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Pelosi's Socialist Ties
Newsmax,com ^ | November 13, 2002 | Carl Limbacher?

Posted on 11/13/2002 12:33:46 PM PST by OldCorps

Something the leftist media establishment doesn't want you to know: San Francisco Democrat Nancy Pelosi's ties to socialism.

Writing in the Washington Times, Balint Vazsonyi notes that in a recent New York Times article about the soon-to-be House minority leader, there was not "a single mention of her executive position in the Progressive Caucus, and the latter's ties to the Socialist International."

"Question: If an international organization existed to carry the torch for Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini, and if a person running for minority leader had past or present ties to such an organization, what are the chances the New York Times would find it irrelevant to the matter at hand?" asks Vazsonyi.

"None. Zero. Nada.

"Double standards: Do you remember the Austrian nationalist Joerg Haider? He had no such affiliation. Yet the mere possibility that he might harbor sympathies for National Socialist ideas sufficed to make him, and the country in which he holds office, an international pariah.

"The Socialist International carries the torch for Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, V.I. Lenin, Leon Trotsky, and Josef Stalin. Pay no attention to the desperate attempts by socialists to distance themselves from Stalin. For our purposes, it suffices to observe that every single tenet of the Socialist International is the exact opposite of the principles upon which America was founded, and which define the U.S. Constitution.

"For our purposes, it suffices also to observe that members of the U.S. Congress are required to furnish an oath whereby they will preserve, protect, and defend said Constitution.

"DSA/USA, the 'Democratic Socialists of America' are the U.S. arm of the Socialist International. They share the symbol of the fist holding the rose, and they share the tasks to be accomplished — in our case, an altogether different America.

"Some time ago — the date is missing from the descriptions — 58 members of the U.S. House of Representatives formed a subdivision of the Democratic Socialists of America and called it the Progressive Caucus. Their statement of purpose, as well as their membership list, formed an integral part of the dsausa Web site (www.dsausa.org). The membership list appeared on the screen with the continuous background of the fist holding the rose, should anyone have missed the connection with the Socialist International."

After the Washington Times in November 1998 blew the whistle on the so-called "Progressive" Caucus, "action was taken to hide the true nature of the organization, and its membership list was eventually taken off the dsausa Web site."

Vazsonyi continues: "Rep. Nancy Pelosi has long been, and is now, a member of the executive committee of the Progressive Caucus. Her election as minority leader would firmly establish the link between the Democratic Caucus of the U.S. House of Representatives and the Socialist International.

"The U.S. Constitution places no restrictions on political creeds. There is no earthly reason why socialists could not be elected to Congress if the people so choose. There is a question of honesty, though. Candidates for office ought to put their cards on the table."

No wonder some Democrat congressmen are ready to bolt the party.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: engels; international; lenin; marx; socialist
This is really no surprise. The RAT party has always been manipulated by the socialists.
1 posted on 11/13/2002 12:33:46 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
Vazsonyi continues: "Rep. Nancy Pelosi has long been, and is now, a member of the executive committee of the Progressive Caucus. Her election as minority leader would firmly establish the link between the Democratic Caucus of the U.S. House of Representatives and the Socialist International.

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That sound you hear is the toilet being flushed on the Dumb-O-Insects.

2 posted on 11/13/2002 12:38:33 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: chiefqc
I always thought their link was established long ago, and only recently cemented with Mr. and Mrs. Evil.
3 posted on 11/13/2002 12:41:25 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: OldCorps
Shhhh....it's important for them to elect her as their leader. She is everything the D party stands for.
4 posted on 11/13/2002 12:46:11 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: OldCorps; wardaddy; swarthyguy
If the Democrats chose Pelosi then they are truly crazy! Pelosi as a choice means that the cRats get one step closer to becoming like the Whigs or the Anti-Mason Political Parties .....extinct!

Even for a cRat Pelosi is extreme! She represents a region (San Francisco) that (even by Liberal standards) is waaaaaay off the beaten path. And yet they expect her to help their party!

