BREAKING - South Korean newspapers report North Korean nuclear test

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/021018/168/2gup3.html ^ | 10/18/02 | AP

[Joe Hadenuf]

We have all kinds of highly sophistacated equipment in South Korea that can easily detect any kind of ground tremors. I would love to sit here a give you an idiot lesson about how sensitive our atmospheric monortoring satellites are and their ability to detect even the slightest change in temperature along with pinpointing the source, But I will let you do your own research. For that mnatter, just turn on the weather channel

Our *sophistacated* equipment? Idiot lessons about how sensitive our atmospheric *monortoring* satellites are? You want to give me an idiot lesson. I guess you would be the best teacher for that!

[henbane]

"I'm a new-killer engineer..."

Carter Wins Nobel Peace Prize in Swipe at Bush

Oh Yeah! Our guys in uniform have to really thank Carter for his "peace" efforts.

Thanks a lot, Jimmy!

[Cindy]

stepping back in time...FOX NEWS.com: "UNITED STATES ACCUSES IRAQ, NORTH KOREA OF DEVELOPING BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS" (November 19, 2001)

[bonesmccoy]

I was referring to the Japanese (who have no nuclear warhead capabilities) and not the Koreans. i regret any confusion due to my loose vernacular.

[MSCASEY]

Guess between all of your nasty little insults you missed my post on the thread the other day BEFORE ANY STORY ABOUT NORTH KOREA CAME OUT!!!

Posted by MSCASEY to redrock; FreedomFriend
On News/Activism Oct 15 11:51 AM #669 of 824

Do either of you know when Bush signed whatever he did for the ICC (International Criminal Court)? I believe that with that signature that for a year they cannot grab the soldiers and take them before the court.

Also Saddam already has nukes! About a year ago I saw compelling evidence to show this. Satellite pictures and testimony from a defector.

Also about 3 and half years ago I was flipping through channels about 3 o'clock in the morning and on c-span I ran across the senate in session. It was chilling. I saw these guys flipped out on how far the development of WMD was in countries such as Iran, North Korea and Iraq. According to what was said there these countries already have the technology. This session was about developing our missile defense system. They decided that there was a great need. I guess that now sending ground troops into a country that has egomaniac madman with nuclear capability in place makes sense to most on this sight. I guess they think that he will be kind and nice enough not to use nukes. I guess time will tell. MCD

We sure hope you are right about being 100% positive that Iraq does not already posses nukes and is not going to use them on our boys!!!

[Snidely Whiplash]

Remember when WE the American taxpayer built the Nuclear Power plant? Clinton was sure it was not going to be used to build bombs......How about a little nuclear blackmail now?

Construction on the first reactor started - wait for it - TWO MONTHS AGO. They aren't complete. There are in fact delays in construction because NK is dodging the IAEA inspection regime. Of course, now it's unlikely they'll ever be completed. A relevant link, from Japan's Asahi newspaper:

August 23, 2002 - KEDO Reactor Program Stalled

The type of reactors that are supposed to be built - light-water reactors - are much harder to use to produce fissile material. Incidentally, the construction of the reactors has largely been financed by South Korea and Japan, two countries far more concerned than we with NK's nuclear status.

Snidely

[backhoe]

Cross-link:

-The Atomic Genie- what we have about North Korea's Nuclear program--

[AFPhys]

The money that they recieve from the 1994 agreement forged by Carter is mostly in food aid (grain and such) and other humanitarian goods such as medical supplies. Clinton, for all his faults, was not stupid enough to simply write the North Koreans a check.

WHAT A CROCK... !!! These things are FUNGIBLE... if the commies are GIVEN money for FOOD etc., or in the form of food, they can use whatever other money they generate or steal for WEAPONS... DUNDERHEADS... every one of these unthinking weenies!

[Dan Day]

I havn't heard of the micro nukes, If you have any links on them, please share.

Here you go

Yes, that thing on the end is actually a nuclear bomb, a model W54 warhead. Yield could be dialed between 0.02 and 1.0 kilotons. That's 1/750th to 1/15th the size of the Hiroshima bomb.

Here's the same warhead packed as a nuclear "land mine", for demolition:

The nuke is the small item on the *left* -- the larger item in the middle is its packing/carrying case.

[Dan Day]

WHAT A CROCK... !!! These things are FUNGIBLE...

Ten points for using the word "fungible". :-)

[Snidely Whiplash]

You don't know that they already had nuclear weapons well established before billy c and jimmy c GAVE the N Korean's the information and materials necessary to build nuclear reactors.

If you'd bother to do some reading instead of just knee-jerking on this thing, you'd find out that the two light-water reactors we (and about a dozen other countries) were gonna build for NK were to replace ones that are produce plutonium far more quickly. To put it more bluntly, they already had nuclear reactors, more dangerous ones. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they even had the fissile material at the time the agreement was signed in 1994.

Seems the idea was on its face a good one. Problem is that the North Korean government decided to backslide and cheat, as Stalinists will. As it stands, they're not likely to get their new reactors completed unless someone (i.e. China) can rein them in.

Snidely

[AFPhys]

LOL... I think that's the most I've ever been awarded!

[John Lenin]

We sure hope you are right about being 100% positive that Iraq does not already posses nukes and is not going to use them on our boys!!!

The 'boys' will not hit the ground until it's over. Want to bet ?

[John Lenin]

We sure hope you are right about being 100% positive that Iraq does not already posses nukes and is not going to use them on our boys!!!

Whats he going to do , blow up his own people with them ? It's pretty hard to nuke an F16 in flight.

[Fighting Irish]

At risk of sounding like a whining ninny......I was saying this over a year ago here at F.R. and was, for the most part taken to task for it. Now that it's in the "Newspaper" suddenly it's for real.

There's more to this story boys and girls. You better believe these goons can hit Washington state, Oregon and even California. During the Clinton years ( I hate to even mention that creeps name)NK splashed a test rocket 300 miles west of the Washington state coast. That little tid bit never made in the press.

After lighting up Bagdad......we need to go scare the beejeebies out of North Korea.

[Peach]

Clinton's legacy is toast. There goes Hillary's chance for a presidential bid. Even the Dems will at last understand that Bill would also be running the White House again, (remember their co-presidency) and that we can't afford national security breaches.

[DB]

If they did have a nuclear weapons "test in the last few months" it failed.

[Diogenesis]

First, you do not know it failed, and
second, if science was used, knowledge can be derived even when things go against the hypothesis.

[DB]

It failed to go "boom".

That's not to say nothing was learned.