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Comrade Bill Moyers's shady finances revealed on O'Reilly Factor
Fox News ^ | 11/14/02 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 11/14/2002 8:35:03 PM PST by Sparta

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the Back of the Book segment, the Bill Moyers empire. The liberal commentator works at PBS where his left-wing outlook has drawn some attention -- by us yesterday -- and Mr. Moyers is very, very well funded. He is paid $200,000 by The Florence & John Schuman Foundation. As the president, Moyers oversees $75 million in grant money. Much of it flows into some very interesting hands. In addition, Moyers has a production company that is paid by PBS, which, of course, gets taxpayer money.

Joining us now from Washington is a man who's been investigating Moyers and his money. Stephen Hayes is a staff writer at the conservative [magazine] The Weekly Standard.

We always like to tell everybody what -- you know, the publication -- which way they tilt just to be fair. But I want to talk money, not ideology. We took care of Moyers and the ideology last night. Seventy-five million dollars is a lot of jack to control. What's he doing with it?

STEPHEN HAYES, THE WEEKLY STANDARD: Well, he's doing -- he's doing a lot of things with it. I mean, one of them is he is giving a lot of money to left-wing organizations, campaign-finance organizations, media organizations, environmental groups that agitate for change, basically advocacy groups, in short, that agitate for change in public policy.

O'REILLY: All right, but it's all in the liberal realm. He doesn't kick...

HAYES: All of it.

O'REILLY: ... over any into other causes or other...

HAYES: Nothing.

O'REILLY: All right.

HAYES: He has a couple -- I -- you know, to be fair, he has a couple that could be probably qualified as centrist. He gives some to the Columbia Journalism Review.

O'REILLY: Well, I want to go -- I want to get to that in a moment. But he gives $2 million to his son, John Moyers, who runs tompaine.com...

HAYES: That's right.

O'REILLY: ... the far left Web site. So he gets $2 million from Daddy to put out his New York Times advertisements. People go, "Well, who pays for those?" Well, his father pays for it.

HAYES: Right.

O'REILLY: But, you know, this is America, and, if Bill Moyers can get a job that pays him $200,000 to give money to his liberal friends, more power to Bill Moyers. What a deal. However, then he goes on to PBS.

Now here we're into the taxpayer arena. Back to that. And he's an avowed -- avowed -- liberal, trying his best to, you know, get the propaganda out. And he's paid for by your money, my tax money, and everybody's tax money, correct?

HAYES: That's exactly right. Moyers would tell you that he doesn't have an agenda, which, I think, you know, is...

O'REILLY: Yes, it's ridiculous. It's absurd.

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HAYES: ... yesterday is absurd.

O'REILLY: Yes, it's absurd.

HAYES: Yes, he -- no, he spends our money. He -- like you said, it flows freely to Bill Moyers and through PBS, through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

O'REILLY: Now we couldn't find out how much he's making on his PBS program, which is not really a successful program, reaches, you know, maybe a million people a week, maybe a little bit more. Did you find out how much he's being paid?

HAYES: No, he would never -- PBS won't tell me. Moyers wouldn't disclose it. Moyers says he's a small, independent contractor, and he doesn't need to divulge these kinds of things to...

O'REILLY: But doesn't PBS has a fiduciary duty to break down where its money goes because there is some public money flowing into it?

HAYES: Well, it will break down -- PBS will give you breakdowns. I would say they're very complicated breakdowns that, you know, con -- I spent a month on the story and, at the end of the day, had to phone the PBS president to say, "How does this stuff work?" and she basically said to me...

O'REILLY: Yes. They're giving you the two-step.

HAYES: Yes. Well, she said, "Look," you know, "even I can't really tell you how it works."

O'REILLY: Yes, because Moyers doesn't get a check right from PBS. They pay his production company, right?

HAYES: Right, right. They pay his production company. He may take some profits from that. You know, like I said, it's just all this kind of murky, shady area. We just don't know.

O'REILLY: All right. So now Moyers is basically, then, making -- well, you've got to figure he's making a half-million bucks a year with the two -- with the foundation -- probably paying him about $300,000, $350,000 for the PBS show, and then his lecture fees. He's all over the place bashing me, getting paid money for doing that. So he's doing well for a socialist, right?

HAYES: Yes, he is, and let me -- let me make this one point to you. I thought we weren't getting into ideology. I'm happy to go there.

O'REILLY: Oh, it was a cheap shot. You know me.

HAYES: I'm happy to go there.

O'REILLY: Big mouth O'Reilly. Go ahead.

HAYES: No, here -- the one thing that we're not talking about that we should be talking about and it might be the most lucrative portion of the Moyers empire is the royalties he gets.

