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RILEY (R) TO BE ANNOUNCED NEW ALABAMA GOVERNOR 11:00 A.M.
Posted on 11/06/2002 5:20:01 AM PST by CWW
Dewey Defeats Truman -- Riley to pull out victory from the jaws of defeat due to 6,000 electronic error in Baldwin County
Last night Alabamans went to bed with the incumbent Democrat Governor announcing victory by a slim margin of 3,000 votes. I was at the Republican victory party working the Attorney General campaign when the call came in from Republican candidate Bob Riley's son telling us that 6,000 votes had been improperly counted for the democrat in Baldwin County, a Republican stronghold. This morning, I have learned that Rob Riley was right -- there was a cartridge error on one of the voting machines which will flip 6,000 votes to Republican Candidate Riley. The Probate Judge will certify the votes this morning and the Secretary of State's Office will certify Riley as the winner at approximately 12:00 p.m.
BTW, THIS IS A REPUBLICAN PICK UP OF A GOVERNOR'S SEAT!
KEYWORDS: alabama; elections; governor
This victory is going to be extremely sweet!!!
posted on 11/06/2002 5:20:01 AM PST
To: CWW; commish
A bump and a ping.
posted on 11/06/2002 5:22:07 AM PST
The good news just keeps rolling in!
posted on 11/06/2002 5:22:40 AM PST
by The G Man
To: CWW; habs4ever
posted on 11/06/2002 5:22:48 AM PST
RILEY (R) TO BE ANNOUNCED NEW ALABAMA GOVERNOR 11:00 A.M.
I had two cases of beer bet on the outcome of this race. I went to bed thinking I owed them. You're telling me of a four-case "swing."
posted on 11/06/2002 5:25:36 AM PST
Omigosh, is this TRUE??? Please???? I was a poll watcher yesterday, and just came home and went to bed after followin the precinct inspector to the court house. Our rural precinct had less than three hundred votes cast (which they said was HUGE for a mid term) and Riley was behind in our precint by double digits.
Isn't life Grand? It is a beautiful day here in Georgia! Apparently, Alabama's weather is looking pretty good as well.
posted on 11/06/2002 5:27:24 AM PST
Of course "Done Singleterm" will most certainly contest this. What are the legal hurdles here?
Alabama does not have an AUtomatic Recount Law, and STATEWIDE Recounts are not allowed. Candidate's must Petition COUNTY by COUNTY and MUST PAY FOR ANY RECOUNT they request.
posted on 11/06/2002 5:32:10 AM PST
To: Larry Lucido
No. My family all has numbers following their name.
Seigelman can sream all he wants that he won, but until the Probate Judge certifies the numbers, it ain't a vote! The certified result is what counts!!
posted on 11/06/2002 5:34:40 AM PST
YOu know that Jim Bennett has to be chomping at the bit to Certify this election!
posted on 11/06/2002 5:36:21 AM PST
OK good. Looks like he'll have a tough time if he attempts to contest it. Can they get an injunction to prevent Baldwin from certifying today?
No, they can't Contest until the votes are certified. Sort of a catch-22 for ole Don
posted on 11/06/2002 5:37:41 AM PST
HAve Absentee's already been counted? COuld they have an effect or is Bob pretty sure they will go his way?
posted on 11/06/2002 5:38:34 AM PST
Wow! Great, I went to bed last night and Siegelman was giving his victory speech!!
posted on 11/06/2002 5:38:44 AM PST
I wonder about the absentees also. I remember this being an issue in the 94 Supreme Court race. Although I think the number of votes between the two was less than 500. Here the difference is 3000 plus or minus.
How about this turn of events?!?
posted on 11/06/2002 5:52:59 AM PST
posted on 11/06/2002 5:54:07 AM PST
Do we have a public source yet? I thought something was funny last night when Riley's 8 vote lead suddenly switched to a 6000 vote deficit. Also, APTs website was reporting Riley and Seigelman's numbers reversed from the numbers on the TV stations...literally identical number but with Riley's name next to the higher total and Seigelman's next to the lower total.
posted on 11/06/2002 5:56:04 AM PST
The issue in 1994 was that the Absentee Ballots were never counted (at least not at first). Also there was the Truck full of Ballots that DISSAPPEARED and then REAPPEARED in the back of the lot of a company run by a big Dem Donor.
The Dems tried to get the Absentee ballots thrown out, then produce3d this truck full of UNSIGNED ballots and tried to get those counted.
posted on 11/06/2002 5:56:19 AM PST
I heard it from Bob Riley himself this morning on the Rick and Bubba show.
Rick and Bubba, Rick and Bubba, The two sexiest fat men alive!
posted on 11/06/2002 6:01:59 AM PST
Great headline!Congrats to Alabamastan! You can now leave the house to get another carton of smokes ;-)Watch where you step!
LOL! Well, then, Go Riley2004!!
And of course the Liberal SFGATE article lies outright and gets the story completely wrong. Baldwin County NEVER REPORTED the 19,000 vote number, they have said it was 12,000 all ALONG. It was MISTYPED into the computer as 19,000 in the numbers that AP sent out.