LOL ....i guess the cRats are becoming less like rats and more like Lemmings! Heading off to their ultimate doom in spectacular fashion ....like lemmings to a cliff. After all, chosing Pelosi is tantamount to suicide for the party. She has no knack for deception, no way to obfuscate, she lacks a facade of honesty, and her grasp of verbal gymnastics is atrophied (in essence she lacks the 'attributes' the make a slick cRat). She is just a bad thing waiting to happen for the cRats!

If i were a cRat i would hope that they chose Ford jr from Tn. After all that kid has Clintonesque appeal (Bill not Hillary) and would surely dupe a lot of voters when necessary. He seems well versed in facades and driving points home (even when it is just lip service) as could be seen in his TV interviews. And he is by far more appealing than Pelosi could ever hope to be.

However since i am not a cRat Pelosi is fine with me since by chosing her the cRats will be ensuring their hastened extinction!

5 posted on 11/13/2002 12:47:29 PM PST by spetznaz
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To: OldCorps
Are you sure they are socialist binds er uh - I mean ties?

6 posted on 11/13/2002 12:48:16 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: anniegetyourgun
Yes! All this Pelosi-bashing must stop until she is safely elected to the post and the fun begins!
7 posted on 11/13/2002 12:48:53 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: spycatcher; VaBthang4
Stupid cRat PING
8 posted on 11/13/2002 12:50:25 PM PST by spetznaz
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To: JennysCool
Okay I won't post anymore of her "I need a date with a congressman" pictures.
9 posted on 11/13/2002 12:51:33 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: OldCorps
The web page for the Members of the Progressive Caucus is not completely off of the web.

http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:HAjTmwvmYlMC:www.dsausa.org/pc/pc.members.html+Progressive+Caucus&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

10 posted on 11/13/2002 12:51:33 PM PST by MissHardihood
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To: areafiftyone
Re photo - did she borrow that whip from Condidit???
11 posted on 11/13/2002 12:53:52 PM PST by bluewater bird
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To: bluewater bird
She whipped him.
12 posted on 11/13/2002 12:55:18 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: bluewater bird
No, Hildabeast.
13 posted on 11/13/2002 12:55:20 PM PST by RetiredArmy
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To: anniegetyourgun
Shhhh....it's important for them to elect her as their leader.

Yes. We need Comrade Pelosi right where the US can see her.

14 posted on 11/13/2002 12:55:35 PM PST by elbucko
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To: MissHardihood
Waddalistolosers!
15 posted on 11/13/2002 1:03:00 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: bluewater bird
lol,

why do you think she and Condit were such big buds? They both have the same (ahem) tastes!!!

what a great day! I'll celebrate tomorow when she is elected queen!

The pubs should get a few conservative democrats (i know the term is a contradiction here) to cross the aisle after she is sworn in by the Evil One.

HOoooeeee. what a great day to be an American!!
16 posted on 11/13/2002 1:03:02 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
I believe Balint Vazsonyi to be one of the premier writers in defense of America, read "America's 30 years War, who is winning, his web site: http://www.founding.org is great!
17 posted on 11/13/2002 1:07:35 PM PST by Burlem
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To: MissHardihood
Thanks for the website. The one you listed also referred to another commie/leftwing/liberal site here:

http://www.igc.apc.org/

what a bunch of cumbaya singing, whirled peas lovin liberals! Gag me. Dan, what's the frequency, lol!
18 posted on 11/13/2002 1:08:58 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
in a recent New York Times article about the soon-to-be House minority leader, there was not "a single mention of her executive position in the Progressive Caucus, and the latter's ties to the Socialist International."

Why would the NYT change now? In the '30's an NYT reporter named Walter Duranty, a member of the Communist Party USA, sent dispatches from Russia to the NYT that won him the Pulitzer Prize. Duranty doesn't mention that Stalin is killing Ukrainians by starvation and giving Hitler a lesson in mass murder. No, Duranty paints a "Rosey" picture of Stalins 5 year plan to "Collectivise" the the rich farm land of Russia's Eastern regions.

If the New York Times isn't going to report accurately the fertilization of the Kulaks farms with the flesh of their murdered bodies, why should the Times even mention Pelosi?

