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SICK SNIPER GOAL
New York Post ^ | 11/01/02 | NILES LATHEM and MARSHA KRANES

Posted on 11/01/2002 12:32:48 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:10:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

November 1, 2002 -- Investigators are becoming increasingly convinced that Beltway sniper suspect John Allen Muhammad went on his rampage because he planned to murder his ex-wife in what would appear to be a random slaying by a psycho spree killer, cops said.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
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I had a theory, early on, that this might be the case.
1 posted on 11/01/2002 12:32:48 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Total bs. This is an actual plot from a different spree killer in the past. The media will print any and all scenarios except one: Muslim terrorist.
2 posted on 11/01/2002 12:38:39 AM PST by thedugal
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To: thedugal
I agree. They have latched on to a scenario that allows them to ignore the Islamic reasons for these attacks.
3 posted on 11/01/2002 12:41:39 AM PST by twntaipan
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To: kattracks
This may be the case. But why did they shoot the other victim, or possible other victims, in other states? And why did he have a gps, computer, a travel agent calling a homeless shelter, possible travel out of the country, etc? That is alot of money going around for a couple of unemployed guys.

I know crazy people sometimes band together but I find it difficult to believe that one man can convince someone else to kill that many people, when the true goal is the death of just one person without sharing a similiar belief system. Or a faith. An extremly strong bond of some kind.

It is my understanding that Islam fosters just this type of kinship.

4 posted on 11/01/2002 12:57:21 AM PST by highpockets
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To: kattracks
No, but that is what the liberal media will try to spin it!

A better clue to his motive is that Muhammad was a devout radical Muslim extremist.
Muhammad helped provide security for Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan's "Million Man March" in Washington, D.C.

FARRAKHAN: "America, oh America. This great city of Washington is like Jerusalem. And the Bible says "Jerusalem, oh Jerusalem, you that stoneth and killith the prophets of God. Right from this beautiful Capitol and from the beautiful White House have come commands to kill the prophets. ...And from this house, you stoned and killed the prophets of God that would have liberated Black people, liberated America. ...Well, America, great America. Like Jerusalem that stoned and killed the prophets of God.
...God is angry. ...He's angry because you're wrong and you want to stone and kill the people who want to make you see you're wrong. ... It's easy for us to say, the White man did this, the White man that, the White man did the other, he deprived us of that. He killed the Indians. He did this. Yes, he did all of that.

5 posted on 11/01/2002 2:27:45 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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6 posted on 11/01/2002 2:31:13 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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7 posted on 11/01/2002 2:41:54 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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8 posted on 11/01/2002 2:44:14 AM PST by mhking
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To: kattracks
The sicker goal is this
9 posted on 11/01/2002 2:51:22 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: FL_engineer
It would be interesting to find out if he served with or knew Timothy McVeigh in Iraq.
10 posted on 11/01/2002 3:08:39 AM PST by metesky
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To: kattracks
Osbourne, the killing car's co-owner is arrested in Flint Michigan. Freepers here all shout CHECK OUT DETROIT! It turns out there IS a Johnnie Muhammad who lives or lived in Detroit. A database firm says that person is actually John A Muhammad, Age 41, Detroit Michigan. Police: Are you listening? I hope you've already been there to check it out. (I know our Alabama men-in-blue heroes certainly would have done this)
11 posted on 11/01/2002 3:11:57 AM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: thedugal
Agree about the b.s. I didn't and still don't see a "profiler" asking for a database search for all the FREEDOM loving Americans (/sarcasm) who have taken an Islamic name, and yet this ANTI-FREEDOM CRIMINAL FITS THAT PROFILE. Why not a profile of Democratic Crime Syndicate operative, Cynthia McKinney's financial backers? Her hate speeches may be the "Declaration of Independence" to a Muslim extremist. She may be out of office but the money people who supported her are still free to roam the landscape. This criminal enterprise, is much larger than we are led to believe. Mainstream propaganda doesn't touch that one.
12 posted on 11/01/2002 3:24:15 AM PST by PGalt
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To: kattracks
They [police] believe he planned to terrorize the area with random sniper attacks, then shoot Green.

Well, this must be right, at least as right as everything else they guessed at.

