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Libertarianism III: It's All About Me and My Needs
Sand in the Gears ^ | 11/15/02 | Tony Woodlief

Posted on 11/17/2002 2:15:27 PM PST by hscott

In the last essay I argued that libertarians have the wrong approach to advancing their cause. I could have quoted libertarian godfather Murray Rothbard: "While Marxists devote about 90 percent of their energies to thinking about strategy and only 10 percent to their basic theories, for libertarians the reverse is true." Rothbard observed that the libertarian strategy amounts to an intellectually satisfying but strategically impotent method of talking at people. "Most classical liberal or laissez-faire activists have adopted, perhaps without much thoughtful consideration, a simple strategy that we may call 'educationism.' Roughly: We have arrived at the truth, but most people are still deluded believers in error; therefore, we must educate these people -- via lectures, discussions, books, pamphlets, newspapers, or whatever -- until they become converted to the correct point of view."

Libertarians not only suffer from a lack of strategy for winning, they have little to offer in the way of maintaining authority should they some day emerge victorious. This is important to consider because American liberty (and I am largely confining this to be an American question, though many of my comments apply to libertarians in other countries) has enemies both internal and external.

Start with external enemies -- the host of armed authoritarian states that would relish an opportunity to seize American wealth and liberty. There is no gentle way of saying this: libertarians sound like absolute fools when they talk about foreign policy. I have heard libertarian thinkers much smarter than me give brilliant, sophisticated, world-wise discourses on libertarian domestic policy, only to sound like naive sophomores when the talk turns to foreign affairs.

Libertarians like to pretend, for example, that the U.S. could have avoided World War II without consequence for liberty. At best they argue from historical accident rather than principal -- the claim that Hitler would have lost by virtue of his failure in Russia, for example, or that Britain could have survived without the American Lend-Lease program.

Likewise comes the libertarian claim that American adventures in the Cold War were misguided. In this they display an ugly penchant for concerning themselves with the liberties of white Americans, which explains the view of many that the U.S. Civil War represents the earliest great infringement on liberty (as if the liberty of slaves doesn't count in the balance).

These arguments against foreign intervention derive from the libertarian principle that coercion is wrong, which is really no fixed principle at all, because nearly all libertarians admit that a military financed through taxation is a necessity for the protection of liberty. Somewhere in their calculus, however, they conclude that this coercion shouldn't extend to financing the liberation of non-Americans. Perhaps this is principled, but it is certainly not the only viable alternative for a true lover of liberty. To tell people languishing in states like China and the former Soviet bloc that our commitment to liberty prevents us from opposing their masters is the height of churlishness and foolishness.

Perhaps the worst is the libertarian position on Israel, which amounts to a replay of Joe Kennedy's see-no-evil, hear-no-evil approach to Hitler in the 1930's. Sure, without American support every man, woman, and child among the Jews might have their throats slit by Muslim thugs, but it's not like they got that country fairly in the first place, and really, it's none of our business. That's not a caricature, by the way. At an event in Washington I heard a prominent libertarian argue that we shouldn't support Israel because what happens to them is their problem, not ours. And libertarians wonder why nobody takes their views on foreign policy seriously.

The libertarian response to this critique is to point out examples of failed U.S. intervention. Yes, the CIA sowed seeds of anti-Americanism in Iran by supporting the Shah. Admitted, we supported a tyrant in Haiti. True, we armed the mujahaddin in Afghanistan. But we also dealt the death blows to Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany, and accelerated the self-destruction of the Soviet Union while controlling its expansion. These are not trivial events in the history of liberty. Libertarian academics have developed a cottage industry, however, to produce counterfactual histories which amount to claiming that all of the good things would have happened anyway without American intervention, and probably would have happened faster.

Of course one can just as easily tell a story in which American isolationism leads to the emergence of totalitarian states that divide the rest of the world, restrict trade, and make all of us worse off. The point is that in the area of foreign policy libertarians are most likely to argue from principle, yet this is the area where consequentialism is most required. Nobody cares about principle if it leads to enslavement or death. When libertarians do argue from consequence, they have no experience or expertise to speak from, nor do they associate with people who do. Name the libertarian scholars with serious expertise in foreign or military affairs. Name the libertarian activists with considerable experience in foreign or military affairs. You get the point.

