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10/18/ 02

Posted on 10/18/2002 4:42:56 PM PDT by Libloather

The *Crintons supposedly come from Arkansas. They get a head start.

Wisconsin is still dusting off felonies that haven't been seen in decades.

Cally gets even closer to the Chicoms - just because of the earthquakes.

New Joisey? Fegedaboudid...

The *Crintons supposedly come from New York. Uh, oh.

TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Free Republic; Government
KEYWORDS: corrupt; state
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To: rabidralph
You've got a good chance. After all, along with Spendenning and KKT we've got Mikulski and Sarbanes- present day. And, don't forget Spiro Agnew, Marvin Mandel and Dale Anderson, et al in the recent past.

Do we have a winner here?

41 posted on 10/18/2002 5:22:46 PM PDT by doberville
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To: jwalsh07; All
The commie, Lincoln "the Commie" Chafee, the commie, lives in Virginia, not Rogues Island, so he doesn't count. But we don't need him to prove Smuggler's Cove as the most corrupt state.

Do your states have "Mayors in Prison Day" because the mayor of every city in the state is either in prison, on his way to prison or was just released from prison?

Do you have no separation of powers? Meaning a guy who's district is basically a cemetary in Pawtucket who hasn't even had the decency to plant some mums in his district, over rules the state senate and the governor?

Can this unelected tyrant hire a bartender from a strip club for bi-weekly blowjobs in a secret room in the Statehouse then hand her a million dollar payoff and still not suffer any backlash?

Does your state fight to save the pension of your corrupt felon ex-governor who runs his insurance business from his prison cell?

Are you denied by constitution the right of citizen initiative petition? And knowing the citizens of your state, do you actually believe that that is a good thing?

Does the mayor of your largest city, have a radio talk show while he is waiting to serve federal time? And will he continue his talk show while in prison in what is it, Ohio?

If you can't make these few simple claims then just walk away. Because I haven't even gotten started.

Plunderdome? How come the only person vilified despite the many convicted is the only guy who did the right thing?

Face it. We Mooncussers have you beat. You're not even in the game.
42 posted on 10/18/2002 5:24:27 PM PDT by the
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To: Eala
It can hardly get any worse than the State of Washington.
43 posted on 10/18/2002 5:24:39 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Libloather
New York: We have a double wammy, Hitlery and Schuuumer, you know, the only two who voted against voter registration ID's?
44 posted on 10/18/2002 5:25:19 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Libloather
45 posted on 10/18/2002 5:26:35 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Libloather
Let's see, I have Henry "Nostrilitis" Waxman as my rep, Dianne WhineSwine and Barbara "Check Bouncer" Boxster as my Senators, and Gray "Dim-Bulb" Davis as my governor. My city council has recently banned the sale and possession of a .50 single shot rifle, and they are going to pass a ban on the sale of ammo.

Yep, I lose. (win)

46 posted on 10/18/2002 5:27:29 PM PDT by Henchster
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To: Libloather
Uh oh, another North vs. South thread. Hey you Southerners, our Dems can outcorrupt your Dems any day of the week. :^)
47 posted on 10/18/2002 5:28:32 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Missouri
Illinois. Just because of Chicago ( Jackson, Daily, etc. and isn't the Rodham-Clinton gang from there ? )

Did you purposely forget our honerable governor? Ryan and his administration puts Illinois over the top.
48 posted on 10/18/2002 5:29:55 PM PDT by jenny65
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To: jenny65
honerable = honorable
49 posted on 10/18/2002 5:30:46 PM PDT by jenny65
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To: Henchster
Come on, South of the Angle tree we have Joe Mollicone, who absconded with the life savings of three quareters of the state, but since he cut in the right people, he's out of prison already and gets to keep twelve million that he didn't turn in.
50 posted on 10/18/2002 5:30:47 PM PDT by the
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To: the
You said it much better than I ever could. From a hill in Ct peering over Foster, I agree that you have the most corrupt state taking into account that familiarity breeds contempt.:-}
51 posted on 10/18/2002 5:31:01 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Hah! The more familiar I get the more contemptious I become.