19 posted on 11/13/2002 1:10:44 PM PST by elbucko
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To: spetznaz
It amazes me as well that they would elect such a shrill polarizer. It just shows how out of touch they are with everyone except their own hardcore base.

Many in the media will love her though. First woman and all that usual crap.
20 posted on 11/13/2002 1:13:03 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: areafiftyone
It's too bad Gary Condit is gone. Judging by the picture he and Pelosi would have had quite a lot in common. (black leather, whips, stc.)
21 posted on 11/13/2002 1:13:33 PM PST by resistance
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To: OldCorps
We need to make sure her socialist ties are very well known.

22 posted on 11/13/2002 1:15:48 PM PST by EternalHope
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To: spetznaz
Black turnout was down in FL and MD; the Dums, if they were thinking, to energise their base, would have nominated Ford. A smart, young telegenic guy who would have sparked a resurgence of black pride and have proven to be a useful counterweight to the Sharpton/Jackson crowd.

Instead, they've gone with the same old same old.

Sort of like how Dole ended up with the 96 nomination
23 posted on 11/13/2002 1:17:24 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: OldCorps
This is really no surprise. The RAT party has always been manipulated by the socialists.

Yeah, but most folk don't know this. They don't REALLY know that these guys are communists/socialists with an agenda to destroy the Constitution and change our form of government. I don't understand why conservative pundits don't harp all over this to expose the creeps.

24 posted on 11/13/2002 1:17:27 PM PST by ThomasMore
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To: MissHardihood
Excellent find. Any sub-section of Congress that includes Baghdad Jim McDermott, Clinton apologist Conyer, and terrorist mouthpiece Cynthia McKinney is a den of evil.
25 posted on 11/13/2002 1:22:23 PM PST by jiggyboy
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To: elbucko
Your post is interesting. It reminds me that I read somewhere the NYT had a correspondent who was in the thick of the bolshevik revolution. I've always wondered if the NYT published editorials cheering on the murder of Russia's imperail family and the liquidation of the hierarchs of the Russian Orthodox Church. Do you have any information on this?
26 posted on 11/13/2002 1:38:59 PM PST by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
Pelosi = neo-Stalinist.

Who woulda thunk...?

27 posted on 11/13/2002 1:39:29 PM PST by martin gibson
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To: OldCorps
 
Yoo Hoo!
 
 
 
Am not exactly sure what the "Last Update" date of Jan. 15 1998 is referring to - the list itself or the webpage it was on.
 
Lifted this directly off their site many moons ago.
 

