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CARR BROTHERS SENTENCED TO DEATH-Judge Will Give out Punishment for Additional Charges Tomorrow
Wichita Eagle ^ | Nov. 14, 2002 | Eagle Staff

Posted on 11/14/2002 4:40:36 PM PST by ewing

Reginald and Johnathan Carr were both sentenced to death for four murders in Wichita in December 200.

The jury in the Carr capital murder trial, which last week convicted the two men of the murders and a long list of other crimes agreed that both men should be executed for the capital murders.

The two will be sentenced by Judge Paul Clark tomorrow on the remaining charges.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: carr; carrbrothers; deathpenalty; kansas; massacre; wichita; wichitahorror; wichitamassacre
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To: anniegetyourgun
We can't put them six feet under fast enough as far as I'm concerned.

Previous Kansans have agreed with you. Kansas has had more lynchings and *nonjudicial hangings* than lawful executions. Over two hundred lynchings have taken place there, about half during Kansas' first 15 years [opened up for settlement in 1854.] About 90 persons were legally hanged between 1970 and 1932.

My former editor, a Kansas native [and newspaper publisher returned to his Sunflower state home to continue his trade in the newspaper publishing racket] was quite proud of that little facet of his state's history. When I received a major press association award named for a western newspaperman who later became a Montana hangman, he was downright envious.

-archy-/-

41 posted on 11/14/2002 6:15:51 PM PST by archy
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To: archy
Fascinating bit of history!
42 posted on 11/14/2002 6:21:48 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: BJClinton
Jurors recommended the death penalty Thursday for two brothers convicted of shooting five people on a snow-covered soccer field......

were forced to engage in sex acts with each other before they were shot. The women also were raped.....

Leave it to the AP to sanitize this horrible crime. As I understand it, they raped the men and women, repeatedly and brutally. They used their guns to sodomize all of them. They forced them to sodomize each other. They made them to withdraw cash from ATMs. They were dragged out naked and shot execution style. They then ran over their bodies with a truck.

I dont care if AP didnt publish this story... their version of the facts is too watered down.

43 posted on 11/14/2002 6:23:45 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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To: KS Flyover
The Carr brothers were given four counts of death each for the four counts of capital murder they were convicted of earlier this month.

Why don't they mention the fifth murder victim, the cellist, who was murdered several days before the murder of the four? Is this just sloppy reporting? Or did the jury just forget her?

44 posted on 11/14/2002 6:28:32 PM PST by jackbill
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To: freepy smurf
And don't forget Padilla!
45 posted on 11/14/2002 6:28:48 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: jackbill
I have found that many times in the case of a multiple murder trial, you leave out one of the victims in case something goes wrong in the case.
46 posted on 11/14/2002 6:30:00 PM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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To: ewing
"Any one of you can decide to save this young man's life," said Ron Evans, Jonathan Carr's attorney. "You can decide there is some good there. There is something worth saving."

Well, it looks like they decided. Can't say I disagree, either.

47 posted on 11/14/2002 6:30:53 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: KSApplePie_two
one of the family members said something like, how is that for a birthday gift, to Regianld, and he yelled back at them something the local media said they could not repeat on the air.

Roses are red...
Violets are blue...
FRY HIS A$$!
48 posted on 11/14/2002 6:32:52 PM PST by timpad
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To: I. Ben Hurt
They weren't convicted of capital murder for 1 of the counts, so the judge will decide the sentence for that crime. Here in Kansas the jury gives the sentence in death penalty cases.
49 posted on 11/14/2002 6:34:34 PM PST by KSApplePie_two
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To: KS Flyover
Well, KS, this day finally arrived. I'm confident the judge will make it official tomorrow. I wanted to say thanks to you for your work in keeping us all up to date on this trial. Job well done!
50 posted on 11/14/2002 6:36:12 PM PST by I. Ben Hurt
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I have found that many times in the case of a multiple murder trial, you leave out one of the victims in case something goes wrong in the case.

I understand what you are saying, but they were tried for killing the cellist and were found guilty. Once convicted, there is no rationalization for not imposing a sentence. What was the jury's recommendation for a sentence for that killing?

51 posted on 11/14/2002 6:41:28 PM PST by jackbill
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To: jackbill; I. Ben Hurt
"Why don't they mention the fifth murder victim, the cellist, who was murdered several days before the murder of the four? Is this just sloppy reporting? Or did the jury just forget her?"

The judge still has to sentence the Dodge City brothers on 85 other criminal counts, including one count of first degree murder, rape, robbery and other crimes.

The first degree murder verdict is for the fifth murder victim, who actually died in the hospital after the other four were killed. Her murder didn't fit the criteria for the death penalty.

The Murder Victims

52 posted on 11/14/2002 6:42:32 PM PST by KS Flyover
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To: KSApplePie_two
Thank you so much. Don't know how I missed that they were not convicted of capital murder for the first murder. I'll have to go back and re-read.

I've lived in Kansas a long time and live not far from where H.G. taught school. Hopefully she can put her life back together somewhat and go on, now that this is over.

53 posted on 11/14/2002 6:44:06 PM PST by I. Ben Hurt
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To: KS Flyover
Her murder didn't fit the criteria for the death penalty.

What, she wasn't dead enough?

54 posted on 11/14/2002 7:22:36 PM PST by Charles Henrickson
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To: ewing
This is a headline that Jay Leno is going to have to display on his show.
55 posted on 11/14/2002 7:28:26 PM PST by Erasmus
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To: KS Flyover; republicman; All
Hey KS!! have the perps been tried on the Ann Walenta case yet or is there more to come?
56 posted on 11/14/2002 7:29:11 PM PST by Rightly Biased
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To: KS Flyover
The first degree murder verdict is for the fifth murder victim, who actually died in the hospital after the other four were killed. Her murder didn't fit the criteria for the death penalty.

Thanks. It makes sense. They would not have qualified for the death penalty for the murder of Ms. Walenta here in Maryland.

Here, it's got to be multiple murders in the same "incident" or have some other aggravating circumstance, such as forceable rape, kidnapping, carjacking, etc.. That's why it was considered that John Muhammed (the sniper) couldn't get the death penalty here. The prosecutors would have had to prove that four deaths over a period of hours at different locations qualified as a "single incident". That's why the Atty. Gen. gave them over to Virginia, where they have a much more "inclusive" law.

57 posted on 11/14/2002 7:30:10 PM PST by jackbill
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To: KS Flyover
never mind (blush)
58 posted on 11/14/2002 7:33:47 PM PST by Rightly Biased
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To: KS Flyover
Thanks for the big news! I was pleasantly surprised.
59 posted on 11/14/2002 8:25:17 PM PST by mrustow
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To: BJClinton
Jay Greeno, the attorney for Reginald Carr, said his client was the product of an abusive household, and he urged jurors to think about the impact an execution would have on Carr's three young children.

This is a joke, right?

The brothers also were convicted of first-degree murder in the shooting death of a woman four days before that attack.

I hadn't known that. The brothers really outdid themselves, didn't they? And to think, they almost got a sentence that could have seen them paroled some day.

60 posted on 11/14/2002 8:35:24 PM PST by mrustow
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