52 posted on 10/18/2002 5:33:10 PM PDT by the
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To: Libloather
Louisiana. A previous governor is going to be going into prison Monday. Also our last three commissioners of insurance have gone to prison.

I just did a quick search and found this:

Political corruption is woven deeply into the fabric of Louisiana's history, affecting most branches of state government.
Times-Picayune 5/14/00

Jean Baptiste le Moyne, Sieur de Bienville French colonial governor of Louisiana four times between 1701 and 1743, was fired several times on charges of corruption and malfeasance in office. He went in and out of office depending on the state of politics in Paris.

Antoine de Lamothe, Sieur de Cadillac French colonial governor 1713-16, was sent to the Basille on Sept. 27, 1717, in a financial scandal. A successor, Louis Bilouart, Chevaliere de Kelerec (governor 1753-63), met the same fate.

Gov. Charles Phillippe Aubry (1765-66) spent the colony into bankruptcy, prompting French authorities to palm it off on Spain.

William Pitt Kellogg , a Reconstruction era governo (1873-76) wa so unpopular that President Grant had to send in troops to keep him in office - despite the fact that he lowered taxes.

Gov. Samuel D. McEnery (1881-1888) escaped serious scandal of his own, but his state treasurer, Edward A. Burke, emptied out the vaults and took off for Honduras.

During the 1880s, the Louisiana Lottery was rife with corruption, with operators accused of bribing public officials, newspaper reporters and editors. The lottery was finally put out of business in 1892 by Gov. Murphy Foster, grandfather of the present governor. The grandson is in his second term.

In 1929, Gov. Huey P. Long was impeached by the House on 19 counts, including bribery and other offenses. He was never convicted by the Senate, however, because enough senators signed a "round robin" agreeing not to convict no matter what the evidence.

In 1940, Gov. Richard Leche and Louisiana State University President James Monroe Smith went to prison after a serices of events that became known collectively as the "Louisiana Scandals." Leche resigned as governor shortly before he was convicted in federal court on mail fraud charges stemming from allegations that he took kickbacks on a state road construction project. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison and served 3 1/2 years. Leche is the only Louisiana governor since statehood to have been imprisoned. Public outrage over the scandal resulted in the election of a reform governor, Sam Jones, in 1940.

In 1969, Life Magazine published an article linking the administration of Gov. John McKeithen to alleged mobster boss Carlos Marcello. There was a lengthy investigation, but McKeithen was never officially accused of any wrongdoing.

Then - Attorney General Jack P.F. Gremillion was indicated in 1969 on charges of lying to a grand jury about his involvement in a savings & loan company. He was convicted in 1971 and served 15 months in prison.

In 1973, early in Gov. Edwin Edwards' first administration, the media reported that he was involved with some political cronies in a questionable New Orleans real estate deal called TEL Enterprises. That touched off a grand jury investigation, but no indictments resulted.

In 1976, Edwards admitted that a South Korean businessman gave Edwards' wife $10,000. He later admitted that an aide to the South Korean businessman had contributed $10,000 to Edwards' 1971 election campaign.

Former state Agriculture Commissioner Gil Dozier was convicted in 1980 on federal racketeering and extortion charges for shaking down businesses that dealt with or were regulated in some way by his department. In 1982, a federal judge revoked Dozier's appeal bond and increased his sentence to 18 years because of claims that Dozier planned a break-in at another man's office and tried to get a juror to falsely claim misconduct during Dozier's trial. Dozier was not formall y charged with jury tampering. But U.S. District Judge Frank Polozola, revoking the probation he had previously given Dozier on one of the counts against him, said prosecutors had enough evidence to convict him on the tampering charge.