To be taken seriously as a philosophy of governance, libertarianism must grapple with foreign affairs, and with the possible reality that liberty depends on strong military power. Suggest this at a libertarian gathering, however, and you'll hear chuckles of derision. Perhaps they are right. The fact that they chuckle, however, but have yet to answer this question in a convincing manner, is evidence of the libertarian closemindedness on this issue.

But let's assume that most libertarians would support a military large enough to fend off foreign enemies. They would still have to confront the reality that they have no viable model of power maintenance against domestic enemies of liberty. To see what I mean, imagine that libertarians have nominated a slate of charismatic, well-funded, highly networked candidates (indulge me -- it's a Friday) who have won the Presidency and a solid majority of Congress. These revolutionaries proceed to create the libertarian wet dream -- drug legalization, plans for phasing out government schools and Social Security, isolationist foreign policy, no more ATF . . . and did I mention drug legalization?

In this fantasy the economy booms but foreign states are deterred by our minimal armed forces, people are happy, and sales of Atlas Shrugged go through the roof. It is the End of History.

Except, people get older. Memory fades. The Left remains committed to brainwashing children and co-opting public and private organizations. A child overdoses on heroin. Drugs are slowly re-criminalized. Some idiot old babyboomers (sorry for the triple redundancy) starve to death because they could never be bothered to save for old age. Others lose their savings when they invest them all in Bill Clinton Enterprises. Hello Social Security and financial regulation. The schools stay private because the Left realizes how much easier it is to peddle garbage by McDonaldizing it (i.e., by becoming the low-cost provider and pandering to human weakness).

So, in a generation or less, the revolution is slowly dismantled, and libertarians are blamed for the ills of society. They go back to holding their convention in a Motel Six in Las Vegas, and cheering when their candidate for Sonoma County Commissioner comes in a close third in a three-man race.

The Left doesn't face this problem. Deprived of principle, integrity, or honor, they are happy to snip the bottom rungs as they climb the ladder of power. You can already see this in Europe, where EU thugs are slowly transferring decision-making authority from quasi-democratic legislatures to unelected Brussels technocrats. We saw a hint of it in the U.S., when supposed children of the free-thinking sixties proved strikingly willing to use the power of the federal government to punish and stifle opposition.

But libertarians are all about individual liberty. Thus they face a quandary: How to maintain their state once it's built? This question should be especially pressing, insofar as their model implies that government tends to grow and become oppressive.

There appear to be two avenues open: the first is to adopt a variant of the Left's strategy, and eliminate unfavored options for future generations. Libertarians might, for example, replace the Constitution with a mirror document that does not contain any provision for amendment. This would leave the states open to adopt all manner of idiocy, however. Perhaps libertarians at the state level could adopt similarly permanent protections of individual rights as well. Thus libertarians could effectively ban most opposition parties, without suffering the guilt that Third World dictators endure when they do so more directly. I'm not sure if this would be acceptable in the libertarian paradigm. No matter, however, for the point is that they don't discuss it.

The second avenue for maintaining the libertarian state is culture. If children and new citizens are thoroughly educated in logic, economics, and other foundations of libertarian thinking, then perhaps they can be trusted to maintain liberty even in the face of very persuasive demagogues. But then certain topics become central: childrearing, childhood education, individual self-censorship and discipline, community norms, and reciprocal obligations. It would also require a consideration of the place religion plays in all of the aforementioned. Nearly all of these topics, however, are ignored by individualist libertarians, who furthermore routinely deride -- almost as a condition for membership -- those who call for their rigorous pursuit either as policy or personal practice.

Libertarians have less that's interesting to say about childhood education, for example, than does the Democratic Leadership Council. But childhood education is probably the linchpin of the libertarian society. How many libertarians, however, give much thought to where even their own children will go to school? Sure, they want safety and effectiveness, like any other parent, but how many give serious attention to finding or building schools that inculcate in children the ability to think critically, along with a sense of moral responsibility? Precious few.

