Are Mohammed/Malvo Snipers Gay For Each Other?

Multiple | MB26

[MindBender26]

Ok; this is a question that has to be asked. Please do not think me a homophobe, but certain possibilities seem to be emerging.

1. These were two males, one a 42 year-old and the other a 17 year-old. Not related, they still traveled a lot together, visited relatives in their homes. etc.

2. Pictures of the two show them with arms around each other.

3. Mohammed has a history of failed relationships with women.

4. Mohammed was discharged from the Army after aprox. ten years of service. His rank at discharge was Sergeant E-5. This rank is a rather poor achievement after 10+ years of service, even for a truck driver. Very few people leave the army after 10 years. After 2,3,or 4, certainly; and of course, after 20. What caused him to leave service at such an unusual point in his career?

Let's not let this post be the beginning of name calling, but this does seem a bit strange.

Any POLITE comments?

[VaBthang4]

Now all we need is "registered Democrat".

[lady lawyer]

You are much too deferential to the homosexuals, MindBender. There is no such thing as a "homophobe." That is a made up word designed to denigrate anyone who has a normal "yuck" reaction to homosexual activity, or who things the homosexual agenda is bad for our kids and this country. And it is a stupid made up word, at that. If literally translated it would mean "fear of sameness."

[Common Tator]

Doubt it a lot. It is not uncomon for this type serial killer to have a helper. When a serial killing spree is done by more than one person there is always a strong person who pulls the trigger and a weaker one that helps him get to and from the crime scene and acts as look out. The follower is always a weaker personality and usually a lot younger.

It is quite common. At least 15,214 and 1/3 experts have been predicting this exact scenerio on CNN an Fox for weeks. Perhaps yuu were in the back yard bending your mind and missed the 15,214 and 1/3 experts predicting this very situation.

Strong leader and weak follower is just SOP in these cases. Outgoing personalities that become serial killers almost always have helpers. Introverted serial killers do not.

This killer had two wives, a girl friend and 4 kids. He is described as an extrovert. Lots of people in New Jersey used to see him in resturants and bars. They liked him and were quite surprised he was a killer.

He got in trouble with the law on two occasions for abducting his kids. That means he liked being a parent. He obviously liked the parent child relationship. This guy found a young man in his step son who looked up to him as his hero and leader. It was flattery an insecure killer could not resist and a mind he could not resist bending.

This was the Lone Ranger and Tonto taking on the EVIL federal government. The killer was kimosabe. The faithful sidekick was Tonto.

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A senior law enforcement official (anonymous) revealed that the dynamic duo was trying to raise $10 million for NAMBLA and that both were kicked out of the Boy Scouts at age 15. Honest.........

[VaBthang4]

"Chief Moose has done more to kill Affirmative Action then all of the radio talk show hosts in the US in the last 20 years. The FBI has done more to ruin the notion of a good/big and competent Federal Government then Bill Clinton in 8 years."

????

Disruptor Alert?

Please dont respond.

[martin_fierro]

I heard a radio reporter (I think from the Michael Graham show in DC) describe the relationship as Mohammad was Malvo's "play father".

Eeeeeeeewwwwwwwww.

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"The killer was kimosabe. The faithful sidekick was Tonto."

Until some smart-leck prospector told the Masked Man what "kimosabe" meant in Apache.......

[VaBthang4]

"There is no such thing as a "homophobe." That is a made up word designed to denigrate anyone who has a normal "yuck" reaction to homosexual activity, or who things the homosexual agenda is bad for our kids and this country. And it is a stupid made up word, at that. If literally translated it would mean "fear of sameness."

Will you marry me?

I like to think of cakeboys and Rosie types as "Heterophobes".

[afraidfortherepublic]

More background on Malvo

[demsux]

and they were caught at a highway rest stop

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

Are Mohammed/Malvo Snipers Gay For Each Other? Don't care. I do care that after trial and execution, stakes are driven through each of their hearts.

I myself like the Afghan idea of pushing a stone wall over on them.

[Billthedrill]

I don't care if they're banging livestock - if they're guilty of shooting innocent people they fry.

[afraidfortherepublic]

Mo is a member of two communities which have a high percertage of bisexual activities.

And those would be???

[lady lawyer]

what a zoophobic remark

[dsutah]

I can understand where you could get such a conclusion! But maybe they're not gay. I'll admit however, I'm somewhat naive as to who's gay and who's not. I can see the more obvious signs, but not the more sublime. I've been wrong when I thought some people were gay. From what I've heard so far though, is that the younger man is a stepson or relative by marriage. But, you never know!

