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Powerful Attack Cripples Internet
Fox News ^ | 10.23.02

Posted on 10/22/2002 10:48:47 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:04 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON  — An unusually powerful electronic attack briefly crippled nine of the 13 computer servers that manage global Internet traffic this week, officials disclosed Tuesday. But most Internet users didn't notice because the attack only lasted one hour.

The FBI and White House were investigating. One official described the attack Monday as the most sophisticated and large-scale assault against these crucial computers in the history of the Internet. The origin of the attack was not known.


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1 posted on 10/22/2002 10:48:47 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Interesting...it would be wild if someone could (which apparently they can) bring down the internet. I guess that might get peoples attention. Would mine!
3 posted on 10/22/2002 10:52:45 PM PDT by Lucas1
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To: maui_hawaii
Didn't notice? The origin of the attack was not known?

I noticed and as far as being unknown...well, the US wouldn't want to point the finger with the Chinese President in route to the Crawford Ranch now would they?

I propose that we drop the big DOS bomb on China...anyone up for some fun?

4 posted on 10/22/2002 10:53:32 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State; Nogbad; keri
Interesting in light of everything else going on in recent weeks.

Maybe it's related, maybe it's not.

5 posted on 10/22/2002 10:54:53 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Lucas1
They cant bring down the entire internet...dont forget who invented it..and no, Im not talking about AL Gore. The internet was designed by the DOD and just because they dont have all the newly evolving holes covered doesnt mean they dont have the situation under control.
6 posted on 10/22/2002 10:55:54 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
Where is Al Gore when you need him?
7 posted on 10/22/2002 10:55:57 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked
Where is Al Gore when you need him?

OH hes under the bed with his arse in the air as usual

8 posted on 10/22/2002 10:58:06 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: TEXASPROUD
fyi
9 posted on 10/22/2002 11:01:55 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Enemy Of The State
I thought it my download of the 200+MB download of the Army game (which is cool) on a really crappy dial-up connection that did it.
10 posted on 10/22/2002 11:02:16 PM PDT by chnsmok
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To: Enemy Of The State

Who's the bozo that came up with the headline about "crippling the Internet" when the story says most users didn't even notice? Is that the Associated Press? Fox News?

Reuters headlined their story, "Bid to Cripple Internet Fails, Experts Say."


11 posted on 10/22/2002 11:05:59 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Nick Danger
Nicely put! Hadn't read reuters...just Fox.

I noticed because I have the majority of Subnet IPs from China blocked out of my firewall and it was going off the hook the other day.

12 posted on 10/22/2002 11:09:44 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Enemy Of The State
I noticed the slow down. I am wondering though...you mentioned that they can't bring down the entire net. Why is that?
13 posted on 10/22/2002 11:10:30 PM PDT by Lucas1
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To: Lucas1
im on the way to bed right now and thats a kinda short but kinda long answer so Ill get back to you unless someone else picks up the tab.
14 posted on 10/22/2002 11:13:14 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Lucas1
The internet is like a big spiders web. If one leg goes down the traffic can be routed a different way and still reach its destination. Plus its fairly redundant with numerous backups and is fairly redundant with numerous backups.
15 posted on 10/22/2002 11:16:34 PM PDT by Delta 21
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To: Delta 21
Plus its fairly redundant with numerous backups and is fairly redundant with numerous backups.

The internet or this sentence?

(steely)

16 posted on 10/22/2002 11:32:15 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: Nick Danger
"Bid to Cripple Internet Fails, Bert Says."
17 posted on 10/23/2002 12:04:16 AM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: Enemy Of The State
I think they are terribly wrong about this attack not harming anything. I'm in Taiwan, and it was clear that something fouled up our internet access. Today is the first day in about a week that I've been able to get reasonable access to most western web sites. Something rotten going on out there.
18 posted on 10/23/2002 12:09:02 AM PDT by zook
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To: Enemy Of The State
Was this the time when FR took 15 minutes to load a page a day or two ago?
19 posted on 10/23/2002 12:18:33 AM PDT by The Person
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To: Enemy Of The State
because they dont have all the newly evolving holes covered doesnt mean they dont have the situation under control.

They CAN'T cover those holes; it was a denial of service attack brought about through packeting. There is no way to defend against such an attack. All they can do is get the servers back up and running again as fast as possible, and track down the rat b*$t**d who took them down.

20 posted on 10/23/2002 12:24:49 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: zook
You wouldn't possibly know where Muttly could get his hands on some Pingtungs, would you ?

Nah...what are the odds.
21 posted on 10/23/2002 12:32:54 AM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: PoorMuttly
Actually, I might be able to do that, if I knew what they were. I am in Pingtung, as a matter of fact!
22 posted on 10/23/2002 12:58:05 AM PDT by zook
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To: zook
...uh...don't worry about what they are...just send me all you got.

They're utterly harmless...and of no value...trust me..no value.
23 posted on 10/23/2002 1:06:12 AM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: PoorMuttly
Just don't forget to poke holes in the box...and whatever you do...don't shake it !
24 posted on 10/23/2002 1:09:17 AM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Where is Al Gore when you need him?


25 posted on 10/23/2002 1:10:57 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; *tech_index
FYI Ping.

Thread indexed - FR Topic Register (Scroll down to tech index and click)

26 posted on 10/23/2002 1:15:50 AM PDT by American Preservative
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To: Jeff Chandler
I was getting pings from all over the East coast and Canada. I had to turn off the warnings because it was interrupting every 30 seconds. Wierd?????? They were net bios port scans, hundreds of them and for several days. Normally I only get a few per day.
27 posted on 10/23/2002 1:18:16 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Get a hard firewall/router. It stopped all attacks on me , that I know of.
28 posted on 10/23/2002 1:22:22 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
Zone pro is blocking them. I just had to turn the alerts off. Just got one now. Have gotten 5 in 5 minutes.
29 posted on 10/23/2002 1:29:07 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: John Lenin
Whois information for IP address 64.141.24.41

No results found

This is what I get on the back trace.