If libertarians were serious about taking and maintaining power -- truly serious -- then they would drop the caterwauling over drug criminalization and focus every drop of energy on building schools. The latter is hard work, however, and forces consideration of messy things like moral instruction, and self-discipline, and what makes for good parenting. It's far easier to toke up in the discounted hotel room at the Libertarian Party Convention and rail against the DEA. Thus libertarianism remains less a force for change than a tool for self-expression.

This is in part a product of the natural individualistic nature of libertarianism. The solution isn't to eliminate -- or even drastically reduce -- the individualism that underlies libertarian philosophy, but it does require reconciliation with the social nature of human beings. It also requires acceptance of the fact that people are not only communal in nature, but spiritual. I will address this in my next essay.


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KEYWORDS: ccrm; foreignpolicy; libertarianism
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To: Eagle Eye
Hey I'd have to agree with everything you say. Except I worry about those who "lack internal controls" as you put it.

Example - a weak-willed individual who will, if drugs are legal, become addicted. That is he needs the force of law to keep things in line. That doesn't impress me much. If you are determined to self-destruct no amount of laws will save you. And regarding drugs, there are many treatment programs available. All our addict would have to do is to check in to one of them.

Bottom line is that people very often depend on govt to do what they should do themselves or could do with assistance from civil society.

121 posted on 11/18/2002 10:20:40 AM PST by hscott
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To: hscott
Bottom line is that people very often depend on govt to do what they should do themselves or could do with assistance from civil society.

One step further, if you will: many of those people to whom you refer also want to place everyone else under increasingly tighter government control. They can't handle their freedoms and don't believe that others can either.

122 posted on 11/18/2002 10:28:29 AM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Action-America
Wow - very impressive post!

You state that the author fails to consider the positive side of libertarianism. Well, of course, he was criticizing foreign policy mainly. He probably agrees (I don't really know) with many libertarian positions. For myself, the foreign policy is the issue. I still do agree with most domestic positions of the LP.

Although they make several mistakes IMHO.

They are way too idealistic. If you say its my way or the highway you will probably end up on the highway. In politics, compromise is essential. Libs seems to think it is a mortal sin. Contrast to Bush. He has taken several positions with which I disagee (steel tariffs, education bill) but he is a master of working the system. So you don't get all you want right away. "The perfect is the enemy of the good" and libs are in denial of this.

As far as your discussion of Lincoln I agree 110%. (Of course I AM a Southerner) Lincoln is surely not my hero.

Finally you praise the Libs for standing by original intent and trash the Pubbies for all these horrible violations of our civil liberties.

To me it is a thorny question. What if our security depends on abriging our liberties to some extent. Which side do you choose? I think that you have to err on the side of security. So acts like the Patriot Act have to be justified on the grounds that it will really help security (I'm not sure it is justified). But its not helpful to take the purist attitude that no infringment of liberty however small can be tolerated. Would you rather be dead than even slightly unfree?

123 posted on 11/18/2002 10:36:26 AM PST by hscott
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To: hscott
Likewise comes the libertarian claim that American adventures in the Cold War were misguided. In this they display an ugly penchant for concerning themselves with the liberties of white Americans

This fellow is about as honest as a New York minute is long.

The Constitution was never intended for "white Americans" and the limits it places on American adventurism abroad are designed to protect all Americans from wars provoked by faulty behavior by their representatives.

Dred Scott was bad law.

WWI and the resulting Treaty of Versailles and acts of naked aggression by the French were arguably what caused Hitler's rise.

The war against Japan was demonstrably provoked by acts of war committed by the US against Japan.

These hit pieces are proof that the establishment is worried about the affects of the LP on politics as we know it. Contrary to those who claim that the LP only receives 1% of the vote, in many cases this past election Libertarians received unprecedented numbers (even up to 25% in some congressional races).

It's working and as a libertarian, I haven't got alot of complaints about our progress. We have over 300 elected libertarians in public office both partisan and non-partisan positions.