Basically, what happens in -- you know, to give you the thumbnail overview, is that Moyers will fund these left-wing groups. The left-wing groups will then promote Moyers' show. PBS and Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the taxpayers -- the United States taxpayers will air these programs, but then they don't retain the rights to the resale of these programs.

So you go on amazon.com or some such site, do a search for Bill Moyers, and you'll see 40 products. People can pay 30 bucks a pop for these Moyers' documentaries that PBS...

O'REILLY: And he gets it.

HAYES: ... that we have paid for.

O'REILLY: That's -- we -- wait. We fund -- let me just explain it.

HAYES: Exactly.

O'REILLY: We gave him the money, the taxpayer, to go out and shoot the documentaries, OK. Then they run on PBS one time, and then he sells them and gets all the money.

HAYES: That's exactly right.

O'REILLY: So we're funding his enterprise.

HAYES: Right.

O'REILLY: But it even gets worse. Bill Moyers got a Columbia DuPont Award, didn't he?

HAYES: He did.

O'REILLY: How much money did he give Columbia?

HAYES: I don't know the exact figure, but, over the course of the past decade, it's been a lot of money. I mean, he gives some to "The Journalism Review," he gives some to the school, he gives...

O'REILLY: We think it -- we're looking at more than a million, I think.

HAYES: Yes. At least.

O'REILLY: All right. So he gets the Columbia DuPont Award, the biggest prestigious award and he's kicking money to Columbia. Ha-ha.

HAYES: Yes, it's -- it's pretty grim. I mean, the Columbia people I talked to said...

O'REILLY: I'll say. Oh, come on.

HAYES: ... said, "Hey, this isn't a big deal." But lawyers should certainly disclose that, huh?

O'REILLY: Of course, it's a big deal. Yes. I mean, look, it's rotten, rotten, rotten, rotten.

HAYES: It stinks. You're right.

O'REILLY: All right. Mr. Hayes, thank you very much. We appreciate it.

HAYES: Thank you, Bill.

O'REILLY: Bill Moyers is welcome on this program anytime. We'll give him plenty of time to set us straight.


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KEYWORDS: crook; drunk; fossil; moyers; moyerselitefacist; oreilly; pbs
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Get 'em Bill!!!
1 posted on 11/14/2002 8:35:03 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
How much is his liquor bill?
2 posted on 11/14/2002 8:38:43 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Please, please, please abolish PBS and the NEA. Thousands of years of culture did just fine before that monstrosity came along.
3 posted on 11/14/2002 8:41:38 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: All
I called O'Reilly a fascist on an another thread, because of his calls to repeal the Posse Comatatus Law. I'm willing to overlook it if he nails the fossilized bastard Moyers for fleecing the taxpayers.
4 posted on 11/14/2002 8:42:21 PM PST by Sparta
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To: WorkingClassFilth
I wish I could afford his liquor bill, I'm usually a few pints low.
5 posted on 11/14/2002 8:43:21 PM PST by Ford Fairlane
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To: Sparta
I love that smug liberal hypocrite Moyers getting his laundry aired out in public. Sounds like some con artists shell game and using taxpayer dollars. Figures, it's the Democrats way of doing business.
6 posted on 11/14/2002 8:43:34 PM PST by Reagan is King
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To: Sparta
Excellent!
Kudos to O'Reilly.
I don't care if Moyers is a pathetic, washed up old drunk - - money that is confiscated from me by the government is helping him fund his socialist, America-hating agenda. Bury the scumbag.

Matter of fact, bury PBS. When are the Republicans, who control everything now, going to get the spine to defund that disgusting waste of money?

7 posted on 11/14/2002 8:48:46 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
It doesn't look good. We now have a RINO in the fourth-highest position in the House.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/78932/posts
8 posted on 11/14/2002 8:51:55 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
wrong link

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/789324/posts

the correct link
9 posted on 11/14/2002 8:53:04 PM PST by Sparta
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Know what the outcome of the DUI trial was?
10 posted on 11/14/2002 8:55:37 PM PST by razorback-bert
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To: Nogbad
Bump
11 posted on 11/14/2002 8:57:11 PM PST by Nogbad
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To: Sparta
Great interview. Defund PBS.
12 posted on 11/14/2002 8:58:03 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: All
The fossil has turned down O'Reilly's invitation to step in the no spin zone. He's Skeeered!!
13 posted on 11/14/2002 8:59:55 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Lancey Howard
Never. They aren't even paying lip service to cutting the size of government any more. No more broken promises, because they won't make any. But it doesn't seem to bother the party faithful, who are busy waving their flags in joy at the prospect of the monstrous Homeland Security department.
14 posted on 11/14/2002 9:00:31 PM PST by bigunreal
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To: Tribune7
Time to bid the American branch of Pravada farewell(PBS).
15 posted on 11/14/2002 9:01:03 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
Pubic intellectual bump.
16 posted on 11/14/2002 9:01:20 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Sparta
I really hate that sanctimonious gangster bastard, Moyers, who steals money from my paycheck to tell me why my politics are wrong.

