Posted on 10/31/2002 9:03:05 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
Edited on 05/07/2004 7:12:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Michigan Republicans plan to station several hundred spotters at heavily Democratic voting precincts Tuesday to challenge voters they suspect are improperly or not registered.
State Democrats say the plan is aimed at intimidating minority voters in Detroit and a few other cities, and to reduce the number of votes for Democratic candidates.
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Isn't Detroit where it has been reported there are 150,000 (YES, 150,000) more ballots than voters?????????????????
Send some our way in Chicago!
One scheme here locally is for a husband/wife to come to the counter, one is registered at this location, and one at another. They will express confusion and insist that they are both registered at THIS location, and the poll worker will call down to the probate office and get an okay for both of them to vote at the first location. Then they leave, and try the same thing at the location where the other is registered.
This is what the Rats always say. Why would any legal voter be intimidated by a poll watcher?
I agree with you. I was involved in an election years and years ago that was stolen, by the polling workers at one site. The voting machines (close the curtain and flip switch type) have a digital read out on the back. Not who has been voted for, but how many votes have been cast. At 6pm 1000 votes had been cast (we checked) by 7 pm 2500 had been cast and we got killed in that precinct. Registar looked funny etc. Someone evidently just stepped in and went click click click click click.. etc. We didn't take it to court because of associated costs... but we thumped them the next election. And we had people at the polls all day with pad and pencil watching and writing everything down.
And ... I have poll watched for others as well. It is an important piece of the puzzle.
This from the party with 150,000 DEAD Democrats (and in some cases DEAD Republicans who had a post-mortem change of party) on the rolls in Detroit? How can you harass a DEAD person?
Correct. That's why the mayor of Detroit asked Granhom for $2 million of her campaign money. Usually when you support a candidate, you give their campaign some money. As a supporter, you normally don't demand money from a campaign.
All Detroit politicians have stashes of dead, non-existent, or multiple "voters" and absentee ballots. They jealously guard their stashes from each other, but for the right "consideration" can throw them all at the right candidate.
MI 2000 Totals 4,232,501 Gore 2,170,418 Bush 1,953,139 difference: 217,279 Wayne County MI Totals 768,417 Gore 530,414 Bush 223,021 difference: 307,393 MI 2000 Totals 4,167,685 Debbie Stabenow 2,061,952 Spence Abraham 1,994,693 difference: 67,259 Wayne County 759,508 Debbie Stabenow 512,759 Spence Abraham 228,547 difference: 284,212 Republican Supreme Court cadidates in bold Justice of the Supreme Court 8 Year Term (1) Position MI 2000 Totals 3,122,360 Marietta Robinson (D) 1,210,809 Clifford Taylor 1,675,147 Robert Roddis (L) 236,404 R/D difference: 464,338 Wayne 549,913 Marietta Robinson (D) 267,099 Clifford Taylor 241,868 Robert Roddis (L) 40,946 223,021 Wayne voters voted for George W. Bush 241,868 Wayne voters voted for Republican Clifford Taylor 18,847 difference (8%) 530,414 Wayne voters voted for Al Gore 267,099 Wayne voters voted for Marietta Robinson 263,315 difference (99%) Justice of the Supreme Court Incumbent - Partial Term Ending 01/01/2005 (1) Position MI 2000 Totals 3,042,826 Stephen Markman 1,707,977 David Raaflaub (L) 194,973 Edward Thomas (D) 1,139,876 Wayne 539,588 Stephen Markman 247,260 David Raaflaub (L) 31,232 Edward Thomas (D) 261,096 223,021 Wayne voters voted for George W. Bush 247,260 Wayne voters voted for Republican Stephen Markman 24,239 difference (10%) 530,414 Wayne voters voted for Al Gore 261,096 Wayne voters voted for Edward Thomas 269,318 difference (103%) Justice of the Supreme Court Incumbent - Partial Term Ending 01/01/2003 (1) Position MI 2000 Totals 3,120,496 E. Fitzgerald (D) 1,194,890 Jerry Kaufman (L) 311,589 Robert Young 1,614,017 Wayne 558,051 E. Fitzgerald (D) 258,276 Jerry Kaufman (L) 53,240 Robert Young 246,535 223,021 Wayne voters voted for George W. Bush 246,535 Wayne voters voted for Republican Robert Young 23,514 difference (10%) 530,414 Wayne voters voted for Al Gore 258,276 Wayne voters voted for E. Fitzgerald 272,138 difference (105%)========================
It's almost like they knew Taylor, Markman and Young were going to win regardless of loaded votes in Wayne, so they didn't even bother messing with it. Notice especially that the number of Bush voters nearly matches the number of Taylor, Markman and Young voters, whereas the Gore voters outnumber the voters for the liberal? candidates by more than 200,000. That, I believe, is the cheat margin.
They spent the time doctoring ballots for Gore and Liberal Debbie, but couldn't spare it in a losing cause for the Supreme Court candidates.
Probably the main reason for this is that you cannot pull a straight party lever for the Supreme Court candidates. You have to mark them each separately. Strange that the Republicans had time to mark their candidates, but the Democrats did not.
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Wayne difference ~ 230,000 liberal non-voters in Supremes races.
Gore beat Bush by 220,000 in Michigan.
Stabenow beat Abraham by 65,000.
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