We've fielded the most candidates nation-wide of any third-party in existence.

If there is a complaint I have it is that the behavior of libertarians in office is not widely disseminated. The important data for anyone deciding on which candidate to vote for is: "What have these people accomplished once elected?"

With the republicans and democrats, we already have our answer. Both have yielded enormous growth in the governments they control.

When Reagan was elected, the federal budget was 600 billion. When he left office it was approaching 2 trillion.

124 posted on 11/18/2002 10:42:56 AM PST by Demidog
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To: hscott
That's why I was stunned when libertarians attacked the US after 9/11.

Libertarians did not attack the US after 9/11.

125 posted on 11/18/2002 10:43:53 AM PST by Demidog
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To: hscott
To say that Libertarians are stoned all the time is just cheap invective. Whether they are stoned or not, you have to refute their arguments.

Whoa! Don't start talking crazy now . . .

126 posted on 11/18/2002 10:46:01 AM PST by realpatriot71
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To: TopQuark
To give an instance, they are very big on property rights but do not even bother to explicate who will enforce those rights.

What libertarians have you been talking to? The govenrment's sole responsibility is to protect the rights of its citizens. Thus the government would hav ea large role to play in protecting property rights (along with the citizens themselves who have the most interest in such property.)

Perhaps, rather than make sweeping generalizations, you could be more specific.

127 posted on 11/18/2002 10:46:30 AM PST by Demidog
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To: billybudd
Well, another problem with libertarians is that, ironically, they look to the government for solutions.

Nonsense.

128 posted on 11/18/2002 10:47:31 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Reagan Man
I do not support land grabs by the federal government and neither does President Bush.

LOL. When President Bush signs the CARA bill you will claim it is a good idea.

129 posted on 11/18/2002 10:52:17 AM PST by Demidog
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To: hscott
[quote]But you are glossing over the fact that many libs are members of the "hate America" crowd, just like Chomsky, et al. They fail to acknowledge that America, with all its faults is still the best country in the world and in fact the best country in human history.[/quote]

I think that there's a difference between "hating America" and hating the fact that our country has forsaken Constitution government to the degree that it has.

130 posted on 11/18/2002 10:53:48 AM PST by The Green Goblin
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To: Demidog
"The war against Japan was demonstrably provoked by acts of war committed by the US against Japan." Please elaborate - your statement is news to me.

"WWI and the resulting Treaty of Versailles and acts of naked aggression by the French were arguably what caused Hitler's rise." OK granted - I actually think also that Versailles was flawed. So a big mistake was made. Still Hitler did arise and we did have to defeat him. Or do you argue that we should not have entered WWII?

I think you are mistaken about the LP's success. The 1% referred to the Pres election (actually I think it was 1/2%) No one says that in certain more local elections the LP got a bigger percentage. For example in my state, Virginia, incumbent Senator Warner was unopposed by a Dem. So any anti-Warner votes went to the Lib candidate.

Finally about Reagan's swelling the budget. A lot of that increase was for defense. A lot more was Democrat spending that he could not prevent. OTOH his defense spending was a big factor in the fall of the Soviet Union. Money well spent, I'd say.

131 posted on 11/18/2002 10:55:21 AM PST by hscott
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To: Reagan Man
Many libertarians favor returning America to the days of 1790, when the vast majority of folks were uneducated, poor and didn't live past 40 years old.

How can anyone argue with you when you use blatant falsehoods to make your point? The literacy rate in 1790 in the America surpasses the literacy rates today in America.

Most highschool kids today, could barely read "Common Sense" by Thomas Paine much less comprehend it. At that time, it was the most widely read book and was in virtually every household in America. Grade schoolers were reading and understanding Common Sense.

Furthermore, the life expectancy claim you make is preposterous. Ben Franklin lived to be very old. Most of the founding fathers (those not killed during the war) lived to be old and wise. They were not far different than their countrymen.

132 posted on 11/18/2002 10:58:33 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Reagan Man
There is great compatibility between Reagan's views, and those of the disaffected Republicans who've gone Libertarian.