The fact that he is rich on my dime proves exactly why my politics are right.

17 posted on 11/14/2002 9:02:16 PM PST by dead
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To: Tribune7
Add NPR to the defund list and you have a deal!!! There is no comparison to PBS/NPR and the decent BBC.
18 posted on 11/14/2002 9:04:31 PM PST by Sparta
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To: razorback-bert
I think he got a minor fine and community service out of the deal. Claimed he was fine and it was all bogus. Went from, I believe a 0.12 to a 0.079 ninety minutes after his arrest. 0.08 is the limit where he was pinched. Wanted to refuse blowing into the breathalyzer, couldn't perform under stress, I guess. Now if the cop had asked him to suck...
19 posted on 11/14/2002 9:05:04 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: tpaine; Texaggie79
But he gives $2 million to his son, John Moyers, who runs tompaine.com

hehehehe no surprise there.

20 posted on 11/14/2002 9:06:07 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Sparta
OK, NPR is added!
21 posted on 11/14/2002 9:07:45 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Sparta
Please correct my naivety (sp?)...

What is the Posse Comatatus Law and what is O'Reilly's view on it?
22 posted on 11/14/2002 9:08:17 PM PST by panther33
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To: panther33
O'Reilly has come out for changing the Posse Commatus Law. The law forbids the use of the military in a civilian law enforcement role,however the National Guard is excluded.
23 posted on 11/14/2002 9:10:59 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
Get 'em Bill!!!

Bump!!

24 posted on 11/14/2002 9:11:29 PM PST by panther33
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To: Sparta
why does he want to change it?
25 posted on 11/14/2002 9:14:10 PM PST by panther33
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
muheehaheehahee
26 posted on 11/14/2002 9:14:21 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: panther33
He feels the military needs to assist law enforcement in certain situations. I oppose it because it could to abuses of power by the Feds. (Let's debate this issue another time and trash the drunken fossil Moyers now.)
27 posted on 11/14/2002 9:17:02 PM PST by Sparta
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To: Sparta
There is no comparison to PBS/NPR and the decent BBC.

You must be joking. The BBC, especially BBC Radio, makes Rosa Luxemburg look like Maggy Thatcher. The BBC has always been a heavily-biased left-wing sanctimonious organ. They're far to the left of PBS and NPR. Scary.

28 posted on 11/14/2002 9:27:56 PM PST by andy_card
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To: Sparta
ok :-)
29 posted on 11/14/2002 9:30:30 PM PST by panther33
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To: Sparta
Congressional hearings on these financial dealings should be done next year. We didn't get the job done the last time we tried to defund PBS, because we didn't control the debate. Once taxpayers see how their money is being wasted, we can have the public on our side to cut the taxpayer funding.
30 posted on 11/14/2002 9:33:25 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Sparta
The rock has been lifted off of another liberal dirtbag. The news for the DemonRats just keeps getting worse.

I'll bet 3/4 of these commentators are financing Yasser Arafart.

31 posted on 11/14/2002 9:38:18 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: andy_card; Sparta
You must be joking. The BBC, especially BBC Radio, makes Rosa Luxemburg look like Maggy Thatcher.

I can't believe Sparta ever listens to the BBC.
I have listened regularly for 30 years.
As recently as 5 years ago I still thought them fairly impartial.
Now I don't listen any more for more than 5 minutes,
just to see what they are up to.

One small example: The BBC in their impartial reports frequently refers to 'the warmongers' in Bush's cabinet.

32 posted on 11/14/2002 9:51:25 PM PST by Nogbad
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To: Tribune7
"Defund PBS"

Excellent idea. In fact, the mantra of the incoming Congress should be a top to bottom review of how to "Defund the Left."

Democrats are already at a disadvantage because of the soft money ban, and they have more Senate seats to defend in the next two elections. Republicans can cement their majority by turning off the cash nozzle of taxpayer funds that wind up among the long and sundry "public policy groups" that are nothing more than fronts for leftist advocacy.

33 posted on 11/14/2002 9:55:06 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Sparta
Mr. Hayes said that Moyers finances many left-wing organizations. Sure wish we could get a list of who these groups are. I'll bet it would be damning.