Members of the Progressive Caucus

Representative (State-District) Address Phone, Fax Email Web Page
Rep Earl Hilliard (AL-07) 1314 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2665, Fax: 202-226-0772
Rep Eni Faleomavaega (AS-AL) 2422 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-8577, Fax: 202-225-8757
Rep Ed Pastor (AZ-02) 2465 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4065, Fax: 202-225-1655 edpastor@mail.house.gov http://aspin.asu.edu/~pctp/pastor/pastor.html
Rep Lynn C Woolsey (CA-06) 439 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0529 Phone: 202-225-5161, Fax: 202-225-5163 woolsey@mail.house.gov http://www.house.gov/woolsey/
Rep George Miller (CA-07) 2205 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2095, Fax: 202-225-5609 gmiller@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/georgemiller/
Rep Nancy Pelosi (CA-08) 2457 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4965, Fax: 202-225-8259 sfnancy@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/pelosi/
Rep Fortney "Pete" Stark (CA-13) 239 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5065, Fax: 202-226-3805 petemail@hr.house.gov
Rep Henry A. Waxman (CA-29) 2204 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-3976, Fax: 202-225-4099 http://www.house.gov/waxman/
Rep Xavier Becerra (CA-30) 1119 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0530 Phone: 202-225-6235, Fax: 202-225-2202
Rep Julian C. Dixon (CA-32) 2252 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0532 Phone: 202-225-7084, Fax: 202-225-4091
Rep Esteban Edward Torres (CA-34) 2269 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0534 Phone: 202-225-5256, Fax: 202-225-9711 arcoiris@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/torres/
Rep Maxine Waters (CA-35) 2344 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2201, Fax: 202-225-7854
Rep George E. Brown (CA-42) 2300 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6161, Fax: 202-225-8671 talk2geb@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/georgebrown/
Rep Bob Filner (CA-50) 330 Cannon House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-3461, Fax: 202-226-4169
Rep Diane DeGette (CO-01) 1404 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4431, Fax: 202-225-5657
Rep Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC-AL) 1424 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-8050, Fax: 202-225-3002 http://www.house.gov/norton/
Rep Corrine Brown (FL-03) 1610 Longworth House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 225-0123, Fax: 202-225-2256
Rep Carrie P. Meek (FL-17) 401 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0917 Phone: 202-225-4506, Fax: 202-226-0777 http://www.house.gov/meek/
Rep Alcee L. Hastings (FL-23) 1039 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-1313, Fax: 202-226-0690 hastings@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/alceehastings/
Rep Cynthia A. McKinney (GA-04) 124 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-1605, Fax: 202-226-0691 http://www.house.gov/mckinney/
Rep John Lewis (GA-05) 229 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-1005 Phone: 202-225-3801, Fax: 202-225-0351
Rep Neil Abercrombie (HI-01) 1233 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2726, Fax: 202-225-4580 neil@abercrombie.house.gov http://www.house.gov/abercrombie/
Rep Patsy Mink (HI-02) 2135 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515-0917 Phone: 202-225-4906, Fax: 202-225-4987
Rep Jesse Jackson (IL-02) 313 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-0773, Fax: 202-225-0899
Rep Luis Gutierrez (IL-04) 408 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-8203, Fax: 202-225-7810 luisg@mail.house.gov
Rep Danny Davis (IL-07) 1218 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5006, Fax: 202-225-5641
Rep Lane Evans (IL-17) 2335 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5905, Fax: 202-225-5396
Rep Julia Carson (IN-10) 1541 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4011, Fax: 202-226-4093 jcarson@indy.net
Rep John Olver (MA-01) 1027 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5335, Fax: 202-226-1224 olver@mail.house.gov
Rep Jim McGovern (MA-03) 512 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5759, Fax: 202-225-6101 james.mcgovern@mail.house.gov
Rep Barney Frank (MA-04) 2210 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5931, Fax: 202-225-0182 http://www.house.gov/frank/
Rep John Tierney (MA-06) 120 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-8020, Fax: 202-225-5915
Rep David Bonior (MI-10) 2207 Rayburn House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2106, Fax: 202-226-1169
Rep John Conyers (MI-14) 2426 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5126, Fax: 202-225-0072 jconyers@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/conyers/
Rep Bennie G. Thompson (MS-02) 1408 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5876, Fax: 202-225-5898 ms2nd@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/thompson/
Rep Melvin L. Watt (NC-12) 1230 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-1510, Fax: 202-225-1512 melmail@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/watt/
Rep Donald Payne (NJ-10) 2244 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-3436, Fax: 202-225-4160
Rep Jerrold Nadler (NY-08) 2448 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5635, Fax: 202-225-6923 nadler@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/nadler/
Rep Major Owens (NY-11) 2305 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6231, Fax: 202-226-0112
Rep Nydia M. Velazquez (NY-12) 1221 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2361, Fax: 202-226-0327 http://www.house.gov/velazquez/
Rep Charles Rangel (NY-15) 2354 Rayburn House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4365, Fax: 202-225-0816 http://www.house.gov/serrano/
Rep Maurice Hinchey (NY-26) 2431 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6335, Fax: 202-226-0774 hinchey@mail.house.gov
Rep John LaFalce (NY-29) 2310 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-3231, Fax: 202-225-8693
Rep Marcy Kaptur (OH-09) 2311 Rayburn House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4146, Fax: 202-225-7711
Rep Dennis Kucinich (OH-10) 1730 Longworth House Office Building , Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-5871, Fax: 202-225-5745
Rep Louis Stokes (OH-11) 2365 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-7032, Fax: 202-225-1339
Rep Sherrod Brown (OH-13) 328 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-3401, Fax: 202-225-2266 sherrod@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/sherrodbrown/
Rep Elizabeth Furse (OR-01) 316 Cannon House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-0855, Fax: 202-225-9497 furseor1@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/furse/
Rep Peter A. DeFazio (OR-04) 2134 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-6416, Fax: 202-225-0373 pdefazio@hr.house.gov http://www.house.gov/defazio/index.htm
Rep Chaka Fattah (PA-02) 1205 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4001, Fax: 202-225-3127 http://www.house.gov/fattah/
Rep William Coyne (PA-14) 2455 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2301, Fax: 202-225-1844
Rep Carlos A. Romero-Barcelo (PR-AL) 2443 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-2615, Fax: 202-225-2154 http://www.house.gov/romero-barcelo/
Rep Robert C. Scott (VA-03) 2464 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-8351, Fax: 202-225-8354 bvassar@mail.house.gov
Rep Bernard Sanders (VT-AL) 2202 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-4115, Fax: 202-225-6790 bsanders@hr.house.gov, http://www.house.gov/bernie/
Rep James A McDermott (WA-07) 2349 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 Phone: 202-225-3106, Fax: 202-225-2349



