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It's Official: Osama bin Laden is Alive
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Posted on 11/18/2002 8:41:02 AM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom

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To: ewing
I thought there were massive stop and restart breaks on the tapes? (a sure sign of fraud)

From the article posted at #31:

"The tape does not appear to have been altered or edited,..."

Like you I heard the *story* that there *might* be breaks. However, they were never referred to as "massive". It looks like that story was incorrect. You may wish to review what the sorce for that was.

41 posted on 11/18/2002 9:12:56 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: areafiftyone
(that's where the article came from)
42 posted on 11/18/2002 9:13:17 AM PST by glock rocks
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To: glock rocks
I believe he is alive and is living either in Iraq or Yemen.
43 posted on 11/18/2002 9:14:24 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: Austin Willard Wright
"Utopian crusade to abolish all evil in the world a la Kosovo."

Evil has become so active, lethal and such a threat to life, liberty, security, happiness and peace, around the globe, that the civilized world must wage a never ending crusade against it, for the sake of survival. The only alternative would be unthinkable-surrendering.

This is hardly a utopian crusade, in the mind of any rational and informed human being.
44 posted on 11/18/2002 9:15:33 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
bin Laden is dead! He was killed in Tora Bora. I don't mind, however, if the Arab, U.S. media and the White House want the world to think he's alive. As long as people THINK he's alive, it gives us more support to "disarm" Iraq (after all, if bin Laden was confirmed dead, the liberals would think we'd won the war on terror and that the war was over).
45 posted on 11/18/2002 9:16:02 AM PST by tuna_battle
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To: areafiftyone
So let's see if Rummy confirms this at the next Pentagon press briefing. Because, "unnamed sources" don't cut it. When Rummy was asked about this on VOA last week, he was quite skeptical. Let's see if he's changed his mind.
46 posted on 11/18/2002 9:16:11 AM PST by The Great Satan
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To: ewing
I still don't think it sounds like him.
47 posted on 11/18/2002 9:18:10 AM PST by SarahW
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To: Fzob
I have some old 8mm tapes of my grandfather. Does that mean he's is alive? This information does not mean he's alive. Call me a cynic but I still want to see him on video with todays NYT's in his hands.

LOL, you could really confuse the 'intelligence' community with that one.

And maybe the tapes aren't spliced... Bin Laden could have praised the Bali attacks (or others) before they were carried out. Heck, who knows how many taped messages there are of OBL praising attacks that were foiled.

I suppose he could be alive, but since that would be easy to prove (with a NYT in his hand), it's obvious that Al Qaida is just doing psyops. Hard to believe though, that the camera-lovin' OBL is able to restrain himself. An easy task if he's 6 feet under and pushing up poppies.

If he turns up alive he'll outdo Elvis. Nothing surprises me anymore.

"No, Elvis is not dead. He just went home." ~ Agent K

48 posted on 11/18/2002 9:21:27 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: The Great Satan
The US Intelligence community has concluded that Bin Laden's voice is in fact on a newly released tape.

Interesting way of putting it.

Yup. It does NOT mean he's alive.

49 posted on 11/18/2002 9:23:56 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: Maggie Hinnom
The real question is what happens when you play the tape backwards.

"Paul is dead."

50 posted on 11/18/2002 9:24:11 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: glock rocks
They are as certain as they can be that it is genuine, the intelligence official said.

Look for a white van and a lone disgruntled white guy to be the sniper in VA. /sarcasm

51 posted on 11/18/2002 9:24:12 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: The Great Satan
Last week they were still working on the tape to confirm that it was him. This seems to be different from all the other ones. Last time they were very quick to deny it wasn't him. This time they didn't deny it right away thats why I tend to believe it is him.
52 posted on 11/18/2002 9:25:57 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: Ipberg
What conclusion ? That its his voice, I agree. But their is not conclusion that he is alive. Its two separate conclusions.
53 posted on 11/18/2002 9:26:23 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Republic
These islamist generals are never in the line of fire or field of war. He's sheltered somewhere in Pakistan. He's safe and sound protected by the ISI.
54 posted on 11/18/2002 9:27:54 AM PST by USMMA_83
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To: cyncooper
From the article posted at #31: "The tape does not appear to have been altered or edited,..."

A final tape of an edited tape would not be altered or edited.

55 posted on 11/18/2002 9:30:19 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
I am keeping an open mind as to OBL, Alive or Dead.

I think it foolish for some to continue to state that he is dead, as a matter of fact, in the face of possible evidence that he is alive.

56 posted on 11/18/2002 9:34:46 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
He is indeed alive. Pictured below is Ole Sammy Been larden after he made these recent tapes:

Now we will kill all of his goat humpers in Yemen where he was last sighted, then he will go to Iraq, Iran and Syria so we can kill all of his goat humpers in those Islamofascist havens.

57 posted on 11/18/2002 9:35:20 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
SAS 'hunting Bin Laden in Yemen'

Al-Jazeera has run tapes allegedly from Bin Laden

British special forces are searching for Osama Bin Laden in Yemen, it is being reported.

According to the Sunday Telegraph, the focus of the international manhunt for the al-Qaeda leader has switched from Afghanistan to the Middle Eastern state in the past few weeks.

The newspaper quotes an unnamed American official who also said a "high ranking al-Qaeda official" had been arrested in the region.

In a separate development, the British Embassy in Yemen has been closed to the public following safety concerns.

The Foreign Office confirmed the Embassy was closed on Friday "due to a recent review of security arrangements."

But there were no details of any general or specific threat received by officials.

Embassy staff are still in Yemen but it is not clear if they are still working.

On Friday, British citizens living in Yemen were urged by the Foreign Office to leave due to a "heightened threat of terrorism" there.

That followed a Foreign Office warning a week ago against travelling in the area.

On Tuesday, an audiotape apparently carrying a message from Bin Laden was played on Arabic television station al-Jazeera.

Regrouping

In it, the speaker refers to the bombings in Bali and Yemen, shootings in Kuwait and the recent takeover of a Moscow theatre by Chechen rebels.

Officials in Washington who are analysing the tape said they believed it was Bin Laden's voice.

There has been intense speculation about Bin Laden's fate since the US launched a bombing campaign against al-Qaeda and the Taleban Government in Afghanistan at the end of 2001.

Yemen has been identified, the newspaper said, as an area where al-Qaeda is regrouping.

On 6 October, a French oil tanker was damaged by a bomb off the coast of Yemen, and a Bulgarian sailor killed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/world/2001/war_on_terror/

58 posted on 11/18/2002 9:40:09 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: Thinkin' Gal
I suppose he could be alive, but since that would be easy to prove (with a NYT in his hand), it's obvious that Al Qaida is just doing psyops.

I think it possible bin Laden is dead, too. However I am not willing to dismiss this audio tape--yet.

I do not think for one minute that a video tape of him holding a current NYT would quell theories that he is really dead. No, some would point out the wonders of modern computer technology. What it will take is DNA--from his corpse or, if he is alive, he is captured for all to see--and DNA tests then would be required by some as they would still doubt that it wasn't a surgically altered fake.

59 posted on 11/18/2002 9:44:38 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: js1138
I have been wondering if there were some way to verify it is Osama's voice. Here we have a guy that can afford the most expensive vidoe equiment in the world, yet he chooses to use inexpensive tape where his face does not show?

Methinks that this tape is not Osama's voice.

60 posted on 11/18/2002 9:45:10 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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