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Are the Snipers Part of the "Five Percent Nation"? ("The Black Man is God" Among Teachings)
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Posted on 10/26/2002 2:18:40 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: Inyokern
I wonder if the five stars on the letters they left has any relation to the Five Percenters. Well, the Five Percent Nation logo is a star, pointing in the same direction as the Nation of Islam Star (about 11 o'clock), a moon and a big "7" I assume because the Five Percent Nation was born in Mosque No. 7, as an offshoot of Nation of Islam according to the article. Perhaps this loon decided to just make "his own" offshoot of the Five Percent Nation.
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To: hispanarepublicana
good grief bump
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posted on
10/26/2002 3:06:16 PM PDT
by
Wrigley
To: hispanarepublicana
I think you've got it. The five stars on the letter are clearly drawn from this.
Incredible.
Okay, you get that trip to the Caribbean! (As we used to say in NY, that and 25 cents (now $1.50) will get you a trip on the subway!)
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posted on
10/26/2002 3:13:37 PM PDT
by
livius
To: hispanarepublicana; nicmarlo; Grampa Dave
Ping to nic and grampa for some great research by hispanarep.
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posted on
10/26/2002 3:16:11 PM PDT
by
livius
To: hispanarepublicana
I've been reading through some of the FBI information from one of the links above. Very interesting stuff.
These guys may not actually consider themselves five percenters, but it does seem clear that a least one of them (the one that wrote the notes) has been heavily influenced by this teaching from somewhere.
It may have just been incorporated into some of the Nation of Islam lore he picked up on the street, but this stuff is scary and it appears that those connected with it have a reputation for extreme violence.
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posted on
10/26/2002 3:17:01 PM PDT
by
Route66
To: hispanarepublicana
That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, HeadLOL!
To: hispanarepublicana
That the blackman is god and his proper name is ALLAH. Arm, Leg, Leg, Arm, HeadLOL!
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To: livius
Thanks for the ping. Some one had sent me one of the url's that hispanarep did a great job of documenting. I got a headache from just looking at the poor graphics and the star crap. So I severed the link.
Glad that hispanarep did such a great job on it.
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To: Route66
. . . this stuff is scary and it appears that those connected with it have a reputation for extreme violence.Reinforces being prepared to defend yourself, regardless of where you are. Be aware of your surroundings. Don't walk into something that could close around you, esp. in the big cities. NYC is a good example, in light of this article emphasizing the high number of "Five Percenters" there.
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posted on
10/26/2002 3:29:10 PM PDT
by
toddst
To: hispanarepublicana
As a now-and-then hip hop fan, I'm quite familiar with the Five Percenters. As I see it, guys like Busta Rhymes use the mysticism(or looniness) the same way many use various scriptures from around the world. It gives an air of the mystical to their music, just as the words of the Bible give an otherwise mundane speech about doing the right thing an added "oomph."
Understand, I'm not comparing the two, and there are SERIOUS believers in this Five Percent garbage, but there're also a lot who just use some cool or off-the-wall concepts they learned "back in the day."
All of the members of the Wu Tang Clan seem to be serious adherents to the "religion."
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posted on
10/26/2002 3:32:18 PM PDT
by
Skywalk
To: hispanarepublicana
Thanks for the ping. Will do some research on this.
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posted on
10/26/2002 3:34:35 PM PDT
by
TexKat
To: hispanarepublicana
Thanks for a very interesting post. I have often wondered about the origins of "rap' music (I personally cannot stand it)but this "Five Percent Religion" may have a bearing on where its' roots originated.
The next few weeks will be interesting to see if "Mohammeds" rampage was driven by muslim /al-qaida sympathies. I suspect that the truth(as told by our media) will be thoroughly whitewashed and sanitized to be completely P.C. and neutral as far as exposing Mr. Mohammeds link to islamo-terrorism, if it indeed exists.
To: hispanarepublicana
Bump.(and indexed)
Thank you, for one of the more interesting and thought provoking posts in a long time.
To: Skywalk
Yeah...it is still grounded in NYC. Still draws the same corny coterie as it did when I was young. "Vain and cant be told what to do" types.
The heart of East Coast hip hop. Versus the shallow hillbilly style of rap that pushed out of the West Coast.
Nothing to be mesmerized by [but the simple will be].
To: Skywalk
Not being a hip hop fan, Your post might help explain how the shooter was influenced by this belief system. If it's passed by street lore and music, he could have been influenced by either or both. I would expect this was most likely the case with Malvo.
I do still think John Muhammad - as evidenced by his name change and his security guard affiliation with The Nation of Islam - was most influenced by that organization.
It is possible that some ideology from the 5 percenters, which was considered a religion in competition with NOI in the 60's, may have sort of merged into what is now just known commonly as NOI. I'm no expert here, just speculating.
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posted on
10/26/2002 3:54:46 PM PDT
by
Route66
To: All
Has anyone tried to use the "alphabet" to analyze the cryptic messages Moose was asked to recite?
(Like "Caught Like a Duck in a Noose")
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posted on
10/26/2002 4:00:54 PM PDT
by
bcoffey
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