DSA Home Page dsa@dsausa.org

This site is located on the IGC server, with its Progressive Directory

Webmaster: criddiough@dsausa.org

This page: http://www.dsausa.org/pc/pc.members.html
Last Update: January 15, 1998

28 posted on 11/13/2002 1:55:49 PM PST by DeBug=int13
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To: DeBug=int13
 
 
A bit diff one from sometime in 1999.
 
There's a diff name or two on this one.
 
 
 
DSA Home Page | Resources & Links | House Progressive Caucus

Members of the Progressive Caucus

of the U.S. House of Representatives

Executive Commitee Staff Coordinator
Peter DeFazio, D-OR pdefazio@hr.house.gov
Ron Dellums, D-CA (DSA)
Lane Evans, D-IL
Major Owens, D-NY (DSA)
Bernie Sanders, I-VT bsanders@igc.apc.org
Nydia Velasquez, D-NY
Maxine Waters, D-CA
Bill Goold
202-225-4115
213 Cannon H.O.B.
Washington D.C.
20515
Members
Neil Abercrombie
Xavier Becerra
David Bonior
Carrie Meek
Jim McDermott
Cynthia McKinney
George Miller gmiller@hr.house.gov
Patsy Mink
Jerry Nadler
John Olver
Ed Pastor edpastor@hr.house.gov
Nancy Pelosi SFNANCY@hr.house.gov
Lynn Rivers
Bobby Scott
Pete Stark petemail@hr.house.gov
Louis Stokes
Bennie Thompson
Mel Watt melmail@hr.house.gov
Lynn Woolsey woolsey@hr.house.gov

DSA Home Page dsa@igc.org
Webmaster: j-hughes@uchicago.edu

This page: http://www.dsausa.org/rl/Dems/PCMembers.html

29 posted on 11/13/2002 2:33:31 PM PST by DeBug=int13
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To: MissHardihood
>>The web page for the Members of the Progressive Caucus is not completely off of the web.

Surprise surprise -- Cynthia McKinney and John Lewis on that list.


30 posted on 11/13/2002 2:46:22 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom
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To: OldCorps
What?????? A demorat tied to the socialists???? Oh my God. I am in shock. I can't continue the rest of the day functioning. This news is too overwhelming...
31 posted on 11/13/2002 2:54:25 PM PST by Nuke'm Glowing
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To: OldCorps
VRWC bump
32 posted on 11/13/2002 2:57:08 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: areafiftyone
Looks like ol' "Pinky" Pelosi has earned her nickname! BTW, great photo of "Pinky" in her pinko jacket!
33 posted on 11/13/2002 2:58:24 PM PST by Graewoulf
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To: spetznaz
Support Pelosi! Please stop bashing her. She's just what the 'Rats need.
34 posted on 11/13/2002 3:11:35 PM PST by StopGlobalWhining
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To: OldCorps
"The U.S. Constitution places no restrictions on political creeds.

Socialism is inherently unconstitutional.

