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Saddam 'hiding the weapons in mosques'
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | November 17, 2002 | Philip Sherwell and David Wastell

Posted on 11/16/2002 5:32:45 PM PST by MadIvan

Saddam Hussein is hiding chemical and biological weapons supplies in mosques and hospitals in an effort to thwart the new United Nations inspection mission to Baghdad, Iraqi dissidents have revealed.

America says the Iraqi leader has also set up highly-trained "clean-up" squads at his most sensitive secret weapons sites to hide evidence and "sanitise" key facilities even as inspectors are on their way.

Saddam was completing his concealment strategy as French and Russian diplomats wrangled with their American and British counterparts at the UN in New York over the Security Council resolution backing the return of the weapons inspectors.

American intelligence has intensified its information-gathering campaign about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programme as Washington prepares to provide the inspectors with the data to counter Baghdad's concealment efforts.

In a significant breakthrough, the claims of Adnan al-Haideri, an Iraqi civil engineer who defected to America last year and revealed how Saddam was building underground vaults to hide chemical and biological weapons laboratories, have been backed up by US spy plane missions.

The aircraft are fitted with a device that detects underground voids - such as bunkers and tunnels - through variations in the earth's gravitational field. The device found a void where Mr al-Haideri said there was a subterranean nerve-agent laboratory.

Several scientists responsible for Iraq's WMD programme have been shifted out of the country on false passports already to prevent the inspectors questioning them, leading exiles have told The Telegraph.

In the past fortnight two scientists have been sent to Yemen, two elsewhere in the Middle East and one each to Romania, Malaysia and Singapore, according to the Iraqi National Accord (INA), an opposition group with good contacts within the regime.

Dr Ayad Alawi, the INA's leader, also disclosed that the regime was moving documents and materials from weapons laboratories and a ballistic-missile site into hospitals, schools and mosques in the northern cities of Mosul and Kirkuk.

The concealment operation is being co-ordinated by Brig Gen Walid al-Nasri, a trusted aide from Saddam's home region of Tikrit who reports directly to Qusay Hussein, the dictator's second son and head of his powerful State Security Organisation.

An official of the US Defence Intelligence Agency said: "They have trained large numbers of personnel in how to deal with an intrusive inspection regime."

These "clean-up" squads have developed methods for rapidly cleaning and sterilising equipment such as fermenters and centrifuges used to manufacture and store chemical and biological agents.

Iraq has also tried to "bury" small-scale weapons-making activity in larger-scale industrial sites.

British and American intelligence have developed a plan for the weapons inspectors that meets a timetable for attack early next year. They want them to look at about 1,000 sites. About 100 are considered certain to contain evidence of illegal activity.

In his first public comments since the UN resolution was passed, Saddam said yesterday that he had accepted the harsh terms to avert a US attack. After again insisting that Iraq was "devoid of weapons of mass destruction", he used typically vituperative language to denounce Israel, America and the "devils" that followed them.

The first test will come on December 8, the deadline set by UN Resolution 1441 for him to declare Iraq's stocks of biological and chemical agents, its nuclear-bomb programme and remaining ballistic missiles.

"If the Iraqis stick with a declaration of 'nil', then it's war," said Dr John Chipman, director of the International Institute of Strategic Studies, the London-based think-tank that produced a damning recent dossier on Iraq's weapons programme.

He said that Baghdad would most probably come up with a "middling" declaration.

America, backed by Britain, would argue at the Security Council that an incomplete December 8 declaration would put Baghdad in "material breach" of Resolution of 1441. France and Russia would in turn be expected to contend that the inspectors be given the chance to prove that Saddam was lying.

Despite the growing American military build-up, Pentagon planners would still prefer to launch a closely co-ordinated air and ground offensive after late December, when more than 200,000 US troops would be in the region.

The plan is that US intelligence will provide the UN inspectors with the "killer" data once America is ready for the military finale. The inspectors would then make unannounced spot checks while the US kept the sites under surveillance relayed live by unmanned spy drones.

Washington believes the Iraqis will be seen either trying to conceal weapons material or will be caught out. The UN Security Council will be allowed a short time to debate, but the Pentagon will already have launched the final, brief countdown to war.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: biological; chemical; saddam; toast; wmd
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This is a lot of trouble to get to a single point - Saddam Hussein should be killed. I suggest we do it immediately, and damn the UN.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 11/16/2002 5:32:45 PM PST by MadIvan
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Bump!
2 posted on 11/16/2002 5:32:59 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Boy that cyanide in the tube deal really did get you fired up didn't it!! Can't say I blame you and I agree, why are we going thru this damned charade. Lets just roll now.
3 posted on 11/16/2002 5:35:41 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: MadIvan
Sounds like the U.N Inspectors are about to get Saddamized...
4 posted on 11/16/2002 5:40:17 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: MadIvan
Bombs Away!
5 posted on 11/16/2002 5:41:50 PM PST by ewing
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To: MadIvan
Hiding weapons in mosques? STILL?? Geez, muslims are so well-known for it I'm surprised it isn't the first place anyone looks anymore. If I walked into a mosque and there weren't any weapons there... why... I'd think I was in a church or synagogue by mistake!
6 posted on 11/16/2002 5:43:30 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: MadIvan
Saddam 'hiding the weapons in mosques

Hmmmmm.... and what is the complaint here?

