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Jihadis in the Hood: Race, Urban Islam and the War on Terror
Middle East Report 224 ^ | Fall 2002 | Hisham Aidi

Posted on 10/27/2002 10:06:08 AM PST by toenail

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1 posted on 10/27/2002 10:06:08 AM PST by toenail
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To: toenail; mhking
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2 posted on 10/27/2002 10:07:18 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: toenail
"One thing leads to another. . ."
3 posted on 10/27/2002 10:08:19 AM PST by BenLurkin
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4 posted on 10/27/2002 10:14:39 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: toenail
Blacks who think they will ultimately be accepted by Islam are fools. More slaves went to the Middle East than just about anyplace else. Where are they all now? Murdered. Muslims used to make piles of their skulls. Where I live, a Palestinian stabbed his daughter to death while his wife held her, because she was dating a black teenage boy.
5 posted on 10/27/2002 10:17:25 AM PST by Trickyguy
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To: FL_engineer
ping!
6 posted on 10/27/2002 10:24:04 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: toenail
And it's odd that the author works on a project funded by the Ford Foundation, which has long worked on population control and dumbing down education, which I see as the two root causes of the breakdown of black society in the U.S.
7 posted on 10/27/2002 10:27:09 AM PST by toenail
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To: toenail
Great find, interesting read. Something makes me think that mainstream journalists will find exploring the motivations and influences of John Muhammad distinctly uncomfortable.
8 posted on 10/27/2002 10:27:52 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: toenail
For those who haven't read John Taylor Gatto's The Underground History of Education in America yet, I can't recommend it highly enough. An excerpt from the chapter linked above:

For example, on the matter of violence inscribed in black genes, the inconvenient parallel is to South Africa where 31 million blacks live, the same count living in the United States. Compare numbers of blacks who died by violence in South Africa in civil war conditions during 1989, 1990, and 1991 with our own peacetime mortality statistics and you find that far from exceeding the violent death toll in the United States or even matching it, South Africa had proportionately less than one-quarter the violent death rate of American blacks. If more contemporary comparisons are sought, we need only compare the current black literacy rate in the United States (56 percent) with the rate in Jamaica (98.5 percent)—a figure considerably higher than the American white literacy rate (83 percent).

If not heredity, what then? Well, one change is indisputable, well-documented and easy to track. During WWII, American public schools massively converted to non-phonetic ways of teaching reading. On the matter of violence alone this would seem to have impact: according to the Justice Department, 80 percent of the incarcerated violent criminal population is illiterate or nearly so (and 67 percent of all criminals locked up). There seems to be a direct connection between the humiliation poor readers experience and the life of angry criminals.2

[Footnote] A particularly clear example of the dynamics hypothesized to cause the correlation can be found in Michael S. Brunner’s monograph, "Reduced Recidivism and Increased Employment Opportunity Through Research-Based Reading Instruction," United States Department of Justice (June 1992). Brunner’s recent book Retarding America, written as a Visiting Fellow for the U.S. Department of Justice, is recommended. A growing body of documentation ties illiteracy causally to violent crime. A study by Dennis Hogenson titled "Reading Failure and Juvenile Delinquency" (Reading Reform Foundation) attempted to correlate teenage aggression with age, family size, number of parents present in home, rural versus urban environment, socio-economic status, minority group membership, and religious preference. None of these factors produced a significant correlation. But one did. As the author reports, "Only reading failure was found to correlate with aggression in both populations of delinquent boys." An organization of ex-prisoners testified before the Sub-Committee on Education of the U.S. Congress that in its opinion illiteracy was an important causative factor in crime "for the illiterate have very few honest ways to make a living." In 1994 the U.S. Department of Education acknowledged that two-thirds of all incarcerated criminals have poor literacy.


9 posted on 10/27/2002 10:39:47 AM PST by toenail
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To: toenail
Good informative post. The term "representing" goes back farther than the five percenter's rap.
10 posted on 10/27/2002 10:46:00 AM PST by bvw
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To: Trickyguy
Where I live, a Palestinian stabbed his daughter to death while his wife held her, because she was dating a black teenage boy.

Where do you live?

11 posted on 10/27/2002 10:57:14 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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...Blyden became convinced that Islam was better suited for people of African descent than Christianity, because of what he saw as the lack of racial prejudice, the doctrine of brotherhood and the value placed on learning in Islam. His seminal tome, Christianity, Islam and the Negro Race (1888), laid the groundwork for a pan-Africanism with a strong Islamic cultural and religious undergirding.

HORSEFEATHERS!!!! muslims in Sudan and Mauritania still make slaves of black Africans, and many African slaves are exported to the Gulf states!!!! The slave trade in East Africa was in existence long before Europeans engaged in the African slave trade, and many African-Americans are descended from captured Africans who were sold to European slave traders by muslim chiefs.

If African-Americans want a REAL black religion, they should become Ethiopian Orthodox Christians!!!! Neither slavery nor terrorism is part of the Ethiopian Orthodox ethos or culture.

....John Walker Lindh, the [white native-born American] Marin County "black nationalist"-turned-Taliban....

Some people consider me--a native-born American with no Serbian ancestry that I know of--a "Serbian nationalist". But I never picked up a gun or a bomb to kill anyone, and have no plans whatsoever to do so. Go figure!

12 posted on 10/27/2002 11:29:54 AM PST by Honorary Serb
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13 posted on 10/27/2002 11:48:03 AM PST by mhking
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http://navisite.collegeclub.com/messageboards/board.jsp?communityid=312127

I've given up on this guy. I mostly just try and knock on him on occasion but it's just amazing how thick his pride as well as his skull is.
14 posted on 10/27/2002 11:56:01 AM PST by Bogey78O
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Look at his chosen venue - would you really consider CollegeClub.com a place to find "intelligent" conversation?
15 posted on 10/27/2002 12:16:12 PM PST by mhking
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Hey I post there all the time. In fact it was the first place in which i started posting to the internet on. I wish he was the exception in the college scene but theres a ton more like him and few blacks who'll condemn him until he condemns them for not being black enough.
16 posted on 10/27/2002 12:23:20 PM PST by Bogey78O
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To: toenail
Interesting thing is that for all of there Muslim/Five Percenter pretensions, many blacks HATE the Arab shopkeepers in their neighborhoods and vice versa. In all of my conversations with Arab immigrants, I have been struck by their total disgust with African Americans. Koreans tend to feel the same way. As far as the NOI crew is concerned, many guys just dabble in it as a way to rationalize their prejudices, without becoming orthodox Muslims.

As far as poor Latinos are concerned, I didn't notice many Muslims when I worked with a youth education program in Chicago that was 80% Mexican-American. They probably have more success with Puerto Ricans and Dominicans, many of whom are indistinguishible from blacks.

17 posted on 10/27/2002 12:29:33 PM PST by Clemenza
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Was this the incident reported in Kessler's recent book on the FBI? Was horrifying to read of the mother holding down her daughter while the father stabbed her repeatedly.

And these were the 'secular' 'moderate' types.
18 posted on 10/27/2002 12:33:25 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Bogey78O
Hey I post there all the time. In fact it was the first place in which i started posting to the internet on. I wish he was the exception in the college scene but theres a ton more like him and few blacks who'll condemn him until he condemns them for not being black enough.

No offense intended. In my experience (and I'll admit it's light at best) there, many of the folks are not the type who would engage in heavy-duty debate & discourse.

19 posted on 10/27/2002 12:34:42 PM PST by mhking
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To: toenail
nice toe
20 posted on 10/27/2002 12:37:29 PM PST by spycatcher
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