35 posted on 11/13/2002 3:15:10 PM PST by ForOurFuture
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To: OldCorps
Many people around here are familiar with the American Conservative Union. They rank congressmen according to how they vote, 0 to 100, the higher, the better (from the standpoint of conservatives).

The average lifetime ranking off all congressmen is about 51. The average republican is 85. The average democrat is around 15. Al Gore, when he was, in the senate was probably around 12.

Nancy Pelosi is a 2.

36 posted on 11/13/2002 4:33:25 PM PST by fhayek
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To: OldCorps
It's too damn bad that the first women ever to run as house minority leader has her pantyhose all tied up in gloomy elitist socialism.

Is she going to be the socialist stepping stone for Mrs. Clinton's bid for first female president?

37 posted on 11/13/2002 6:24:46 PM PST by harpo11
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To: OldCorps
bttt
38 posted on 06/25/2003 8:05:48 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: OldCorps
Have forwarded this article to interested people.
39 posted on 11/12/2003 12:42:47 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: OldCorps

While many of us were aware of these connections to the DSA, a lot of the newer Freepers may not be, since the names of the members of the Progressive Caucus were removed from the list of members of the DSA on the official web site, along with the explanation of how the Progressive Caucus came into existence and the reason for the use of the term, "progressive".


40 posted on 06/16/2005 9:50:41 AM PDT by Eva
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To: spetznaz
Now it's 5 years later since your last post. If you're still alive I guess your eating the words of this post. She has become Madame Speaker. She's also 2nd in the line to succession of the Presidency. Hmmmm. I guess they did she did help the party huh? Enjoy the crow.
41 posted on 02/10/2007 10:59:40 PM PST by mdc76082 (5 years later and I wonder if spetznaz is eating the words)
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To: harpo11

Here it is 11 Feb 2007 and you don't even realize how factual your words in this posting are. It's like traveling in time. You are so right.


42 posted on 02/11/2007 12:27:57 AM PST by mdc76082 (5 years later and I wonder if spetznaz is eating the words)
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To: mdc76082
I'm still alive and kicking, and with a strong enough appetite to eat, swallow and digest crow. Grilled crow, roasted crow, raw crow .....I'm game. It is actually quite funny how words uttered long ago can come back and hit someone, and I am man enough not only to accept that I made a boo-boo but also to find the humor in all of this.

Let me just put it this way ....when i posted that in 2002 I really did not see Pelosi as having a Garter snake's chance at a Pentecostal Revival function, but time has indeed proved me wrong. Pelosi is not only Speaker, but the Democrats have taken over the House and the Senate. If you dredge around FreeRepublic you'll even find some posts I made where I said Hillary's chances of winning the White House were not just improbable but UTTERLY impossible.

Nowadays I have strong (frightful) doubts about that statement, and if you gave me enough alcohol I might even let lose a statement alluding to the fact that she may very well be the most likely presidential winner amongst the people who have thrown in their hats as of now (from both sides).

One year ago (let alone 2002) I would never even have thought of such a thing.

Anyways, I will eat my crow, and I will chew it fine. Although I am taking this as a lesson - a lesson that a LOT can change in a few short years, and a lesson that even pigs can fly with the dexterity of a Swallow and the speed of a Peregrine! A lesson that nothing really is impossible. And a lesson that Hillary may actually become president of these United States of America.

Which is why I am grateful that you reminded me of that post i made in 2002. It is actually a veritable lesson in the ways of the world, if ever there was one.

And it is also a warning. That unless the Republican Party gets its game right, unless it stops being pulled either to the side of the Rinos or the side of the so called 'perfectionists' who have to have EVERY agenda met or they will not vote (personally I find such perfectionists worse than the Rinos), and unless The Party gets back to its conservative roots (and I mean fiscal, not just social while they spend like money was going out of fashion) ....unless that happens, then this country will have Hillary as president. And the thing is, we will probably deserve it. After all, if after several years of a Republican White House, a Republican Senate, and a Republican House, we were only left with a fat bill, then something is wrong.

Now, let me go feast on my crow. I'm kind of ravenous as it is.

43 posted on 02/11/2007 3:38:25 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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