It sounds like we can use one bomb to take out two threats (weapons and mosques).

As a taxpayer, it sounds like we're getting a good deal.

All that is left to hope for is the mosque to be filled with satanic (islamic) worshippers, sniffing each others asses.

7 posted on 11/16/2002 5:45:47 PM PST by Mulder
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To: MadIvan
"The UN Security Council will be allowed a short time to debate, but the Pentagon will already have launched the final, brief countdown to war."

I would hope it is short, and that a "rolling start" would be under way, in parallel with their debate.
8 posted on 11/16/2002 5:47:03 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: MadIvan
Saddam Hussein is hiding chemical and biological weapons supplies in mosques and hospitals in an effort to thwart the new United Nations inspection mission to Baghdad, Iraqi dissidents have revealed.

Figures.

Search the mosques! And if they say no, that counts as an immediate breach!

Bombs away!

9 posted on 11/16/2002 5:48:11 PM PST by mhking
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To: MadIvan
If it is important to take Saddam out, then we ought to take him our right away and forget the "cover". Playing "nice diplomat" will only get a whole bunch of us good guys killed.

Waiting for proof that will hold up in the shady UN Court of Opinion won't satisfy the likes of the French, Chinese and Syrians anyway and is just a dangerous way to put us all at risk.

10 posted on 11/16/2002 5:48:33 PM PST by Gritty
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To: MadIvan
I agree. The UN is irrelevant and detrimental in this situation. It is time to announce their demise as a functional global entity. They cannot be allowed to hamper the coalition any longer.
11 posted on 11/16/2002 5:50:44 PM PST by Domestic Church
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To: MadIvan
Looks like they're running scared:

A senior Iraqi envoy has visited several Arab states to ask for asylum for key members of Saddam Hussein's regime in the event of its overthrow.

According to Western diplomatic sources, the envoy - General Ali Hasan al-Majid, known as 'Chemical Ali' to Iraqi Kurds for his role in the attack on Kurds at Halabja in 1988 - visited Algeria, Tunisia and Libya in September to sound out governments about asylum for senior Iraqi officials fleeing the collapse of the Ba'ath regime.

Other reports have suggested that members of the regime have recently been in Syria to organise an overland route for Saddam's family to flee in the event of a massive US-led attack. However, all reports suggest Saddam himself would remain behind.

Although it is possible the story is being circulated by Western intelligence agencies to undermine morale within the regime, it seems likely there is much truth in these accounts. full story, Guardian Unlimited Observer.

12 posted on 11/16/2002 5:51:06 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: A_perfect_lady
All too true, but it does leave saddam an out. The mosques are not government locations (he can say) so they do not have to allow inspections if the inmans choose to keep the UN out. It would be the same in our country, I don't think the government could legally force a property owner to open it's doors to a foreign power. Especially if it was in the best interest of the government not to that property inspected, so to speak.
13 posted on 11/16/2002 5:52:58 PM PST by Brad C.
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To: MadIvan
That's ironic. I'm pretty sure that we have plans to put some of our weapons in their mosques as well.
14 posted on 11/16/2002 5:53:27 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: MadIvan
according to the Iraqi National Accord (INA), an opposition group with good contacts within the regime.

Obviously not good enough, if INA's contacts haven't managed to bump Saddam off yet.

15 posted on 11/16/2002 5:54:46 PM PST by laurav
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To: muir_redwoods
LOL......I'd say the Mosques should be FIRST on the list, now.
16 posted on 11/16/2002 5:55:44 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: MadIvan
Good - hide them in mosques, hide them in hospitals, hide them in schools. That makes them legitimate targets.
17 posted on 11/16/2002 5:56:35 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: MadIvan
Inspections are stupid. Let's roll.
18 posted on 11/16/2002 5:58:28 PM PST by samtheman
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To: muir_redwoods
Best one I've read in weeks! ROFLMBO
19 posted on 11/16/2002 6:00:30 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MadIvan
I'm certain that a "mosque" or "presidential hovel" are programmable targets.

Smile - SaDAMN - you are on video.

Just curious, SaDAMN - how does it feel to be hunted?, to be a TARGET? How fast do those camels run?

Schmuck!

LVM

20 posted on 11/16/2002 6:01:36 PM PST by LasVegasMac
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