If the Republican party supported the values presented in REAGAN, IN HIS OWN HAND, there would be no "libertarian problem."

Some see libertarians as having left the party. But, ideologically, Republicans have left Reagan. They've apologized for and failed to defend Reagan's legacy.

Why should we reward their cowardice with our votes?
133 posted on 11/18/2002 11:03:45 AM PST by xdem
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To: hscott
Still Hitler did arise and we did have to defeat him.

Why? Why was it the US's responsibility to protect Europe?

As far as Japan goes, we imposed a blockade well before 12/07/41 That was an act of war. To pretend that they were attacking us unprovoked is either a lie or an opinion based on extreme ignorance.

Finally about Reagan's swelling the budget. A lot of that increase was for defense. A lot more was Democrat spending that he could not prevent.

Nonsense. The President can veto bills. Reagan didn't veto much and to get what he wanted he allowed the democrat congress to increase education and welfare spending by unprecedented amounts. No, the defense budget did not take up the bulk of the increases.

Bush has spent more in the last two years than Clinton did during his full two terms. Don't think this won't go un-noticed down the road. I predict that Bush will lose his re-election bid unless things change soon.

The mandate sent by voters? "Less taxes and less spending."

The republicans can refuse to see this mandate at their own peril in 2004.

134 posted on 11/18/2002 11:06:35 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
> As far as Japan goes, we imposed a blockade well before 12/07/41

A trade embargo is not a blockade.
135 posted on 11/18/2002 11:08:20 AM PST by xdem
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To: xdem
A trade embargo is not a blockade.

It is when you start sinking ships.

136 posted on 11/18/2002 11:12:01 AM PST by Demidog
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To: hscott
Reagan does not need apologists. He had the Senate and the White House and he still repealed 2/3s of his famed tax cut by 1984. The assassination attempt stole much of his passion and when domestic policy became frustrating, he turned to a yet to be invented Star Wars system to save us all from nuclear war. Then he signed a deal to reduce arms with the Soviet Union which is akin to signing a deal with Saddam back in those days--lesson learned neocons?

I think it a tease from the good Lord above that I never had a chance to vote for this man who took office with 3/4 of the globe ruled under Communist dictatorship, and left with Communism on the scrap heap of history.

But please, he does not need apologists.
137 posted on 11/18/2002 11:19:31 AM PST by JohnGalt
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To: Demidog
"Why? Why was it the US's responsibility to protect Europe?" (from Hitler)

First self-interest. The German and Japanese goal was to conquer everybody. If they had conquered Europe and the Far East would they have stopped. It is true that in 1941 the oceans posed a greater barrier than they do today. But I still think the US would have been at risk.

Second there is the factor of solidarity with other civilzed countries like England. Would you really have us stand by while England went down (as it nearly did)? I would not. I subscribe to the notion of avoiding foreign adventures but enough is enough. Hitler posed a great danger to free peoples around the world and to me that was perhaps America's finest hour.

As to Japan I'll have to confess ignorance and let you fight it out with others. I just don't know much about this.

About Reagan. His failure to exercise the veto was kind of a quid pro quo. That is Democrats I'll let you ram through your domestic spending if you'll give me a free hand with defense. A good bargain IMHO. I mean what is the monetary value of defeating the USSR? Almost incalculable I think.

I agree that I wish Bush would spend less. But you gotta do what you gotta do. The priority is to win the war wiith Islam not the budget.

138 posted on 11/18/2002 11:22:27 AM PST by hscott
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To: hscott
We do not have the responsibility to protect other countries from attack. It is folly to suppose that we could have destroyed Hitler's army in Europe but couldn't have defended our own borders.
139 posted on 11/18/2002 11:30:11 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
I didn't say that we had a responsibility exactly. What I meant was that, to uphold our values and to uphold the values of civilized people the world over, we acted appropriately to fight Hitler? (BTW are you a Buchanan fan? He argues like this too)

In Europe we had allies - actually the USSR carried the heaviest weight. If Hitler had conquered all these allies, we'd have had to face him alone.

140 posted on 11/18/2002 11:43:36 AM PST by hscott
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