30 posted on 10/23/2002 1:35:55 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Did some more seaching. I located the source as Sunwave.net in British Coumbia. Getting numerous pings from that area. I have no idea what the significance is.
31 posted on 10/23/2002 1:44:05 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
NeoTrace Trace Version 3.25 Results
Target: entertainment.yahoo.com
Date: 10/23/2002 (Wednesday), 1:58:30 AM
Nodes: 13
Node Data
Node Net Reg IP Address Location Node Name
11 1 1 64.159.2.41 San Jose gige10-
0.ipcolo3.sanjose1.level3.net
32 posted on 10/23/2002 2:00:25 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: wirestripper
Since the intifadda I get most of my craptraffic from UK and Spain. Seems the Moslems are more advanced there. I average a hack attack about once every 3 minutes at home at peak times down to one every 15 minutes on quiet news weeks. Seems to track the Political heat pretty well.It is not fun to have an IP number in the Israel block.
33 posted on 10/23/2002 2:01:27 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: wirestripper
Sorry wrong IP this is it. Seattle !

NeoTrace Trace Version 3.25 Results
Target: 64.141.24.41
Date: 10/23/2002 (Wednesday), 2:02:55 AM
Nodes: 19

Node Data
Node Net Reg IP Address Location Node Name
13 1 1 129.250.10.22 Seattle ge-
1.bigpipe.sttlwa01.bb.verio.net
34 posted on 10/23/2002 2:04:43 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Enemy Of The State
An unusually powerful electronic attack briefly crippled nine of the 13 computer servers...

Fox Shmox. . . it was NOT nine out of 13 !!!

It was actually 9 out of thirteen . . . but I'll try harder next time !!! ;-))


35 posted on 10/23/2002 2:28:50 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: Enemy Of The State
bump
36 posted on 10/23/2002 2:35:09 AM PDT by wewillnotfail
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To: American in Israel; John Lenin
"Houston, it looks like we have a problem!"

The feds have set up a I-net group to counter the threat. I wish them luck. With all the DNS worms etc. and the hacking I am surprised we still have a net.

37 posted on 10/23/2002 2:35:50 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Hell! Just got popped again! This time they tried to route traffic thru me to who knows what! Somethings rotten somewhere.
38 posted on 10/23/2002 2:45:24 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Mitnick is working on it.
39 posted on 10/23/2002 2:48:58 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
This attack is still in progress IMHO! The last four I got were from Great Britain, China, and Chech. they are searching for a opening to route traffic.

The web sites I get on or use frequently are notifiying me of changed addresses. (the only thing they can do to stay up I guess)

40 posted on 10/23/2002 2:56:37 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Buy a Linksys router with built in firewall. You can get one for under $80 on ebay.
41 posted on 10/23/2002 3:00:24 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin
I will do that, but my network(in home) is currently down. I have some upgrading to do on my main computer. Using a laptop on a dialup right now. I am thinking about wireless but I need more info. The old router I had did not have a firewall so I rely on zone. Not even using the router now. The address is new(month old). This is not usual to get this many hits.

I wish I was more knowledgable about network protocol. I would write a little something to send to some of these probers. Make their keyboards smoke or something!

42 posted on 10/23/2002 3:08:56 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: John Lenin
While I am on a rant, I might as well finish it!

My friggin telephone has been ringing off the hook as well. There is never anyone on the other end. I figure they are looking for you to answer the phone, then take your PH# and put it in a data base that they sell as good contact numbers or something. Then the telemarketers and pollsters start calling.

I may get totally pissed and go back to letter writing and smoke signals.

43 posted on 10/23/2002 3:15:41 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
"My friggin telephone has been ringing off the hook as well. There is never anyone on the other end"

Those are automated telemarketing calls. It dials 8 or 10 numbers and takes the first one that answers and leaves the others to answer a dead call.
44 posted on 10/23/2002 3:33:29 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: dalereed
leaves the others to answer a dead call.

Will a call zapper help? I keep seeing them advertised.

45 posted on 10/23/2002 3:36:41 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: dalereed
It dials 8 or 10 numbers and takes the first one that answers and leaves the others to answer a dead call.

I wish Congress would outlaw these under pain of death.

46 posted on 10/23/2002 3:39:34 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: wirestripper
I would write a little something to send to some of these probers. Make their keyboards smoke or something!

If you can give them an open port and a designated snip of html, you can actually get them to suck up an executable and run it automatically. With an exe, you can turn most current pc's into a dead paperweight. Trash :).

Problem is to give the exe only to the bad guys.

47 posted on 10/23/2002 3:40:09 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Enemy Of The State
We need a FReeper emergency system in case the internet goes down in a cyber attack, so we can still get news from sources other than liberal news media.

I've got the names and addresses and phone numbers of a few friends here at FR, but that's not much of a network.

48 posted on 10/23/2002 3:40:18 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: phasma proeliator
PING
49 posted on 10/23/2002 3:43:17 AM PDT by jdogbearhunter
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To: Cachelot
Is this like surfing the web? My virus scan software has never, ever alerted on a web page.

Still, some intermediate PC that has been hacked could be downed through the EXE. Could there be a kinder gentler version that doesn't take down the PC unless it is the originator, not a hackee? If it's a hackee, it should put a warning panel up on the console.
50 posted on 10/23/2002 3:55:04 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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