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Empty victory for a hollow man How Norm Coleman sold his soul for a Senate seat.
Salon.com ^ | Nov. 7, 2002 | By Garrison Keillor

Posted on 11/08/2002 5:13:50 PM PST by AlwaysLurking

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To: Timesink
He rarely leaves the Upper West Side of Manhattan, except to do his radio show...

Except to dump his wife, marry someone a lot younger, move to Denmark, find out he couldn't really do his schtick there, and then move back.

What a sad thing! This is a really, seriously talented and original man, who has done fabulous work in print and on the radio. And his politics are just about what you'd expect of a movie star. Of course, satiric writers are not known for level-headedness. Cf., Kurt Vonnegut, Joseph Heller, Gore Vidal, Norman Mailer, Woody Allen, etc.

181 posted on 11/08/2002 9:50:23 PM PST by MoralSense
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To: AlwaysLurking
My husband likes Keillor and that insipid Prairie Home Whatever. I've never clicked with it, but never knew why.

Now I do!

182 posted on 11/08/2002 9:52:03 PM PST by Exit148
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To: AlwaysLurking
WHAT!!!! No BARF alert?!!
183 posted on 11/08/2002 9:53:59 PM PST by AndrewC
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To: AlwaysLurking
He had more dignity than to kiss the president's shoe.


184 posted on 11/08/2002 9:55:33 PM PST by Timesink
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To: AlwaysLurking
He had more dignity than to kiss the president's shoe.


185 posted on 11/08/2002 9:57:25 PM PST by Timesink
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To: AlwaysLurking
In Lake Wobegon, all children named Keillor are equally dense...
187 posted on 11/08/2002 10:03:47 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: Nick Danger; anniegetyourgun; Cultural Jihad
Empty victory for a hollow man How Norm Coleman sold his soul for a Senate seat.

Tell the truth; aren't you surprised old Garrison wasn't struck dead for writing that headline?

He obviously missed Mondale's soul selling.

188 posted on 11/08/2002 10:04:41 PM PST by Howlin
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To: AlwaysLurking
" To choose Coleman over Walter Mondale is one of those dumb low-rent mistakes..."

This is where I had to stop reading... It's called a credibility problem with the author.

189 posted on 11/08/2002 10:07:40 PM PST by Enough is ENOUGH
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To: Heff
Heck, I said vile things about Richard Nixon, didn't you?
190 posted on 11/08/2002 10:09:07 PM PST by Howlin
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To: AlwaysLurking
They're just jealous 'cause Coleman had a soul left...
191 posted on 11/08/2002 10:09:49 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: nutmeg
bump to read later
192 posted on 11/08/2002 10:10:10 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: ambrose
"The guy is a Brooklyn boy who became a left-wing student radical, organized antiwar marches, said vile things about Richard Nixon, etc. Then he came west, was elected mayor of St. Paul as a moderate Democrat, ---"

Ah, correct me if I'm wrong -- but I don't think I am -- doesn't that describe Bill Clinton to a T?

Norm switched parties as you'd change sport coats.

Sort of like Jim Jeffords?

193 posted on 11/08/2002 10:11:08 PM PST by Howlin
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To: tonyinv
I dont recall any conservative voices blaming the people after 1992 & 1996. I could be wrong about that, but it seems to me conservatives are alot more introspective after losing.

No, you are absolutely correct. It was precisely the Democrats' constant blaming of the VOTERS or, at least, of the party's campaign tactics, instead of their platform, after losing elections that first made me think, "Wait a minute, what's wrong with these people?" back in high school.

194 posted on 11/08/2002 10:12:21 PM PST by Timesink
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To: nutmeg
It'll just make you mad. :-)
195 posted on 11/08/2002 10:15:37 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Colonel_Flagg; cibco; Lancey Howard; Congressman Billybob; jackbill; SarahW; jlogajan; ...
Because you all asked (don't shoot the messenger) . . .

First, let me say that I am a lifelong conservative, and member of this website since 1998. I've also been very involved in Minnesota politics, and know of what I speak. I also voted for Coleman, so I'm not just bashing him.

Coleman, as I've said on many threads previously here on FR, has been heavily rumored to have a zipper problem for years, particularly chasing after waitresses at the St. Paul Grill. I've discussed this with other elected Republican officials here in MN, and they have said the same thing.

Regarding Laurie, she was "sent" to California back in 1998 when Coleman was running for governor. She does not like politics, and there is nothing worse for a married male politician than to not have the wife by their side campaigning. She had work found for her by Republican operatives, and has stayed out there working. What the true nature of their relationship is, I don't really know - but look at Bill and Hillary, and don't think that doesn't happen to officials on both sides of the political spectrum.

Coleman is also not that conservative, aside from the tax and abortion issues, and will have votes that will leave you scratching your head. He is, at best, neutral on the homosexual issue, having initially signed the "homo-day" proclamation at least once while mayor, and, after losing the governor's race in 1998, hiring a known DemoRat transsexual to his staff (whether "it" is still there, I don't know). I remember a humorous incident during the 1998 primaries in St. Cloud, where one of the candidates running against Coleman was passing out copies of the "homo-day" proclamation, and witnessing two of his younger aides scurrying around attempting to pick them all up as soon as handed out or taped up.

In answer to the question of "why hasn't this come out", I can only say that Minnesota is a different place. Former Sen. Rod Grams was openly having an affair with his top aide after he was initially elected to Congress in 1992. In fact, his entire congressional staff quit over this, and split up to staff his two challengers in the Republican primary to the Senate in 1994 (of which I was a part of one of them). We were all told to keep quiet about it and not mention it during the campaign. It was well known that Rod's now-former wife (unlike Hutchinson, Grams waited two years after being elected to dump his wife, and didn't marry the aide until after his defeat) would never go out to Washington, and the aide would never come back to Minnesota. Could go on, but really quite sad. Suffice to say, this never made it out into the media, even after Rod's divorce. Also, former governor candidate Jon Gruenseth (he of the alleged swimming pool incident) was also carrying on an affair during his campaign, and also never reported. Same thing with several other Republican politicians. In sports, it's the same thing - aside from Randy Moss, malcontents are never written poorly about until after they retire/leave town. It's just the Minnesota way.

So there you have it. No hard proof about a zipper problem, but I've heard enough, and from credible people, to know that it is probably true. Their marriage is unconventional, at best, but again I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it is actually Clintonian in nature. Sorry to disappoint.

196 posted on 11/08/2002 10:16:42 PM PST by GreatOne
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To: Exit148
See there, we were right again!
197 posted on 11/08/2002 10:16:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: GreatOne
As long as he doesn't "tax our a$$e$ off", he's better than duh'fritz.
198 posted on 11/08/2002 10:20:08 PM PST by evolved_rage
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To: GreatOne
Well, I don't think they have those same "rules" in D.C., do you? I hope Karl Rove has this under control.
199 posted on 11/08/2002 10:21:16 PM PST by Howlin
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To: evolved_rage
Absolutely - that's why I voted for him. I didn't vote for him for governor in 1998 because of what I know, but with the judges being at the top of my priority list, couldn't not vote for him this time around. Will be a reliable Republican vote on most issues.
200 posted on 11/08/2002 10:22:11 PM PST by GreatOne
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