In 1981 Charles "Budgie" Roemer, Edwards' former commissioner of administration (and father of future Gov. Buddy Roemer) was convicted along with alleged mob chief Carlos Marcello and others of bribery to obtain state insurance contracts in a federal sting operation known as Brilab. Edwards was not implicated. The convictions were overturned in 1989.

In 1982, state Senate President Michael O'Keefe was indicted for swindling his business partners. He was convicted in 1983 on charges of bilking a failed insurance company. He was sentenced to 19 years and is now in a federal prison.

In 1982, a federal grand jury investigated a deferred compensation program for state employeers that was instituted under Edwards, but Edwards was never indicted.

In 1985, Edwards was indicted by a federal grand jury on racketeering and fraud charges. Prosecutors said that while out of office between his second and third terms (1980-4), he conspired to obtain and sell state hospital and nursing home approvals, which entitle developers to substantial federal reimbursement of their costs, and that he aided the conspiracy when returned to office in 1984. Edwards' first trial in 1985 ended in a hung jury, he was retried and acquitted in 1986.

In 1990, Insurance Commissioner Doug Green was indicted on fraud and money laundering charges in connection with the collapse of Champion Insurance Co. He was convicted in 1991 and is serving a 25-year prison sentence.

In 1992, after Edwards took office for the fourth time, he made legislative approval of the New Orleans casino his top priority. The casino bill was brought up unexpectedly in the House after a bitter fight over a prevailing wage bill and most members thought they were about to adjourn for the day. After the voting machine was opened, dozens of members screamed that their votes had been incorrectly recorded, and the machine was left open fr nearly 20 minutes, something that has never happened before nor since. The bill narrowly passed.

In 1993, Insurance Commissioner Sherman Bernard was indicted for taking payoffs while in office. He was convicted and served a brief prison term.

In 1999, longtime Elections Commissioner Jerry Fowler was indicted by a state grand jury and accused of taking millions of dollars in kickbacks from inflated voting machine contracts. He was defeated for re-election and is awaiting trial.

Insurance Commissioner Jim Brown was indicted in 1999 along with Edwards and others on federal charges of mishandling the liquidation of a failed insurance company. He is awaiting trial. Brown won re-election despite the indictment. You will notice that the last three Insurance Commissioners: Brown, Bernard and Green, have all been indicted for corruption.

53 posted on 10/18/2002 5:35:50 PM PDT by alnick
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To: rabidralph
Hands down!

Hillary Clinton
Charles Schumer.
Need I say more?

54 posted on 10/18/2002 5:36:13 PM PDT by smokegenerator
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To: doberville
Do we have a winner here?

Gotta call you on premature celebration. Hardly any foul, no penalty...

55 posted on 10/18/2002 5:36:25 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
I've always said "you can judge how much corruption there is in state government by the condition of their highways." From that, I give New York an edge over Louisiana and New Mexico. But I must confess I've never driven through Oregon or Washington.

I can tell you it's not Texas because we still think capital punishment is a viable option in these parts. The crooks know they can't get away with too much around here.

56 posted on 10/18/2002 5:37:12 PM PDT by Tall_Texan
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To: Libloather
I would have to say New York.Before it was ark.but the clintons moved to N.Y. so now it is n.y.
57 posted on 10/18/2002 5:37:32 PM PDT by solo gringo
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To: Libloather
Tennessee has to be a candidate. A Governor forced out of office - and jailed - a few years ago.

Memphis has a jailbird city council member, plus it just ousted another. We have a druggie on the school board, as well. And the State has just ordered the County to conduct an audit due to massive misuse of credit cards in the immediate past (Republican!) administration.
58 posted on 10/18/2002 5:38:30 PM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: Libloather
Wow. So far Florida remains spotless...

Only because the Clintoon hasn't been there since leaving office.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

59 posted on 10/18/2002 5:40:01 PM PDT by LonePalm
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To: Libloather
I don't know about corrupt, but Vermont is represented by congressman Bernie Sanders and senators Jeffords and Leahy. Beat that!
60 posted on 10/18/2002 5:40:04 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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