery County Police Chief Charles Moose, who is heading the investigation, said simply, "Yes."

Investigators had showed a certain optimism after the latest attack seemed to yield the best details yet about the killer. But that gave way to anger Thursday.

Moose said there was no credence to the witness' description of the cream-colored van with a burned-out rear taillight. And while Moose did not give the witness' exact description of the shooter, he chastised reporters for running reports that variously described the gunman as dark-skinned, olive-skinned, Middle Eastern or Hispanic.

"When we have people from the media interviewing witnesses and publishing reports, we get confusion," Moose said. "We get this noise ... out there that gives people tunnel vision and makes them focus in on things that are not appropriate. ... We would like to be able to do our job."

Moose said the witness' emphatic description of the shooter's AK-74 assault rifle is also bogus. But investigators cautioned that they still believe the sniper is using one of a family of more than 30 similar assault-type weapons capable of firing a .223-caliber bullet.

"The message we're trying to say is please keep an open mind," Moose said. "People saw a description of a weapon over the last day and a half and we're convinced they eliminated people they know because they say, `Their gun is not the weapon I saw in the paper.'"

Moose said the disclosure of the fake story, coming a day after investigators said they were unable to draw a composite sketch, was hardly a setback. He said investigators were still chasing leads and he stood by previous composite drawings of vehicles witnesses reported seeing leaving the attacks: a white box truck and a Chevrolet Astro van or Ford Econoline van.

Since Oct. 2, there have been 11 shootings in Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C., that have left nine people dead and two wounded. One of the wounded, a 13-year-old boy shot outside his school in Bowie, Md., was upgraded Thursday from critical to serious condition. The other wounded person, a woman in Virginia, was released from a hospital last week.

The victims were men and women of varying ages and ethnic backgrounds, each hit with a single bullet while going about everyday activities. A tarot death card left at one scene was inscribed: "Dear Policeman, I am God."

Law enforcement sources said the investigation by federal, state and local authorities has led to information about a number of people with high-powered guns, both legally and illegally owned.

A firearms safety instructor said the FBI has been asking registered owners of .223-caliber guns to bring them in for ballistic fingerprinting.

"They're looking for suspects," said Mike Heffernan, owner of Self Defense Technologies in Kensington. "They're looking at people who have a background in firearms, possess .223 weapons, and have the capability of using them."

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On the Net:

Montgomery County police: http://www.co.mo.md.us

FBI: http://www.fbi.gov

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms: http://www.atf.treas.gov


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; charlesmoose; fairfaxcounty; washingtonsniper
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1 posted on 10/17/2002 2:33:21 PM PDT by jern
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To: jern
The Al Queda snipermobile is full of tricks.
2 posted on 10/17/2002 2:38:03 PM PDT by crypt2k
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To: jern
Could face charges?? I'd lock the sumb*tch up for a year--at least.
3 posted on 10/17/2002 2:38:41 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: jern
Why would the guy want to give false info? That just sucks. Wonder if this person is in favor of what this shooter is doing.
4 posted on 10/17/2002 2:40:23 PM PDT by Chaos
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To: Chaos
An accomplice? Hmmmmm.... ...info was designed to mislead and/or confuse police? Hmmmmm.... Something fishy about this... What the hell did the other witnesses see?
5 posted on 10/17/2002 2:43:27 PM PDT by BaghdadBarney
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"Moose said there was no credence to the witness' description of the cream-colored van with a burned-out rear taillight. And while Moose did not give the witness' exact description of the shooter, he chastised reporters for running reports that variously described the gunman as dark-skinned, olive-skinned, Middle Eastern or Hispanic.

"When we have people from the media interviewing witnesses and publishing reports, we get confusion," Moose said. "We get this noise ... out there that gives people tunnel vision and makes them focus in on things that are not appropriate. ... We would like to be able to do our job."

Another example of reporting. Moose clarifies that the one guy with the AK-74 and broken taillight story essentially made it up. He does not say what other witnesses said, as reported by the media, was wrong. Another description called the perp "white."
6 posted on 10/17/2002 2:44:19 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: BaghdadBarney
That is what I was thinking to.
7 posted on 10/17/2002 2:46:37 PM PDT by Chaos
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To: jern
Funny how THIS witness is now the ONLY story....what happened to the other ones?
8 posted on 10/17/2002 2:48:20 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: Shermy
Or was this liar the one who reported that he saw a white man in a blue sweater shoot the woman? Is this liar a muslim?
9 posted on 10/17/2002 2:48:48 PM PDT by per loin
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To: Chaos
Not surprising that some witnesses would exaggerate what they saw in order to be a "hero" and collect that $500,000 reward.
10 posted on 10/17/2002 2:50:39 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: jern
(Witness who saw "cream colored van" was making it up)

Really?

But I thought eye-witness testimony was never wrong (TWA800, OKC bombing and JD#2 sightings)???

</sarcasm>

11 posted on 10/17/2002 2:54:24 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: crypt2k
Fox needs to interview him like they did the nurse in Florida. I would like to hear his side of the story. CD
12 posted on 10/17/2002 3:01:38 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: jern
"Dear Policeman, I am God."

the "man" in policeman leads me to assume english is perhaps a second language....

Regardless, the false-witness creep should be stoned...

EBUCK
13 posted on 10/17/2002 3:02:51 PM PDT by EBUCK
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To: jern
A firearms safety instructor said the FBI has been asking registered owners of .223-caliber guns to bring them in for ballistic fingerprinting

Well at least the cops are making progress. As soon as the shooter brings his murder weapon in, it should only be another coupla weeks before the cops make the match on the ballistic fingerprint and arrest him.

Just be patient, now...

14 posted on 10/17/2002 3:16:03 PM PDT by ibbryn
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To: Shermy
I hope everybody notices this is NOT the same witness as the one who had the two middle eastern looking guys on his bumper, mad because he was in the way.

ME hypothesis is not what cops refuted.
15 posted on 10/17/2002 3:19:14 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: Pharmboy
Better to put the moron on nation wide tv & announce that in this time of crisis this BOOGER EATING DUMBSH*T was giving false/misleading statements about being a witness he will be released on bail from this door of the courthouse/jail at this time & if he happens to get the cr*p beat out of him TOO BAD!
16 posted on 10/17/2002 3:40:57 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: SarahW
ME hypothesis is not what cops refuted.

The guy who lied WAS the sole source for "Olive-skinned" for the shooter, however. According to the evening newscast said witness was actually inside the Home Depot the whole time.

Turns out NO ONE saw the shooting that night. And the "I saw two Middle Easterners" guy didn't see anyone shoot anyone.

17 posted on 10/17/2002 3:46:35 PM PDT by John H K
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To: John H K
We already knew the man who saw the two guys didn't see any shooting. Who thought he did?

He never said he did, and only a fool would have confused his account with that of the other witness (who has since been discredited)
18 posted on 10/17/2002 3:57:46 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: jern
"Moose ... chastised reporters for running reports that variously described the gunman as dark-skinned, olive-skinned, Middle Eastern or Hispanic."

"When we have people from the media interviewing witnesses and publishing reports, we get confusion," Moose said. "We get this noise ... out there that gives people tunnel vision and makes them focus in on things that are not appropriate. ... We would like to be able to do our job."

Sounds like Bullwinkle thinks it inappropriate to notice skin color.

19 posted on 10/17/2002 3:58:57 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: John H K
He's not the sole source for descriptions suitable for BOLO's or composites, however.

THey were seen leaving the scene in quite an anxious hurry.
And they looked middle eastern, and cops should have and should be looking for them.
20 posted on 10/17/2002 4:00:38 PM PDT by SarahW
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