Posted on 11/18/2002 7:33:17 AM PST by 2banana
Seriously, how many gay Eagle scouts can there be?
Perhaps this is the homosexual lawyer Tom Hanks played in the movie Philadelphia.
Yes, it does in context. The oath is clear in its intent and meaning. See above.
Because no number is given, I would say many = 2-3. If there had been just one then they could not honestly have said "many." If it was hundreds then I am sure we would have heard the real number.
I don't think it's hate. It wasn't hate that propelled James Dale, the gay scout who was expelled in Jersey and took his unsuccessful case to the SC. He honestly loved scouting.
It's liberals in their own way pressuring private organizations to conform to their worldview. The left would love to have a civic-minded group like the BSA within their camp.
Actually, the Stonewall riots in 1969 were in retaliation to the NYPD who were in the habit of flagrantly invading the Stonewall gay bar and carting all the patrons off to the pokey. A clear violation of basic civil rights.
I disagree. Mr. Dale cost the BSA millions of dollars in legal fees, damaged its reputation, was a poster child to liberal groups to pressure fund raising organizations (like the United Way) to stop donation to the BSA, ...
It sure doesn't sound like "love"...
It's because they aren't interested in tolerance or kids, they want to destroy an institution.
I don't think funding will be a problem for Scouting. As local "charities" pull their funding, people will bypass the charities and give directly to the Boy Scouts. I know I did this. The United way can pound sand. Cutting out the middleman means more cash for the local Scout councils.
We saw where attitudes like Larry's got homosexuals in the Catholic Church.
It's curious how the American Left Wing can have its cake and eat it, too. Homos in Church, "bad pedophile priests", homos in Boy Scouts, "good diverse scout leaders".
It's also not what happened here. What happened was that an adult who professed atheism after he had signed an application professing that he subscribed to the BSA's Declaration of Religious Principle was thrown out of the BSA, since he was a liar.
How is this possible if it is run by a bunch of right-wing, religious, homophobic idiots?
It's amazing. On the one hand, the author praises the organization and acknowledges the good it does in the lives of young men. On the other, he slaps the tag of intolerance on it. Seems to me that people who don't like the position of the B.S.A. should be trying to eliminate the organization altogether, on the grounds that any organization that advances such beliefs cannot possibly be shaping the lives of young people in a valuable way.
Or perhaps its just possible that the values taught by the Boy Scouts are one of the reasons it is such a valuable force in shaping the lives of young men. In which case, maybe its best to just leave it alone.
For the same reason animal rights groups demand veggie items on hamburger chains' menus instead of just starting their own veggie fast food chain -- because they know the public wouldn't go for it, and they would lose a bundle.
Not true. And, never has been. In fact, you don't even have to belong to a specific religion to get Eagle. All you have to do is acknowledge a higher power, one based purely on the spiritual plane. Whether it manifests itself in one, many, or no incarnate Gods is immaterial. As long as you acknowledge that humans must be ruled by more than human reason and emotion alone, and that duties thereby devolve upon you that you yourself can't reason away, you qualify.
Supreme Court decisions that don't go liberals' way are irrelevant. Roe v. Wade merely pointed out, and protected, for all time, a woman's sacred Constitutional right to an abortion. The Boy Scout decision was nothing but a politically-motivated assault on basic human rights by a bunch of Republican-appointed activist judges.
I know more than one. Think about a kid who's gay, and may not at the time even be dealing with it consciously himself. He doesn't date, because coming out is either more than he can handle, or (depending on where he lives) dangerous. So, he sublimates that energy into something else. What better than into making Eagle, and thus gaining the approbation of all?
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