[Dallas]

Well, if they are....Then we certainly can't prosecute them under these circumstances.

Personally, I want to fully understand their rage, and transform myself so I won't propagate this kind of behavior.

Somehow, I know I'm responsible....

[VaBthang4]

The mainstream media informed us this week that Lee Malvo, the reportedly "17-year-old" youth charged as a material witness in the sniper investigation along with John Mohammed, is a "Jamaican national." As of this writing (Oct. 24), the Immigration and Naturalization Service refused to comment publicly on the exact nature of Malvo's immigration status.


Here are the facts the INS doesn't want you to know: Lee Malvo is an illegal alien from Jamaica who jumped ship in Miami in June 2001. He was apprehended by the Border Patrol in Bellingham, Wash., in December 2001, but was then let go by the INS district in Seattle in clear violation of federal law and contrary to what the arresting Border Patrol officers intended, according to my law enforcement sources.









According to INS records I obtained, Malvo was arrested by Border Patrol agents in Bellingham, Wash., on December 19, 2001. Local police called the Border Patrol during an incident involving "some sort of custody dispute" between Malvo's mother, Uma Sceon James, and John Mohammed (the ex-Army soldier with black radical Muslim ties now at the center of the sniper investigation). James admitted that six months earlier, "she and her son were passengers on a cargo ship that was filled with 'illegal asians (sic).' They were all off loaded in the Miami, FL area where she immediately located work at the Red Lobster in Ft. Myers, FL."


From there, Malvo and James traveled to Tacoma, Wash., and ended up in Bellingham. At the time of their arrest, INS records indicate, neither Malvo nor his mother had any documents proving their identities or allowing them "to be or remain in the United States legally." The Border Patrol agents concluded that because she had "no roots or close family ties in the United States, James was likely to abscond." The arresting officer noted that the mother-and-son illegal aliens, Malvo and James, would be "detained at the Seattle Detention facility in Seattle, Washington pending deportation charges."


That's not what happened. About a month after their arrest, Malvo and his mother were set free by the Seattle district INS-contrary to what the arresting Border Patrol officers had determined should be done. And in clear violation of federal law regarding the removal of illegal alien stowaways. According to the Detention and Deportation Officers' Field Manual:



"Occasionally, you may encounter an alien who claims to be a stowaway, but cannot or will not provide information concerning the name of the vessel of arrival. Prior to April 1, 1997, such aliens could be handled in the same way as any other EWI [entered without inspection] case and placed into removal proceedings. The [Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act], however, directs that stowaways, regardless of when encountered, are to be removed without a hearing.citing section 235(a)(2) of the Act as the authority for the action."

The law is explicit: Illegal alien stowaways are to be detained and deported without hearings. James admitted that she and her son were illegal alien stowaways. Yet, in January 2002, James was released on a $1,500 bond; Malvo was set loose without any bond on his own recognizance. Here is my theory: Somebody at the Seattle INS office leaned on the arresting Border Patrol officers to disregard Malvo and his mother's "stowaway" status-allowing them to run free and allowing the INS to avoid the costs associated with detention and deportation. So, who let Lee Malvo loose? The Seattle INS office referred my call to the Washington, D.C. headquarters. The national headquarters referred calls to the Montgomery County sniper task force. Standard INS operating procedure: Pass the buck and run for cover.


"This makes me sick to my stomach," says Daryl Schermerhorn, vice president of the Northwest regional chapter of the National Border Patrol Council, which represents Border Patrol agents in Washington State. "The INS is not concerned with enforcing immigration law," he told me this week. "It's more concerned with freeing up jails and saving a few bucks than it is with protecting Americans and removing people who don't belong here."


As I document in my book, Invasion, these countless "catch and release" cases have demoralized rank-and-file INS agents and cost scores of American lives-from cops gunned down by fugitive deportees to victims of illegal border-crossing murderers, and now, quite possibly, to the innocents slaughtered in the Washington, D.C., area sniping spree. Eugene Davis, a retired deputy chief Border Patrol agent in Blaine, Wash., told me: "This is another classic example of how our catch and release policy for illegal aliens remains a danger to us all. What's it going to take for the American people to demand that we fix the system?"

[wyattalex]

Which communities?

[dsutah]

Or those two young brothers who were recently convicted for killing their dad.

[anniegetyourgun]

Amen.