13 posted on 11/01/2002 4:16:57 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: kattracks
Mildred should now "throw herself" at Chief Moose in gratitude for his "brilliant" police work.

Wouldn't that be a storybook ending!
14 posted on 11/01/2002 4:22:13 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: thedugal
Why just one or the other? The gay muslim terrorist could have had multiple motives for his killings.
15 posted on 11/01/2002 4:24:22 AM PST by RWG
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To: RWG
I agree with you. These killers are not the typical serial murderers, killers with one set pattern. They've killed close up; they've killed from a distance. They've killed in a serial pattern; they've killed in a spree pattern. They've killed for robbery; they've killed just for the helluva it. They've killed for a probable personal motive; they've killed strangers. It was their randomness and unpredictability that made them so dangerous.

Killing Mohammed's ex-wife is one possible motive out of any number of motives these killers have employed.

16 posted on 11/01/2002 5:41:15 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: RWG
I agree with you. This man was overflowing with resentments and psychopathic behavior. He had many grudges, and could have been "saving" the execution of his wife for some particular occasion.

When studying the map of the DC/Md/Va shootings I noticed the avoidance of that southeast sector of the DC suburbs, and tried to figure out the significance of it.

The five deaths in a cluster most likely relate to the '5%er' group of the Nation of Islam.

Then he went east to the school, and southwest to the shopping malls, but never southeast. At the time, I figured that the area offered too few escape routes, but the stalking aspect of that area being of the most importance to him makes much more sense.
17 posted on 11/01/2002 5:59:59 AM PST by maica
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To: kattracks
Horse crap... They would have traced her ties back to him and he would have no alibi. It would defeat the purpose of killing everyone else because the victims get extensive background checks.

This of course, is just my opinion.
18 posted on 11/01/2002 6:14:46 AM PST by smith288
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To: kattracks
Are we to assume that everyone acts rationally, logically as if they had a "business plan". Evil people are, by self-definition inconsistent liars and deceivers. They can have two unrelated motivations that are both primary motivations for an act.

Those of us who value logic are illogical if we think everyone is like us.

20 posted on 11/01/2002 6:39:28 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: kattracks
Muhammad's second ex, Mildred Green, lives in Clinton, Md., 15 miles southeast of Washington - which is why cops believe he chose the capital and its suburbs as his killing ground.

I wonder if she works at Michael's, given that many of the shootings were near one?

21 posted on 11/01/2002 8:23:45 AM PST by AfghanAirShow
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To: kattracks
Then why are they thinking that there may be a third person out there?
22 posted on 11/01/2002 8:27:28 AM PST by abner
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To: kattracks
When will the authorities in this country pull their heads out of the sand?

Until we recognize who the enemy is (Mohammedanism) and what their goals are (total domination of the world), we will lose. We are losing now, and I don't see any change in the foreseeable future.
23 posted on 11/01/2002 8:32:41 AM PST by Guillermo
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To: mhking; highpockets
It's possible that Muhammad killed as many people as he did to get more attention for when he would execute the final blow against his ex-wife. If he simply went straight to her and shot her it wouldn't get a fraction of the headlines that he got by whacking 10 other people.
24 posted on 11/01/2002 10:57:52 PM PST by mafree
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To: FL_engineer
Nitrate used in Indonesian bomb

I don't have the article to link to at the moment, but wasn't there a Ammonium Nitrate car bomb in Iraq, detonated with explosives not more than a week or two ago?

25 posted on 01/01/2005 10:13:05 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Guillermo
We are losing now, and I don't see any change in the foreseeable future.

Political correctness run amok. It rears it's ugly head around holidays.

26 posted on 01/01/2005 11:01:11 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I don't know, but am not surprised. There was lots of
fertilizer stockpiled in military garrisons all around Iraq.
Plus the recipe for making amonium nitrate and diesel fuel
bombs is well distributed all over the muslim world.


27 posted on 01/01/2005 11:12:14 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer

Even damp wheat stored in a grain bin is an explosive material. Grain blowers are used quite frequently to keep the grain dry and from becoming a huge disaster waiting to happen, plus, keeping the grain from sprouting inside the bin itself.


28 posted on 01/01/2005 11:24:17 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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