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Saddam already defying UN, says White House
TelegraphCo.U.K. ^ | 11/19/2002 | By Toby Harnden and Anton La Guardia

Posted on 11/18/2002 5:58:08 PM PST by ex-Texan

Saddam already defying UN, says White House

By Toby Harnden and Anton La Guardia

The White House last night began to build its case that Saddam Hussein was already defying the United Nations.

It said Iraq's repeated attempts to fire on American and British aircraft in the no-fly zones amounted to a "material breach" of the latest Security Council resolution.

But Britain has not echoed Washington's comments and officials in London privately expressed concern that America could seize on Iraq's behaviour in the no-fly zones as a possible casus belli.

Whitehall sources said key members of the Security Council disputed the legality of the no-fly zones, and Tony Blair would find it difficult to join a war justified only by Iraqi threats to Allied aircraft.

As an advance party of UN weapons inspectors landed in Baghdad, saying Iraq had a "new opportunity" to comply, Washington made plain the Bush administration's scepticism that the UN would be able to disarm Saddam.

The arrival in Baghdad of Hans Blix, the chief UN weapons inspector, and some 30 colleagues was greeted without fanfare at the White House, which remains focused on how to topple Saddam by March.

Instead, it opened a new front in the war of words against Baghdad, where state-controlled newspapers pledged that the government would co-operate "in order to expose the lies of US and British governments".

Allied aircraft yesterday dropped precision-guided bombs on Iraqi air defences in "self-defence". The White House has seized on the almost daily clashes as a sign of Baghdad's defiance.

Scott McClellan, the White House spokesman, said: "In the resolution it says Iraq shall not take or threaten hostile acts directed at any representative or personnel of any member state taking action to uphold any council resolution."

During a trip to Chile, Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, said: "I do find it unacceptable that Iraq fires. It is for the president of the United States and the UN Security Council to make judgments about their view of Iraq's behaviour over a period of time."

However, US officials indicated that America would not go back to the UN until further violations - such as impeding the work of the inspectors.

UN Security Council resolution 1441 threatens "serious consequences" if Iraq does not co-operate with a reinforced system of weapons inspections.

America and Britain say the no-fly zones are designed to protect Iraqi Kurds and Shi'ites, and were imposed to support UN resolution 688 telling Iraq to halt the repression of civilians. But Iraq maintains that they are illegal because they were not approved by the Security Council.

Mr Blix was cautiously upbeat yesterday and said he was "making progress" after initial talks with officials.

Stepping off a UN transport aircraft earlier, Mr Blix said: "We have come for one reason and that is because the world wants to have assurances that there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

"The situation is tense at the moment, but there is a new opportunity and we are here to provide inspection which is credible."

American misgivings about the mission were reinforced when Mohamed ElBaradei, the director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, said the team would need "six months to a year" before it could produce the results of its inspections.

Mr ElBaradei, who will lead inspections of suspected nuclear sites, called on the international community to "be patient".

Nearly three quarters of Americans now back war with Iraq and the Republican victory in the mid-term elections further strengthened the hand of those pushing for military action.

Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, and Donald Rumsfeld, Defence Secretary, are understood to believe that resolution 1441 has many drawbacks and presents a potential trap for Mr Bush.

They are confident, however, that the trap can be avoided and that a casus belli for war can be presented to the UN within weeks


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: naughtysaddam; saddaminbreach
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1 posted on 11/18/2002 5:58:08 PM PST by ex-Texan
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2 posted on 11/18/2002 6:06:03 PM PST by hole_n_one
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This whole thing stinks. Screw the UN. Put the screws to these terrorist, maniacal regimes. Do they go to the UN before they send their snakes off with bombs strapped to their bodies and stuffed in their cars? How many American's have to die at the hands of these despots and their terror minions before we handle this and be done with it??
3 posted on 11/18/2002 6:12:50 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: hole_n_one
I feel sorry for those 56k folks ......LOL!
4 posted on 11/18/2002 6:14:40 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: ex-Texan
Stepping off a UN transport aircraft earlier, Mr Blix said: "We have come for one reason and that is because the world wants to have assurances that there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

BZZZT!!! Um, no Hansie, sweetheart, that isn't what the whirled wants.

We want PROOF that there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Now get to work, goofball, or we won't bail your butt when the Sh*t hits the fan. You'll be "irrelevant."

5 posted on 11/18/2002 6:15:43 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: hole_n_one
Sources??? Names, please? My guess would be the anit-war group.
6 posted on 11/18/2002 6:17:27 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ex-Texan
only by Iraqi threats to Allied aircraft

ONLY?! Are they trying to say that it's okay to kill our pilots?!

7 posted on 11/18/2002 6:17:59 PM PST by kcvl
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To: ex-Texan
key members of the Security Council disputed the legality of the no-fly zones

Well, this is a fine time to bring that up, isn't it? Wonder why they never expressed this "concern" before.

8 posted on 11/18/2002 6:18:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Woodward is on LKL, now.
9 posted on 11/18/2002 6:19:26 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: ex-Texan
Boring, nothing is going to happen.

I take that back something will happen the federalis will tighten down the screws more on US citizens and allow the illegals to walk free.

10 posted on 11/18/2002 6:22:01 PM PST by dts32041
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To: cmsgop
I feel I'm quite judicias in my bandwidth usage.....

I refrained from posting an armada of 100 stealth bombers.

11 posted on 11/18/2002 6:23:49 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
That is really neat! Sure glad I am on a cable modem!
12 posted on 11/18/2002 6:24:32 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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ONLY?! Are they trying to say that it's okay to kill our pilots?!

Yes. This surprises you?

a.cricket

13 posted on 11/18/2002 6:24:43 PM PST by another cricket
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To: Howlin
LK just announced that Al Gore will be his guest tomorrow night.

I think that should warrant a live thread, don't you?

14 posted on 11/18/2002 6:29:40 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one
We'd be online all night, refuting the lies...........LOL!
15 posted on 11/18/2002 6:33:30 PM PST by Howlin
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To: hole_n_one
But, yes, just for laughs -- and high blood pressure -- we'll have one!
16 posted on 11/18/2002 6:33:53 PM PST by Howlin
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To: ex-Texan
Its already a done deal, if we want it to be. They are firing on our aircraft, even while pretending to accept the terms of the resolution.

Based on that, we should at the very least proceed to occupy the northern and southern no-fly zones. Tomorrow.
17 posted on 11/18/2002 6:34:26 PM PST by marron
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But, yes, just for laughs -- and high blood pressure -- we'll have one!

Woo Hoo!

Start working on those ping lists!

18 posted on 11/18/2002 6:37:39 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Howlin
LKL will have Tipper too!

It's gonna be a hoot!

19 posted on 11/18/2002 6:49:47 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: marron
>Send in the Marines...Hoo Ya!



20 posted on 11/18/2002 6:55:47 PM PST by Milwaukee_Guy
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