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Civilians patrol border (Arizona)
The Tucson Citizen ^ | Oct. 28, 2002 | SUSAN CARROLL

Posted on 10/28/2002 5:39:36 AM PST by madfly

Edited on 05/07/2004 5:37:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A satellite cell phone in one hand and a global-positioning satellite unit in the other, Glenn Spencer of the American Border Patrol poses at the group's headquarters in Sierra Vista. In the background is an antenna that connects headquarters to the Internet.


(Excerpt) Read more at tucsoncitizen.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: azborderpatrol; deportation; glennspencer; illegalimmigrants; ins; isabelgarcia
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To: madfly
"Law enforcement agencies do not appreciate the ultimatum."

Well boo (bleep)ing hoo! We hire these border patrol types to do a job, and all we hear from them is that illegal infiltrators get to chase them around in our own country with gunfire.

If they can't or won't do the job, they can just flip hamburgers for a living and we'll get the job done some other way.

They need to remember just who they're working for! We don't "appreciate" their not appreciating our ultimatum, either. (/rant)

21 posted on 10/28/2002 6:17:13 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: madfly
Where is it written that Americans are to give up their rights to protect their lives and property just because the local, state and fed gov't created agencies to "protect the public" then fail to do so?
22 posted on 10/28/2002 6:18:37 AM PST by aeronca
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To: madfly
Maybe these citizen border patrol people should receive deputy status?! They might FINALLY give a little backbone to the cowardly INS!
23 posted on 10/28/2002 6:33:16 AM PST by Graewoulf
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To: Sabertooth; madfly
The American Border Patrol and Ranch Rescue are upsetting the status quo and are going to throw a monkey-wrench into the underground economy.

How long is the bribe money going to continue to roll in from the smugglers, trafficking in drugs and illegal aliens, if their shipments can't be guaranteed unmolested entrance?

Don't these do-gooders know they're ruining a good thing?

>sarcasm<

24 posted on 10/28/2002 6:36:15 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: madfly
Our American ancestors did just fine without the protection of da law, in fact they were da law west of the pecos. Looks like they still are.
25 posted on 10/28/2002 6:36:41 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: madfly
Bump & Index.

Sounds like the "gov't workers" are afraid of loosing their jobs.
26 posted on 10/28/2002 6:37:00 AM PST by chuknospam
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To: madfly
I especially liked this part:
"The Nature Conservancy, which owns the land where Ranch Rescue confiscated the marijuana, promptly asked the group to leave after the marijuana seizure..."
Of course!
Marijuana is just another organicly produced little bit of nature's bounty.
27 posted on 10/28/2002 6:40:07 AM PST by norton
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To: HiJinx
these guys are doing what they feel is right

Now you know this was written by a liberal.
Logical people do not "feel" that something is right or wrong. They look at the situation vs a rule set and see if it complies to the rule set or not.

The people that break our immigration laws, despite our empathy for their very human desire to get a better life, are criminals.
People who cannot handle this fact should work to change the immigration laws - increase the numbers of legal immigration, or pass "migrant worker" exceptions. Every person that comes in should be accounted for through legal processing. Anyone going around this legal process is a criminal.

28 posted on 10/28/2002 6:43:03 AM PST by MrB
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To: madfly
Related: INS is the root cause of the flood of illegal immigrants in this country. Here's proof,
29 posted on 10/28/2002 6:48:28 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Marine Inspector
ping

(thought you might be interested)

30 posted on 10/28/2002 7:03:59 AM PST by occam's chainsaw
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To: aeronca
Where is it written that Americans are to give up their rights to protect their lives and property just because the local, state and fed gov't created agencies to "protect the public" then fail to do so? These Americans are protecting not only their own lives and property but the lives and property of the Nation, by doing a job left by many well paid personnel.
31 posted on 10/28/2002 7:12:44 AM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
THE ELECTION IS IN 8 DAYS
AND I CAN'T VOTE.

PLEASE, HELP TAKE BACK THE SENATE.
IT'S FOR THE PUPPIES!

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32 posted on 10/28/2002 7:13:10 AM PST by ffrancone
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To: MrB
MrB, Miss Isabel disagrees with you.


Isabel Garcia
Aztlan Witch

33 posted on 10/28/2002 7:18:06 AM PST by madfly
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To: 4Freedom
bttt
34 posted on 10/28/2002 7:22:32 AM PST by madfly
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To: undergroundwarrior
Do you not suspect that one of the reasons so little is done to stop illegals and drug smuggling is because the profits are shared with law enforcement? Everyone of these so called agents should resign. They sure as hell are not doing us any good. With the exception of little Elian of course.
35 posted on 10/28/2002 7:26:02 AM PST by willyone
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To: madfly
"We understand the ranchers are frustrated" with immigrants and drug smugglers crossing their lands, said Kyle Barnette, a U.S. Customs associate special agent in charge in Arizona. "However, it's not an environment that novices or amateurs should be meddling in.

Right !! That's why the gov't should get the hell out of there !!


36 posted on 10/28/2002 7:31:03 AM PST by unixfox
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To: Sabertooth
............spend proportionately more time and resources...........

While I fully realize you are being sarcastic and funny, the point you make is also so true that it makes me sad.

37 posted on 10/28/2002 7:31:36 AM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: madfly
This is what it's getting down to??

And while our very own backyard -- the US borders -- remains an unsecured sieve, the U.S. military and intelligence are spending untold billions and doggedly tracking "enemy forces" via the latest technological means in a dozen other countries around the globe.

Good thing U.S. policy-makers aren't in the car-manufacturing business as well; Standard features would include a 500 hp engine; however brakes and steering wheel would be "optional".

38 posted on 10/28/2002 7:32:57 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: gubamyster
bttt
39 posted on 10/28/2002 8:19:03 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: madfly
If the INS was doing it's job, this situation wouldn't be happening.

Citizens have a right to protect themselves and their property. That's why they are called "citizens" and not "subjects", where the Crown holds all authority for law and order. If our feckless government agencies can't do their jobs, they should get out of the way and let somebody who can and wants to do it, do it.

I predict illegal immigration and border problems will quickly decrease in this area.

40 posted on 10/28/2002 8:41:02 AM PST by Gritty
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