REPEAT : BALDWIN COUNTY HAS NEVER SAID SIEGELMAN HAD 19,000 VOTES, THEY HAVE SAID 12,000 THE ENTIRE TIME.
posted on 11/06/2002 6:37:52 AM PST
posted on 11/06/2002 6:44:04 AM PST
Nothing would please me more that to have Siegelman defeated (except maybe seeing The Gate Band play again).
posted on 11/06/2002 6:57:26 AM PST
"REPEAT : BALDWIN COUNTY HAS NEVER SAID SIEGELMAN HAD 19,000 VOTES, THEY HAVE SAID 12,000 THE ENTIRE TIME."
As a Baldwin Countian that sure makes me feel better... I couldn't help but think of all the Floriduh jokes.
Siegelman was so sure he'd won when he made his 'victory' speech. I can't wait to listen to the 'Uncle Henry' show this afternoon! (WNTM 710AM 2-3pm...followed, unfortunately, by the Paul Slimbalm show).
oh well... the APT site is now saying that Siegelman is ahead.
Those are the old numbers without the Baldwin County revisions. Singleterm should be at 667,718 now.
Siegelman, Riley disputing results in governor's race
By PHILLIP RAWLS
The Associated Press
11/6/02 9:50 AM
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) -- With both candidates for governor claiming victory in an extraordinarily close race, Democratic incumbent Don Siegelman and Republican challenger Bob Riley sent out supporters early Wednesday to check vote totals after a dispute arose over the tally in a GOP stronghold.
While most attention was focused on coastal Baldwin County -- which could swing the election to one candidate or the other depending on which vote tally was correct -- numbers were getting a closer look across Alabama.
"We are investigating all over the state," said Siegelman spokesman Rip Andrews.
Riley aide David Azbell said GOP supporters were fanned out "to make sure our votes don't get stolen" by Siegelman. The candidate scheduled a late morning news conference.
Election officials in Republican-dominated Baldwin County originally showed Siegelman with 19,070 votes, but later reduced his tally to 12,736. The change could be enough to put Riley in the lead in the razor-thin race in which the margin of victory would be only a few thousand out of 1.3 million cast.
The dispute threw the tight race into turmoil. Siegelman declared victory at a party in Montgomery, telling supporters, "How sweet it is." Meanwhile, Riley was also declaring himself the victor, telling supporters in Talladega: "We win. Alabama's got a new day coming."
Baldwin County's initial tally put Siegelman on top 674,052 to 670,913, a margin of 3,139. The revised number put Riley in the lead 670,913 to 667,718, a margin of 3,195. Libertarian John Sophocleus polled 23,242 votes by both accounts.
The 19,070 vote total for Siegelman was given in a printout of Baldwin County votes that was provided to news organizations, including The Associated Press.
But Capt. Marvin Ussery of the Baldwin County Sheriff's Department said Siegelman's numbers were lowered after voting machine cartridges from polling places were rerun because of a suspected error. Probate Judge James Reid said the lowered number would be certified as the official result later Wednesday.
Andrews said the governor believes his original tally was correct in Baldwin County.
The dispute stirred images of the presidential election in Florida two years ago.
"Do you remember what happened in Florida and how close the vote was and the hanging chads?" Riley said.
Alabama does not have a law providing for an automatic recount in tight races. Instead, a voter can seek a recount with each county canvassing board, but it requires putting up a security bond, said Chuck Grainger, attorney for the secretary of state's office.
Rain fell across the state throughout election day and a killer tornado hit Abbeville in southeast Alabama, but with 1.3 million votes cast, the total exceeded the 1998 race for governor, when turnout was 57 percent.
Riley, 58, was a three-term congressman making his first bid for statewide office. He accused Siegelman of presiding over a corrupt administration and promised "honest change" if elected.
Siegelman, 56, built his campaign around raising money for public education by making a second attempt at passing a state lottery and raising corporate taxes.
For many voters, the lottery was the main reason to brave the weather, and it played both ways.
Montgomery construction worker Steven Law said he voted for Siegelman after working in Texas and Florida and seeing how lottery revenues have helped their schools.
"They're way ahead of us," Law said.
Mary Dueitt, a 72-year-old homemaker who voted in Deer Park in southwest Alabama, said she got disgusted with both candidates for running negative campaigns, but ended up voting for Riley because she dislikes a lottery.
"I am not for that at all," she said.
posted on 11/06/2002 8:16:53 AM PST
thanks yellowhammer :)
Wow, I went to bed last night after Riley went from 2500 ahead to 5500 behind in a matter of second. I knew something was amiss right then.
I sure hope you know what you are talking about. I will confirm that I recieved my email from Riley saying everyone needs to be in B'Ham for his 11 AM statement... But what I said was still an enigma... I hope what you suggest is it.
I know I will be hooting and hollering...
posted on 11/06/2002 8:41:59 AM PST
He got my vote, being how he aint a lawyer!
To: Bay Minette Redneck
Votes certified.... 12,736 Siegelman 31,052 votes in Baldwin.
To: Bay Minette Redneck
Votes certified.... 12,736 Siegelman 31,052 Riley votes in Baldwin.
Fabulous! Are all counties' votes in now? Is this a Riley win?
posted on 11/06/2002 9:00:46 AM PST
A 15-yard penalty against the Republicans for piling on the Democrats.
posted on 11/06/2002 9:05:12 AM PST
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