Leni

34 posted on 11/14/2002 9:57:44 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Sparta
It would be very impressive if the congress and senate did away with all tax payer funded leftist organizations and entities. If their ideas are not valuable enough on the free market, then the trash bin of history is their just due.
35 posted on 11/14/2002 10:09:38 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Lancey Howard
If you are looking for a spine in the Pubbie camp you will be looking a long time.
36 posted on 11/14/2002 10:15:06 PM PST by willyone
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i get so torqued at o'reilly for some of his immature, to the point of being embarrassing, programs that i intend to watch no more...then he'll nail something like this...beautiful...love/hate i suppose
37 posted on 11/14/2002 10:50:08 PM PST by gPal
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To: Lancey Howard; Tribune7; Sparta; Vince Ferrer; Senator Goldwater
When are the Republicans, who control everything now, going to get the spine to defund that disgusting waste of money?

For those who want to defund PBS/NPR, as I do with every fiber in my body, click on my name. You'll see a list of 100+ Republicans who refused to reduce "Public Broadcasting" just 1%.

Don't give up! Just recognize that we have to educate 'em!

38 posted on 11/14/2002 11:19:09 PM PST by Drango
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To: Paul Atreides
Please, please, please abolish PBS

I don't care if it's abolished. I just want the taxpayer support to stop.

Let them get their money the old-fashioned way.

Get sponsors. (If they can.)

39 posted on 11/14/2002 11:27:10 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Drango
Well, surprise, surprise.... my liberal Congress-scumbag, Greenwood, voted "no". He's a RINO Democrat infil-traitor of the lowest form. The prospects of unloading him around here are not good, but fortunately he has reached the highest level he'll ever get to. Unfortunately, though he originally supported term limits and said he would only serve two or three (I forget) terms, he is a career parasite.
40 posted on 11/15/2002 1:05:10 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
TomPaine.com is a project of The Florence Fund, a 501.c.3 non-profit corporation based in Washington, D.C. We are funded by foundations and individual donors, and we take no corporate or union funding. Nor do we accept advertising -- that gives us editorial independence, and it gives you, our reader, freedom from annoying banner advertising. Our principal funding comes from the Florence and John Schumann Foundation, a major supporter of other independent media efforts, including National Public Radio, the Columbia Journalism Review, public TV's "Frontline" and "POV" documentary series, and The American Prospect magazine.

Well I guess that explains everything.
41 posted on 11/15/2002 2:17:29 AM PST by singletrack
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To: Sparta
This from Undue Influence

Then there's the Moyers hypocrisy.
For example:

Bill's
talk: "The single most important thing environmentalists can do to ensure America's national security is to fight to reduce our nation's dependence on oil, whether imported or domestic." Bill Moyers, EGA Keynote
Bill's walk:
The Schumann Foundation gets the money for its environmental grants in large part from investments in oil and gas companies, according to its most recent available tax returns:

Message? The single most important thing Bill Moyers can do is get rich from our nation's dependence on oil, whether imported or domestic.

42 posted on 11/15/2002 4:14:21 AM PST by madfly
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To: Sparta
Bill Moyers was the brainchild behind the most infamous negative campaign commercial in history. It was that 1964 campaign commercial for LBJ where a girl pulls the petals off a flower while counting. It then segues into a countdown and then a nuclear explosion with a voiceover by LBJ implying that Goldwater would drop the bomb if elected.
43 posted on 11/15/2002 4:32:13 AM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: Sparta
Name calling is counter productive and left wingish. Stick to the issues and agree or disagree according to your own views......but admit that they are just that, your OWN views.
44 posted on 11/15/2002 4:50:13 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: panther33
I for one, would not mind our US military on our borders......however, our poor troops are spread thin enough right now. It is time for some major rethinking about national security.

That moron Daschle saying yesterday, that this is not the time for a new organizing of homeland security just show how completely out of touch the dems are and just how much they hate this country and all it stands for.

45 posted on 11/15/2002 4:52:40 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: Drango
Damn! My congressman, Vitter, is on the list.
46 posted on 11/15/2002 4:52:53 AM PST by Sparta
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To: andy_card
Just think......for years and years England had only ONE TV station, the BBC.........and we wonder how the country became such a bunch of socialist wimps? It gives all the more credit to Maggie Thatcher, doesn't it.
47 posted on 11/15/2002 4:56:36 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: Sparta
Bump for later
48 posted on 11/15/2002 5:58:34 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Sparta
Bump
49 posted on 11/15/2002 6:06:34 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Drango
My rep, Olver is pro-PBS. Wotta surprise. Patrick Kennedy isn't my rep, but I can smell him from here........
50 posted on 11/15/2002 6:46:45 AM PST by SpinyNorman
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